Sony Smooth Reflection App
p.27 #1Sony Smooth Reflection App
Here is a stack with 1,033 images in sequences of: 129, 258, 516 and 1033
Not the best sample, sorry guys. No wind and very overcast day.
It would be nice to have a real landscape shot! :-)
Original RAW (ARW)
129 images (Mean Stack)
258 images (Mean Stack)
516 images (Mean Stack)
1033 images (Mean Stack)
Not the best sample, sorry guys. No wind and very overcast day.
It would be nice to have a real landscape shot! :-)
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1033 images (Mean Stack)
Apr 23, 2021 at 07:56 PM
p.27 #2Sony Smooth Reflection App
A couple comparisons from the ARW vs 516 stacked DNG: (100% mag)
haha, that's me on the ARW file! I let the camera running while I was watching my son play Roblox. ;-)))
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haha, that's me on the ARW file! I let the camera running while I was watching my son play Roblox. ;-)))
Apr 23, 2021 at 08:15 PM
p.27 #3Sony Smooth Reflection App
Fred Miranda wrote:
I used this and it's running now. (1500 images!!! ;-))
createStackedDngs('/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/RAWS', 'outputdir', '/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/Stacked' ,'partialstacks', '1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1', 'tempdir', '/Volumes/NVme')Thanks. My script scans the source directory and invokes the DNG converter with up to 32 files at a time, repeating that until all files are converted. It sounds like a process might be running on your system that's temporarily creating a file with that prepended period.All I know is that it has to do with the source DIR (SD card). Once I moved the ARWs to my desktop, it worked. It's odd because restarting the computer and removing / reinserting the SD card didn't do the trick. It would always give me the error even though the script was correct.
It's interesting that the resulting stacks are all 122.8 MB for me regardless of how many images were in the stack.
Here's what's causing the filenames with the prepended period on the media card:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/14980/why-are-dot-underscore-files-created-and-how-can-i-avoid-them
It's metadata that OSX is generating. Normally this metadata is stored in a hidden branch of the file inside the filesystem but since the media cards use FAT32/exFAT that mechanism doesn't exist so it's created as sidecar files instead.
snapsy wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
I've moved the RAW files from the card to my Desktop and it now works. Somehow it does not work all the time straight from the SD card.I used this and it's running now. (1500 images!!! ;-))
createStackedDngs('/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/RAWS', 'outputdir', '/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/Stacked' ,'partialstacks', '1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1', 'tempdir', '/Volumes/NVme')
It's interesting that the resulting stacks are all 122.8 MB for me regardless of how many images were in the stack.
Here's what's causing the filenames with the prepended period on the media card:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/14980/why-are-dot-underscore-files-created-and-how-can-i-avoid-them
It's metadata that OSX is generating. Normally this metadata is stored in a hidden branch of the file inside the filesystem but since the media cards use FAT32/exFAT that mechanism doesn't exist so it's created as sidecar files instead.
Apr 23, 2021 at 08:21 PM
p.27 #4Sony Smooth Reflection App
snapsy wrote:
I used this and it's running now. (1500 images!!! ;-))
createStackedDngs('/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/RAWS', 'outputdir', '/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/Stacked' ,'partialstacks', '1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1', 'tempdir', '/Volumes/NVme')Thanks. My script scans the source directory and invokes the DNG converter with up to 32 files at a time, repeating that until all files are converted. It sounds like a process might be running on your system that's temporarily creating a file with that prepended period.All I know is that it has to do with the source DIR (SD card). Once I moved the ARWs to my desktop, it worked. It's odd because restarting the computer and removing / reinserting the SD card didn't do the trick. It would always give me the error even though the script was correct.
It's interesting that the resulting stacks are all 122.8 MB for me regardless of how many images were in the stack.Here's what's causing the filenames with the prepended period on the media card:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/14980/why-are-dot-underscore-files-created-and-how-can-i-avoid-them
It's metadata that OSX is generating. Normally this metadata is stored in a hidden branch of the file inside the filesystem but since the media cards use FAT32/exFAT that mechanism doesn't exist so it's created as sidecar files instead.
As far as I can tell there is not way to avoid it. Only by deleting the files which we don't want...
Fred Miranda wrote
snapsy wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
I've moved the RAW files from the card to my Desktop and it now works. Somehow it does not work all the time straight from the SD card.I used this and it's running now. (1500 images!!! ;-))
createStackedDngs('/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/RAWS', 'outputdir', '/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/Stacked' ,'partialstacks', '1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1', 'tempdir', '/Volumes/NVme')
It's interesting that the resulting stacks are all 122.8 MB for me regardless of how many images were in the stack.
