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p.1 #1 · Canon 100-400 II compared to Nikon 200-500


Since it is not possible to test both lenses on the same camera, the bodies used were the Canon 7D2 and the Nikon D5200. I do not test lenses at MFD shooting dollar bills. I simply test them handheld as I would do when shooting in the field.

I am making no conclusions and just offering these examples for anyone that may be interested. Don't like my testing methodology, do your own testing.

I would expect the 200-500 to perform better with both AF and IQ when used on the new D500 or even a later Nikon body that the D5200.

Cross-posted to both Canon & Nikon forums.

There are pros and cons for both lenses, and if you can't figure out what they are, then it doesn't matter.





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Feb 01, 2016 at 07:24 PM
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p.1 #2 · Canon 100-400 II compared to Nikon 200-500


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Feb 01, 2016 at 07:26 PM
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p.1 #3 · Canon 100-400 II compared to Nikon 200-500


Close enough to not really matter....

Looking at the crops, Canon looks better at 400mm (see the stitching on the green belt). They look about equal at 500/560.

I wouldn't be switching systems one way or the other. If I was to get a 200-500 I'd for sure be mounting that on a D500.

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Feb 01, 2016 at 07:38 PM
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p.1 #4 · Canon 100-400 II compared to Nikon 200-500


Two advantages of the Nikon are 500mm at f5.6 with no TC, and 700mm at f8 with a TC.

A disadvantage is no 100-200mm.



Feb 01, 2016 at 07:48 PM
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p.1 #5 · Canon 100-400 II compared to Nikon 200-500


Imagemaster wrote:
Two advantages of the Nikon are 500mm at f5.6 with no TC, and 700mm at f8 with a TC.

A disadvantage is no 100-200mm.


For sure....I'd take the Nikon's long end over the Canon's short end 95% of the time. Of course on my new 1DXII I'll have 61 points to use with the Canon at f/8....



Feb 01, 2016 at 07:51 PM
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I'm considering a D500 + either 200-500 or Sigma 150-600, so thanks for these shots as I wasn't sure how the 200-500 would stack up against the 100-400 II which is a superb lens. Looks pretty close certainly close enough not to really matter


Feb 01, 2016 at 08:17 PM
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p.1 #7 · Canon 100-400 II compared to Nikon 200-500


Tony,
It is interesting that you posted this just as I posted a comparison of the 200-500mm f5.6 to the 200-400mm f4. The 200-500 is can be handled fairly easily, this is in direct contrast to the 200-400mm lens. While the faster lens is sharper.. even with a 1.4x converter, it is not a night and day difference. My wife and I own both lenses, but the faster glass is a real pain when it comes to long hikes and international travel... I am now at a crossroads and unsure about whether I should sell my 200-400 and replace it with a second 200-500mm lens.

You can see my results and reason for taking on this rather tedious task on the Nikon board.
cheers,
bruce



Feb 01, 2016 at 08:33 PM
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OwlsEyes wrote:
Tony,
It is interesting that you posted this just as I posted a comparison of the 200-500mm f5.6 to the 200-400mm f4. The 200-500 is can be handled fairly easily, this is in direct contrast to the 200-400mm lens. While the faster lens is sharper.. even with a 1.4x converter, it is not a night and day difference. My wife and I own both lenses, but the faster glass is a real pain when it comes to long hikes and international travel... I am now at a crossroads and unsure about whether I should sell my 200-400 and replace it with
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I'd also be testing a Sigma 150-600C, mine is excellent and absolute bargain fro the quality for the results and 600mm walkabout lens is brilliant for birding.



Feb 01, 2016 at 08:43 PM
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p.1 #9 · Canon 100-400 II compared to Nikon 200-500


Thom Hogan has a good write up available for those interested in some more reading:

http://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/nikon-lens-reviews/nikon-200-500mm-f56-lens.html

Compared to the 80-400G he says "Here’s the thing: the 200-500mm is better optically in all respects from 200-400mm than the latest 80-400mm."



Feb 01, 2016 at 08:46 PM
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CanadaMark wrote:
Thom Hogan has a good write up available for those interested in some more reading:

http://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/nikon-lens-reviews/nikon-200-500mm-f56-lens.html

Compared to the 80-400G he says "Here’s the thing: the 200-500mm is better optically in all respects from 200-400mm than the latest 80-400mm."


