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naturephoto1 wrote:
Derek,

Thank you for the help and the information. Maybe I would need to carry a DOF page to provide an idea for a working estimate.

Rich


assuming your not in a hurry, i find the best way to do it with modern cameras is to focus where i want maximum sharpness and then move the zoom box to the closest part of the image you want included in dof and just stop down until you see it reach acceptable sharpness in magnified live view. dof markings and tables all assume a specific print enlargement/viewing distance. with digital many find that those assumptions aren't correct for their pixel peeping/large printing needs (i've heard lots of people recommend stopping down one stop further than their on lens dof scale recommends).




Nov 02, 2015 at 02:13 PM
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sebboh wrote:
assuming your not in a hurry, i find the best way to do it with modern cameras is to focus where i want maximum sharpness and then move the zoom box to the closest part of the image you want included in dof and just stop down until you see it reach acceptable sharpness in magnified live view. dof markings and tables all assume a specific print enlargement/viewing distance. with digital many find that those assumptions aren't correct for their pixel peeping/large printing needs (i've heard lots of people recommend stopping down one stop further than their on lens dof
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Hi Derek,

Thanks. I would frequently set things on my Leica lenses, reset the focus point and then stop down one or possibly 2 stops from the setting to try to cover DOF. This of course is only an estimate but can be useful.

Rich



Nov 02, 2015 at 02:18 PM
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I like to make things easy; if I want subject isolation, I shoot wide open, focus on the subject and don't worry about the rest, if I want everything acceptably sharp, such as for a landscape, I focus on what I consider the most important feature and shoot at f8.

Certainly can get complicated when it's work like getting 3 subjects all in an acceptable DoF but also provide as much isolation as possible, but I find that stuff is few and far between for me and usually just shoot it at f4, and then a few frames at 5.6 and 8, just to cover my butt lol

I used to have a laser tape measure and all the tables on my phone so I could get it "right" but that proved so much effort for little actual return.
Maybe I could of gotten away with f5.6 and I shot at f8, oh well, not like a stop really matters like it used to now that we've got insane high isos etc



Nov 02, 2015 at 02:35 PM
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All points are true. The 35 FL does the job for 95% of my RX1 shooting, the WA adapter just fills in that rare 5%, when there is no other option. I never leave it on the camera as I walk around, it's "per shot" use to me. The bayonet mechanism makes quick attach/detach easy as well. Of all the WA adaptors I would select this for that reason alone. I'm also conscious about the weight so I always support the adaptor with the left hand. However, once on, the adaptor feels quite sturdy and secure.

Fred, the killer kit you
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Incredible samples. Thanks for sharing.
I have the FE 28/2 as well and was contemplating the WA adapter anyways. (Since I don't have the lox 21/2.8 yet and my other lens is the heavy Canon TS-E 17/4L)
I may try it out on the RX1RII. Thanks for your step by step instructions.



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sebboh wrote:
assuming your not in a hurry, i find the best way to do it with modern cameras is to focus where i want maximum sharpness and then move the zoom box to the closest part of the image you want included in dof and just stop down until you see it reach acceptable sharpness in magnified live view. dof markings and tables all assume a specific print enlargement/viewing distance. with digital many find that those assumptions aren't correct for their pixel peeping/large printing needs (i've heard lots of people recommend stopping down one stop further than their on lens dof
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Great tip. Thanks!




Nov 02, 2015 at 04:33 PM
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Incredible samples. Thanks for sharing.
I have the FE 28/2 as well and was contemplating the WA adapter anyways. (Since I don't have the lox 21/2.8 yet and my other lens is the heavy Canon TS-E 17/4L)
I may try it out on the RX1RII. Thanks for your step by step instructions.


The combo performs far better than it should for the price, and for being a conversion lens. Can't use filters of course which is a shame, but for the price its pretty good. AF is quick still, and the little magnet that lets the lens, and thus the camera, realize the correct EXIF is pretty brilliant.

I will say though that in the end, I went back to the 16-35 FE as its just easier to carry than the 28 plus the UWC combo (or the 28, UWC and VC15 trio I also used for a while). If you never really shoot wide the UWC is good bang for the buck, but if its a regular focal length something versatile (and that can allow filters) makes life a lot easier.

The 28/2 with UWC is about the size/weight of the 16-35 as well....

I briefly tried the Fisheye conversion lens for the 28/2 as well, just in case anyone was curious about that one, and it was honestly a "no go" for me after about 30 minutes. The fisheye is just massive, even compared to the UWC, and balances quite poorly, not to mention its not a true 180 FoV, but a rather annoying semi-fish look.