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/14980/why-are-dot-underscore-files-created-and-how-can-i-avoid-them
It's metadata that OSX is generating. Normally this metadata is stored in a hidden branch of the file inside the filesystem but since the media cards use FAT32/exFAT that mechanism doesn't exist so it's created as sidecar files instead.
As far as I can tell there is not way to avoid it. Only by deleting the files which we don't want...
Apr 23, 2021 at 08:25 PM
p.27 #5Sony Smooth Reflection App
Fred Miranda wrote:
I used this and it's running now. (1500 images!!! ;-))
createStackedDngs('/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/RAWS', 'outputdir', '/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/Stacked' ,'partialstacks', '1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1', 'tempdir', '/Volumes/NVme')Thanks. My script scans the source directory and invokes the DNG converter with up to 32 files at a time, repeating that until all files are converted. It sounds like a process might be running on your system that's temporarily creating a file with that prepended period.All I know is that it has to do with the source DIR (SD card). Once I moved the ARWs to my desktop, it worked. It's odd because restarting the computer and removing / reinserting the SD card didn't do the trick. It would always give me the error even though the script was correct.
It's interesting that the resulting stacks are all 122.8 MB for me regardless of how many images were in the stack.Here's what's causing the filenames with the prepended period on the media card:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/14980/why-are-dot-underscore-files-created-and-how-can-i-avoid-them
It's metadata that OSX is generating. Normally this metadata is stored in a hidden branch of the file inside the filesystem but since the media cards use FAT32/exFAT that mechanism doesn't exist so it's created as sidecar files instead.As far as I can tell there is not way to avoid it. Only by deleting the files which we don't want...
You can avoid it by copying the files to a native filesystem, ie not using the media cards as the source directory for the script. I'll probably also add logic to ignore files with leading periods since that isn't a common naming structure outside of for hidden files.
snapsy wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
snapsy wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
I've moved the RAW files from the card to my Desktop and it now works. Somehow it does not work all the time straight from the SD card.I used this and it's running now. (1500 images!!! ;-))
createStackedDngs('/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/RAWS', 'outputdir', '/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/Stacked' ,'partialstacks', '1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1', 'tempdir', '/Volumes/NVme')
It's interesting that the resulting stacks are all 122.8 MB for me regardless of how many images were in the stack.
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/14980/why-are-dot-underscore-files-created-and-how-can-i-avoid-them
It's metadata that OSX is generating. Normally this metadata is stored in a hidden branch of the file inside the filesystem but since the media cards use FAT32/exFAT that mechanism doesn't exist so it's created as sidecar files instead.
You can avoid it by copying the files to a native filesystem, ie not using the media cards as the source directory for the script. I'll probably also add logic to ignore files with leading periods since that isn't a common naming structure outside of for hidden files.
Apr 23, 2021 at 08:29 PM
p.27 #6Sony Smooth Reflection App
Fred Miranda wrote:
1) The resulting image is a 16-bit DNG instead of 8-bit.
2) 2 stops latitude for the highlights. I over exposed all 256 images 2-stops in order to get even better shadows (ETTR). If I would do this in Sony Smooth Reflections, all highlight data would be lost.
3) If there is a blurry image between the sequence, it's easy to remove that problem image in post. With Sony's SR, the resulting image would look softer.
4) It's possible to reduce the ND effect in post. Let's say you captured 256 images but the ND effect is too strong. In post, you have the option to average less images for less ND effect. (Like 32 or 64)
Overall higher IQ with Adam's tool and more flexibility.Updating with more advantages of doing the averaging in post (instead using the internal Smooth Reflections app -- only available for older Sony bodies now)
5) Option to use "uncompressed RAW"
6) Option to use "silent shutter". This was is a big one because it will save your mechanical shutter.
7) The in-camera intervalometer tells you the remaining time (With SR we had to guess this)
Found another advantage:
8) With the SR app, if foliage or anything moved during the captures, it would look blurry on the final DNG. (No way to edit it in post unless taking another shot without SR, which I usually did)
Now, it's easy to edit the blurred sections of our images by replacing those areas using the original RAW or a stack with less images (less blur)
Fred Miranda wrote
How is this better than Sony's Smooth Reflections app:1) The resulting image is a 16-bit DNG instead of 8-bit.