Yes, Canon dominates the xx-400 IMO with IQ and probably AF speed.



Feb 01, 2016 at 09:00 PM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Yes, Canon dominates the xx-400 IMO with IQ and probably AF speed.


How did you get that from Thom's review? Haha. He doesn't even mention Canon.



Feb 01, 2016 at 09:03 PM
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CanadaMark wrote:
How did you get that from Thom's review? Haha. He doesn't even mention Canon.


I didn't get it from Thom's review, I got it from real world feedback over several years. The old Nikon 80-400 wasn't that good and the new one while better doesn't rise to the 100-400L II levels at all.



Feb 01, 2016 at 09:06 PM
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Thanks for doing this test. Were the shots taken with VR on or off? (So far I'm not able to determine a difference at higher SS shooting handheld with my copy.) Thanks again - Bill

Imagemaster wrote:
Since it is not possible to test both lenses on the same camera, the bodies used were the Canon 7D2 and the Nikon D5200. I do not test lenses at MFD shooting dollar bills. I simply test them handheld as I would do when shooting in the field.

I am making no conclusions and just offering these examples for anyone that may be interested. Don't like my testing methodology, do your own testing.

I would expect the 200-500 to perform better with both AF and IQ when used on the new D500 or even a later Nikon body that the D5200.

Cross-posted
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Feb 02, 2016 at 12:42 PM
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Birdbrooks wrote:
Thanks for doing this test. Were the shots taken with VR on or off? (So far I'm not able to determine a difference at higher SS shooting handheld with my copy.) Thanks again - Bill


You're welcome. VR on, not that it matters at those shutter speeds.

Tony



Feb 02, 2016 at 12:51 PM
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p.1 #15 · Canon 100-400 II compared to Nikon 200-500


Thanks for the test.
It's pretty clear to me that with today's gear if you have moderate skill and know your equipment you can get excellent photos with pretty much any brand out there.
Unless you have special needs or subjects, I find it hard to understand why people switch systems.

BTW I really like my 100-400II



Feb 02, 2016 at 01:14 PM
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How timely, I just yesterday tested a 200-500 on the d800e and my D7100, and compared to my 7DMKII and the 100-400 II and the 400 DO II with and without TE14.

Summary: sharpness about the same between the 200-500, 100-400 and the 400 DO II has a little bit finer detail and Bokeh. Outstanding sharpness on the 100-400 and 200-500, great value.

AF speed; the two Canon lenses are significantly faster then the 200-500, obviously the 400 DO II is the fastest. The 200-500 is to slow an AF for me, would work great for stationary objects but I would not want it for moving subject like birds.



Feb 02, 2016 at 02:12 PM
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andreasb wrote:
The 200-500 is to slow an AF for me, would work great for stationary objects but I would not want it for moving subject like birds.


Wonder if this would be different with a D500 or pro body?



Feb 02, 2016 at 02:22 PM
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p.1 #18 · Canon 100-400 II compared to Nikon 200-500


Thanks Tony for the comparison. The Canon 100-400mm IMO has always been a standard to which other lenses within it's range and price are compared to.

I see neither lens made that fellow look fat in those pants.

Gary



Feb 02, 2016 at 02:49 PM
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p.1 #19 · Canon 100-400 II compared to Nikon 200-500


Actually, the two lenses could both be tested on the same body. There are several Nikon-to-Canon adapters available. Expensive, and Nikon lenses are fully manual when used with them, but I've got one and it works great with every Nikon lens I've tried it with on my 1DIV, including a PC-Nikkor, Micro Nikkor and even the way-old PB-4 bellows.

But you can't mount a Canon lens on a Nikon body AFAIK. What makes the Nikon-on-Canon body possible is that Canon's mirror and sensor are farther back from the lens mount than Nikon gear, and Novoflex and others have taken advantage of it.



Feb 02, 2016 at 08:49 PM
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p.1 #20 · Canon 100-400 II compared to Nikon 200-500


Abbott Schindl wrote:
Actually, the two lenses could both be tested on the same body. There are several Nikon-to-Canon adapters available.


I don't really care, since I am not going to do it, and I'm sure Nikonians don't want a Nikon lens tested on a Canon body.



Feb 02, 2016 at 09:18 PM
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