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Archive 2015 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF

  
 
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p.41 #1 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


On one hand, people paying top dollar for their gear, they deserve to have a performed to spec gear.

On the other, you want know your lens before use it wisely. For lens like Nikon 14-24, you really need sit down to test it before use it wisely. Internet wisdom is put it on f8 and just shooting, but that is simply won't work because of strong FC and focus shift without carefully testing.

And minor decenter will ruin a perfect night sky shot for people paying top dollar.

I agree many people doesn't understand what they are doing and could did testing wrong returning perfect copy. My experience is pretty solid so far with any new lens bought. I don't see much variation.

Sony camera is really make thing worse, first, you have very high density sensor, on the other hand, people use adapters all over the place with flange distance, mount surface tolerance, sensor stack difference. The lens no longer behave as it should be for their native system.

I did a test for Rokinion 14mm lens and also 14-24 on Sony, the FC characteristic change a lot. I don't even know it is from sensor stack thickness or from flange distance tolerance. Hence, I decide totally give up the adapt idea.

I also don't like the idea for sensor stack modification, this complicate thing even more. If I am in for Sony system, E mount all the way.



Dec 08, 2015 at 09:11 PM
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p.41 #2 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


This thread is about the RX1RII and today I have tested my second one. Both copies I tested are perfectly centered, sharp wide open, and have amazing flat field sharpness at around f/5.6 (infinity focused). That is 2 great copies out of 2 samples. Pretty tight tolerance...so, awesome job Sony!

Regarding testing your gear vs just taking photos: When testing your lens, you will learn a lot about it and that knowledge may help you in the field.

In my opinion, if you want to get serious about photography, you must do both well. You should know what to test for and see if the lens imperfections are acceptable to what you shoot. If high amounts of CA and distortion can be fixed in post-processing with acceptable results, that may not be an issue for you but if your lens sharpness falls of a cliff towards the edges due to astigmatism, it's nice to know what apertures to use for better corners. If you shoot astro, it's crucial to know how well your lens performs wide open towards the edges, so astrophotographers test for coma, astigmatism and sharpness on that area. It is more critical to have a centered lens and aligned sensor/mount for this application.
When shooting landscape, I know the best aperture settings for my FE 28/2 and try to use them whenever possible. They are not the same when comparing to my Loxia 50/2 or Sonnar 55/1.8 and so on...

It does not hurt to get to know our camera/lens in order to improve the quality of our images. My tests usually only take about 15 minutes and if I like what I see, I can save my notes and focus on what really matters. Taking pictures!



Dec 08, 2015 at 09:43 PM
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p.41 #3 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Fred Miranda wrote:
This thread is about the RX1RII and today I have tested my second one. Both copies I tested are perfectly centered, sharp wide open, and have amazing flat field sharpness at around f/5.6 (infinity focused). That is 2 great copies out of 2 samples. Pretty tight tolerance...so, awesome job Sony!


Dangit Fred, you and others are making it tough for me to be fiscally responsible! There's no way, shape or form I need this camera for my photographic endeavors, but man, how I do want it! :-)




Dec 08, 2015 at 10:29 PM
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p.41 #4 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Does anyone knows of any L-bracket that works with the RX1RII? I know the ones designed for the RX1R may fit but I have not seeing any confirmation of this.


Dec 09, 2015 at 02:13 AM
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p.41 #5 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


BTW: The original Sony LHP-1 Lens Hood for the RX1R II is now on sale at B&H Photo ($100 off)
The final price is $78

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/907015-REG/Sony_LHP_1_Lens_Hood.html



Dec 09, 2015 at 02:17 AM
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p.41 #6 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Fred Miranda wrote:
BTW: The original Sony LHP-1 Lens Hood for the RX1R II is now on sale at B&H Photo ($100 off)
The final price is $78

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/907015-REG/Sony_LHP_1_Lens_Hood.html


Great price! Did you order two?



Dec 09, 2015 at 05:56 AM
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p.41 #7 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Fred Miranda wrote:
Does anyone knows of any L-bracket that works with the RX1RII? I know the ones designed for the RX1R may fit but I have not seeing any confirmation of this.


Fred
I have a 3rd party L bracket and does not fit the tripod mount on the RX1R II is slightly moved also I have a JB wood grip and it will not fit

John



Dec 09, 2015 at 07:18 AM
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p.41 #8 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


After my ordering fiasco with Cameta, I placed an order last Monday with B&H with the order status stating expected availablity date being 12/8. Just got shipping confirmation and it should be in my hands tomorrow.

I have the OEM screen protector, the overpriced Sony thumb grip, the overpriced Sony lens hood, and the overpriced Sony leather case ready to go. Luckily I got a good deal on the lens hood and the thumb grip, otherwise accessories alone would've run me another $600.