2) 2 stops latitude for the highlights. I over exposed all 256 images 2-stops in order to get even better shadows (ETTR). If I would do this in Sony Smooth Reflections, all highlight data would be lost.
3) If there is a blurry image between the sequence, it's easy to remove that problem image in post. With Sony's SR, the resulting image would look softer.
4) It's possible to reduce the ND effect in post. Let's say you captured 256 images but the ND effect is too strong. In post, you have the option to average less images for less ND effect. (Like 32 or 64)
Overall higher IQ with Adam's tool and more flexibility.
5) Option to use "uncompressed RAW"
6) Option to use "silent shutter". This was is a big one because it will save your mechanical shutter.
7) The in-camera intervalometer tells you the remaining time (With SR we had to guess this)
Found another advantage:
8) With the SR app, if foliage or anything moved during the captures, it would look blurry on the final DNG. (No way to edit it in post unless taking another shot without SR, which I usually did)
Now, it's easy to edit the blurred sections of our images by replacing those areas using the original RAW or a stack with less images (less blur)
Apr 23, 2021 at 08:32 PM
p.27 #7Sony Smooth Reflection App
snapsy wrote:
I used this and it's running now. (1500 images!!! ;-))
createStackedDngs('/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/RAWS', 'outputdir', '/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/Stacked' ,'partialstacks', '1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1', 'tempdir', '/Volumes/NVme')Thanks. My script scans the source directory and invokes the DNG converter with up to 32 files at a time, repeating that until all files are converted. It sounds like a process might be running on your system that's temporarily creating a file with that prepended period.All I know is that it has to do with the source DIR (SD card). Once I moved the ARWs to my desktop, it worked. It's odd because restarting the computer and removing / reinserting the SD card didn't do the trick. It would always give me the error even though the script was correct.
It's interesting that the resulting stacks are all 122.8 MB for me regardless of how many images were in the stack.Here's what's causing the filenames with the prepended period on the media card:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/14980/why-are-dot-underscore-files-created-and-how-can-i-avoid-them
It's metadata that OSX is generating. Normally this metadata is stored in a hidden branch of the file inside the filesystem but since the media cards use FAT32/exFAT that mechanism doesn't exist so it's created as sidecar files instead.As far as I can tell there is not way to avoid it. Only by deleting the files which we don't want...You can avoid it by copying the files to a native filesystem, ie not using the media cards as the source directory for the script. I'll probably also add logic to ignore files with leading periods since that isn't a common naming structure outside of for hidden files.
Yes, that's how I made it work. I moved the files from the SD card (formatted by Sony) to my Desktop. However, it's nice to run it from the SD card. (One less step)
Fred Miranda wrote
snapsy wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
snapsy wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
I've moved the RAW files from the card to my Desktop and it now works. Somehow it does not work all the time straight from the SD card.I used this and it's running now. (1500 images!!! ;-))
createStackedDngs('/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/RAWS', 'outputdir', '/Users/fredmiranda/Desktop/Stacked' ,'partialstacks', '1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1', 'tempdir', '/Volumes/NVme')
It's interesting that the resulting stacks are all 122.8 MB for me regardless of how many images were in the stack.
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/14980/why-are-dot-underscore-files-created-and-how-can-i-avoid-them
It's metadata that OSX is generating. Normally this metadata is stored in a hidden branch of the file inside the filesystem but since the media cards use FAT32/exFAT that mechanism doesn't exist so it's created as sidecar files instead.
Yes, that's how I made it work. I moved the files from the SD card (formatted by Sony) to my Desktop. However, it's nice to run it from the SD card. (One less step)
Apr 23, 2021 at 08:33 PM
p.27 #8Sony Smooth Reflection App
What is preventing Sony from giving the newest cameras a similar feature? This and focus stacking in camera would be so helpful.
May 16, 2021 at 08:21 PM
p.27 #9Sony Smooth Reflection App
I totally forgot about this. I purchased and used it on my a7. I wish they can bring it back for the newer cameras
May 17, 2021 at 02:11 PM
p.27 #10Sony Smooth Reflection App
Adam, is your script only for Mac? Or pc too? (Before I start diving in to get my head around it)
Thanks!
Thanks!
May 17, 2021 at 02:24 PM
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p.27 #11Sony Smooth Reflection App
xpfloyd wrote:
Adam, is your script only for Mac? Or pc too? (Before I start diving in to get my head around it)
Thanks!
It's both Windows and Mac
Adam, is your script only for Mac? Or pc too? (Before I start diving in to get my head around it)
Thanks!