When you can get the excellent 12mm FE mount fisheye for $399 makes no real sense to spend $249 for a bloated FE conversion lens, in my opinion at least.



Nov 02, 2015 at 07:21 PM
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Pre-orders start 11/5. Has there been an announced ship date?


This might be a clue: Previously, B&H's web page for the Rx1rII showed "available for preorders" on Nov. 5. It now says "available for purchase" on Nov. 5.




Nov 03, 2015 at 04:16 AM
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Also B&H page shows: "Ship Time: Not available"

dandrewk wrote:
This might be a clue: Previously, B&H's web page for the Rx1rII showed "available for preorders" on Nov. 5. It now says "available for purchase" on Nov. 5.






Nov 03, 2015 at 07:08 AM
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I think a quick approximation would be taking the crop factor and getting the % of pixels on each axis.

So, something like:

Focal Length 35mm 50mm 70mm 85mm 100mm
Width (Pixels) 7952 5566 3976 3274 2783
Length(Pixels) 5304 3712 2652 2184 1856
Total Pixels 42,177,408 20,666,930 10,544,352 7,151,187 5,166,732
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Total MP 42MP 20MP 10MP 7MP 5MP





Nov 04, 2015 at 06:18 PM
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p.30 #10 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Are there any real samples from this camera yet?

(sorry, I can't look through 30 pgs right now.)



Nov 04, 2015 at 10:02 PM
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Very nice images Trijicon1. I'd say you had your sights dialed right in on that trip!


Nov 05, 2015 at 12:35 PM
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Very nice images Trijicon1. I'd say you had your sights dialed right in on that trip!


Thank you! The RX1 performed remarkably during the trip. From landscape, street, architecture, portrait, and macro. It did it all. Together with the Peak Design quick release, the camera was almost invisible.

Here is a compilation of my Europe Trip with just the RX1

Warsaw, Poland

Auschwitz Concentration Camp

Krakow, Poland

Prague, Czech Republic



Nov 05, 2015 at 01:00 PM
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p.30 #13 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Trijicon1 wrote:
Thank you! The RX1 performed remarkably during the trip. From landscape, street, architecture, portrait, and macro. It did it all. Together with the Peak Design quick release, the camera was almost invisible.

Here is a compilation of my Europe Trip with just the RX1

Warsaw, Poland

Auschwitz Concentration Camp

Krakow, Poland

Prague, Czech Republic


Thanks for sharing the link. I enjoyed the pictures.
Question: When using the WA adapter on the FE 28/2 or RX1, is the new focal length updated on the EXIF file?



Nov 05, 2015 at 06:26 PM
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a crappy snapshot with my Rx1.....

http://www.hepkitty.net/forum/m-239.jpg



Nov 05, 2015 at 08:53 PM
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Thanks for sharing the link. I enjoyed the pictures.
Question: When using the WA adapter on the FE 28/2 or RX1, is the new focal length updated on the EXIF file?



It does with the 28/2. There is a small magnetic type sensor in the lens that can detect when the UWA and FE conversion lenses are attached, thus yielding the correct EXIF values (and limiting the aperture to f2.8 and f3.5 respectively).

The RX1 on the other hand, designed well before the conversion lenses even existed, does not reflect the attachment in the EXIF data



Nov 05, 2015 at 09:10 PM
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p.30 #16 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


millsart wrote:
It does with the 28/2. There is a small magnetic type sensor in the lens that can detect when the UWA and FE conversion lenses are attached, thus yielding the correct EXIF values (and limiting the aperture to f2.8 and f3.5 respectively).

The RX1 on the other hand, designed well before the conversion lenses even existed, does not reflect the attachment in the EXIF data


Thanks for letting me know. It's a clever design.



Nov 05, 2015 at 10:24 PM
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Thanks for letting me know. It's a clever design.


Exactly as millsart said. If I stayed with the "spacer" modification method, the magnetic sensor would not work. One of the benefits of "shaving" down the lip instead. That, and the screws would probably have stripped.



Nov 05, 2015 at 11:33 PM
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This is an extraordinarily expensive camera that's capable of very little (granted, good optics and good sensor).


Nov 06, 2015 at 10:31 AM
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Depends how you look at it. For me it's a 35 awesome lens . My question to myself is I'll be going between 2 bodies on a gig. Will it work the way I want in tandem with my A7rII.

howard wrote:
This is an extraordinarily expensive camera that's capable of very little (granted, good optics and good sensor).




Nov 06, 2015 at 10:47 AM
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howard wrote:
This is an extraordinarily expensive camera that's capable of very little (granted, good optics and good sensor).


Elaborate on that please.



Nov 06, 2015 at 10:48 AM
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