Dec 09, 2015 at 08:22 AM
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p.41 #9 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


I wasn't about to spend $200 on a sony lens hood, so bought this.

Fits perfectly, and it's metal

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HWHEGPE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00



Dec 09, 2015 at 10:24 AM
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p.41 #10 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


fishjump wrote:
I wasn't about to spend $200 on a sony lens hood, so bought this.

Fits perfectly, and it's metal


Did you see my post? B&H Photo has a sale for the Sony original hood and its now only $78 ($100 off):
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1392390/40#13323400



Dec 09, 2015 at 10:40 AM
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p.41 #11 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Existing RX1 grips definitely do not fit. The tripod hole has moved slightly to the right. Fotodiox have said that they will be making a new grip but haven't put a time in it. Likewise Ulysses have said they will be making one of their cases with integral grip but havent got a camera yet to design it with


Dec 09, 2015 at 11:31 AM
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p.41 #12 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Surelythisnameisfree wrote:
Existing RX1 grips definitely do not fit. The tripod hole has moved slightly to the right. Fotodiox have said that they will be making a new grip but haven't put a time in it. Likewise Ulysses have said they will be making one of their cases with integral grip but havent got a camera yet to design it with


Thanks for the report.




Dec 09, 2015 at 12:42 PM
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p.41 #13 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


USD78 for a hood.... seriously? Just buy a step down ring and be done (as has been mentioned earlier by me and other RX1 users).


Dec 09, 2015 at 01:06 PM
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p.41 #14 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Jonas B wrote:
USD78 for a hood.... seriously? Just buy a step down ring and be done (as has been mentioned earlier by me and other RX1 users).


agreed, it works just as well as a hood (honestly neither it nor the hood really impact flare much) and is probably more protective. more importantly, it's lower profile and less likely to catch on stuff.




Dec 09, 2015 at 02:48 PM
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p.41 #15 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


I'm on a trip right now where I shoot my Rx1R a lot.
And I just realized how much I like it and how much it doesn't make sense to me to upgrade to v2.
I love new toys and usually get sucked into the hype of "must get it NOW" as much as many here on FM.
But at some point I must stop that madness.
My RX1R creates outstanding and beautiful photographs. I love shooting with it and use it more than anything else.
To upgrade I would need to spend at least $4K including some extras, like an L-plate which apparently doesn't work.
I would get maybe $1000 for my RX1R. For what? A slightly better resolution and the EVF I would probably never use.
For travel and landscape photography AF is plenty fast. And the special look of my pictures is so unique,
I'm almost worried to lose it with an upgrade.
Just thought I would share this when I see all those "I can't wait" and "take my money" posts...




Dec 09, 2015 at 03:11 PM
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p.41 #16 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


snowboarder wrote:
I'm on a trip right now where I shoot my Rx1R a lot.


I'm looking forward to seeing those photos soon!




Dec 09, 2015 at 03:13 PM
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p.41 #17 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


snowboarder wrote:
I'm on a trip right now where I shoot my Rx1R a lot.
And I just realized how much I like it and how much it doesn't make sense to me to upgrade to v2.
I love new toys and usually get sucked into the hype of "must get it NOW" as much as many here on FM.
But at some point I must stop that madness.
My RX1R creates outstanding and beautiful photographs. I love shooting with it and use it more than anything else.
To upgrade I would need to spend at least $4K including some extras, like an L-plate which apparently doesn't
...Show more

the tilt lcd, better and more portable evf, and possibly eye AF seem like they could all greatly increase the functionality of the camera for me. i'm not getting one for a while either though, it's not like either my rx1 classic or my a7 classic aren't working just fine for me currently.




Dec 09, 2015 at 03:27 PM
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p.41 #18 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Jeff Kott wrote:
I'm looking forward to seeing those photos soon!



Thanks Jeff, nothing special or groundbreaking, but there is always something "special"
in the simplest photos this camera takes. Like that one

http://lenticulartravel.com/BB_2015/DSC9755.jpg



Dec 09, 2015 at 03:35 PM
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p.41 #19 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Yes Fred I saw your post, but I had already purchased the fotodiox before the price drop.

Paul



Dec 09, 2015 at 05:55 PM
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p.41 #20 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


snowboarder wrote:
Thanks Jeff, nothing special or groundbreaking, but there is always something "special"
in the simplest photos this camera takes. Like that one



Yup, that's what I have noticed. Suddenly, every image seems interesting. I think this is called "pop factor", which for this camera/lens is off the charts.



Dec 09, 2015 at 06:23 PM
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