It's both Windows and Mac
May 17, 2021 at 04:29 PM
p.27 #12Sony Smooth Reflection App
snapsy wrote:
Thanks!It's both Windows and Mac
I wanted to thank Adam for offering such an amazing tool!
xpfloyd wrote
Adam, is your script only for Mac? Or pc too? (Before I start diving in to get my head around it)Thanks!
I wanted to thank Adam for offering such an amazing tool!
May 17, 2021 at 04:42 PM
p.27 #13Sony Smooth Reflection App
+1 from me Adam, haven’t tried it yet as I said but been reading all the posts and it looks great. Going to set some time aside and dive in. I love night photography so most excited about the low light noise improvement possibilities
May 17, 2021 at 06:04 PM
p.27 #14Sony Smooth Reflection App
Has anyone tried Silkypix for stacking noise reduction RAWs?
I’ve been using Adam’s scrips which have been great, but I wonder if more options and refinements would be interesting.
I’ve been using Adam’s scrips which have been great, but I wonder if more options and refinements would be interesting.
Mar 17, 2022 at 05:21 AM
p.27 #15Sony Smooth Reflection App
Coming back to an old thread here. For the non tech savvy, like me, how do we go about using Adam's scripts and where do we find this? Thanks.
Dec 25, 2022 at 04:56 PM
p.27 #16Sony Smooth Reflection App
andyptak wrote:
Coming back to an old thread here. For the non tech savvy, like me, how do we go about using Adam's scripts and where do we find this? Thanks.
Here's a link with instructions on installation and use:
https://github.com/horshack-dpreview/OctaveRawTools#raw-image-stacker
Coming back to an old thread here. For the non tech savvy, like me, how do we go about using Adam's scripts and where do we find this? Thanks.
Here's a link with instructions on installation and use:
https://github.com/horshack-dpreview/OctaveRawTools#raw-image-stacker
Dec 25, 2022 at 05:00 PM
p.27 #18Sony Smooth Reflection App
After reviewing many of my landscape images created using the Smooth Reflections app, I decided to search for a used A7R II and recently purchased one. I ensured that the SR app was pre-loaded by the seller since it seems that Sony no longer allows new purchases of PlayMemories apps.
However, I didn't anticipate that this change had already taken place. When I navigate to the camera app menu and attempt to connect with the PlayMemories page to download more apps, the page cannot be found. It seems that Sony may have already discontinued this functionality. Can anyone confirm this?
However, I didn't anticipate that this change had already taken place. When I navigate to the camera app menu and attempt to connect with the PlayMemories page to download more apps, the page cannot be found. It seems that Sony may have already discontinued this functionality. Can anyone confirm this?
Jan 18, 2024 at 11:04 PM
p.27 #19Sony Smooth Reflection App
Sony has a page that says the following:
"Sales of paid PlayMemories™ Camera Apps for use with some digital imaging products will end on September 30, 2023. The download service for paid and free PlayMemories™ Camera Apps will end on August 31, 2025. Updates to existing apps have already ended."
https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00289030#
"Sales of paid PlayMemories™ Camera Apps for use with some digital imaging products will end on September 30, 2023. The download service for paid and free PlayMemories™ Camera Apps will end on August 31, 2025. Updates to existing apps have already ended."
https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00289030#
Jan 18, 2024 at 11:56 PM
p.27 #20Sony Smooth Reflection App
snapsy wrote:
Sony has a page that says the following:
"Sales of paid PlayMemories™ Camera Apps for use with some digital imaging products will end on September 30, 2023. The download service for paid and free PlayMemories™ Camera Apps will end on August 31, 2025. Updates to existing apps have already ended."
https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00289030#
Thanks for the info, Adam. If you bought a Playmemories app before, you can load it onto your camera until 2025. However, you can no longer add the app directly from the camera or purchase it for the first time. I just checked, and it seems you can still add apps from a computer to the camera.
Sony has a page that says the following:
"Sales of paid PlayMemories™ Camera Apps for use with some digital imaging products will end on September 30, 2023. The download service for paid and free PlayMemories™ Camera Apps will end on August 31, 2025. Updates to existing apps have already ended."
https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00289030#
Thanks for the info, Adam. If you bought a Playmemories app before, you can load it onto your camera until 2025. However, you can no longer add the app directly from the camera or purchase it for the first time. I just checked, and it seems you can still add apps from a computer to the camera.
Jan 19, 2024 at 09:39 AM