p.29 #1 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
I have to say those comparisons haven't made my selection any easier. In any given set I'd favor one lens over the other. Pretty amazing results from the 35, 28 and the zoom!
p.29 #3 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
nehemiahphoto wrote:
I desperately wish Sony would make a wide angle adapter to 28mm that keeps the Sonnar's optical integrity, like Fuji did with the X100--it's just another area they could charge us for, and I don't think it would be cannabalizing.
p.29 #4 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
The RX1, or should I say Sony, flash implementation sadly isn't close to as polished as Fuji's with their leaf shutter equipped X100 series. The Fuji's work near flawless with providing just the right amount of fill flash for a seamless blend under most any lighting conditions.
That said, while the RX1 flash does take a bit more manual intervention, its still capable of great results under a wide range of lighting conditions due to the camera's use of a leaf shutter. Being able to shoot wide open in bright sunlight and still get a powerful fill from a tiny popup flash is something that seems akin to "magic" if your used to the limitations of pop-up flashes on cameras with focal plane shutters and the typical 1/160 to 1/250th max sync speeds. (won't even go into how useless my GM1 was with its 1/50th max sync speed lol). Work around was usually a bigger external speedlight with HSS, but that certainly is no free lunch either as you've got a huge flash in the hot shoe heavier than the camera.
The pop-up flash is just a very powerful tool that I for one would really miss...
On the upside, the RX1 mkII will still have a leaf shutter, and as such, when used with an external strobe, becomes an amazingly powerful tool.
I can't find any examples handy, but I've been amazed at how just a single speed light, synced at 1/1000th or faster (depending on speedlight duration) can overpower the sun and let me bring down the ambient 2 or 3 stops in broad daylight.
That gives me a look I haven't been able to reproduce since the days of my original Canon 1D, and/or back when I had a Speedotron Black line pack and head capable of putting out massive wattage to accommodate shooting at f16 or with ND's.
Combination of a leaf shutter and a FF 42meg sensor with a great 35mm lens really can make the RX1 line worth its weight in gold for on location portrait photographers as it lets you do things with lighting not easily possible with the typical DSLR or Mirrorless camera.
p.29 #5 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Fred Miranda wrote:
With only a few adjustments you are able to use Sony's new FE 28/2 WA converter (SEL075UWC) on your RX1.
See this thread: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1369103
Considering the Zeiss 35/2 is actually a 32mm, you will get 24mm when using this adapter.
Fred
Optically this combo worked pretty well when I tried it with mine, however, the 0.75 UWC, is pretty massive, and its a lot of weight to hang off the front of the Rx1, especially when you consider how the whole optical assembly its attached to is designed to move to accommodate the macro mode of the camera.
You also can't attach any filters, and while it worked pretty well even into the corners on the 24meg sensor, I don't think its going to hold up as well with the 42meg sensor.
Its cool that it works and all, but if one wants a 24-ish mm equiv camera, I think there are far better options for $3500 than getting a RX1mkII and hacking a 0.75x UWC converter to hang off the front.
It really spoiled the handling and balance of the camera as well, not to mention that your pretty much stuck carrying the UWA around because its way too heavy to want to walk around with it attached and the camera hanging unsupported from a strap. The camera just wasn't designed for anything heavier than a hood or filter really.
Again, I'm all about trying new ideas, and I was looking forward to trying this the moment I saw the UWC announced, but it didn't really deliver to the extent I hoped it would.
There are some fantastic wide options such as the 25 Batis and 16-35 if you want wide. RX1 is best left as what it is, a fixed lens, very compact, 35-ish mm camera, not a system camera.
p.29 #6 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Bobu wrote:
I will be in Iceland next summer. We could meet there and shoot together for a couple of days. Just send me a PM if you are interested.
Boris
PM sent.
To me it all depends on exactly when and how. I would love to meet, see parts of Iceland and take some images.
p.29 #7 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
millsart wrote:
Optically this combo worked pretty well when I tried it with mine, however, the 0.75 UWC, is pretty massive, and its a lot of weight to hang off the front of the Rx1, especially when you consider how the whole optical assembly its attached to is designed to move to accommodate the macro mode of the camera.
You also can't attach any filters, and while it worked pretty well even into the corners on the 24meg sensor, I don't think its going to hold up as well with the 42meg sensor.
Its cool that it works and all, but if one wants a 24-ish mm equiv camera, I think there are far better options for $3500 than getting a RX1mkII and hacking a 0.75x UWC converter to hang off the front.
It really spoiled the handling and balance of the camera as well, not to mention that your pretty much stuck carrying the UWA around because its way too heavy to want to walk around with it attached and the camera hanging unsupported from a strap. The camera just wasn't designed for anything heavier than a hood or filter really.
Again, I'm all about trying new ideas, and I was looking forward to trying this the moment I saw the UWC announced, but it didn't really deliver to the extent I hoped it would.
There are some fantastic wide options such as the 25 Batis and 16-35 if you want wide. RX1 is best left as what it is, a fixed lens, very compact, 35-ish mm camera, not a system camera....Show more →
Any problems with mounting a Lee 100mm Filter system and a number of filters in the holder including Polarizing filters, ND, and Grad filters with as many as possibly 3 or so of these filters used at the same time? I am really considering this camera/lens as an option and to sell my Leica R 35mm f2 Summicron to help to pay for the camera. I haven't used the lens in sometime, had a CLA from Leica a couple of years ago and hasn't been used since.
Also, would intend to get possibly a RRS L bracket for the camera for faster changes in mounting on my tripod.
p.29 #8 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
naturephoto1 wrote:
Any problems with mounting a Lee 100mm Filter system and a number of filters in the holder including Polarizing filters, ND, and Grad filters with as many as possibly 3 or so of these filters used at the same time? I am really considering this camera/lens as an option and to sell my Leica R 35mm f2 Summicron to help to pay for the camera. I haven't used the lens in sometime, had a CLA from Leica a couple of years ago and hasn't been used since.
Also, would intend to get possibly a RRS L bracket for the camera for faster changes in mounting on my tripod.
You may have to try both the regular adapter ring as well as the wide angle one to see which works better given the lens is so small, but can't imagine you'd have any issues with your filters.
p.29 #10 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
corposant wrote:
You may have to try both the regular adapter ring as well as the wide angle one to see which works better given the lens is so small, but can't imagine you'd have any issues with your filters.
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Jeff Kott wrote:
Rich, check out page 18 of this thread - Millsart had a great suggestion for an RX1 L bracket.
Thanks guys. As to the adapters, I have a Heliopan 49mm to 77m step up ring which can screw into either a Lee WA or normal 77mm Lee Filter ring. So, I should be covered in either case. I was mainly only concerned regarding the weight since Millsart brought that up, but the filter system should not be overly heavy.
As to the L bracket, that looks great and much cheaper than the RRS brackets that I normally use. The only other question and we will need to wait on this is will there be any issue with the tilting LCD screen of the new version of the camera. I have not noted any issues with the tilting LCD screen with my A7r and my RRS L bracket, so hopefully this will also be OK.
p.29 #11 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
I would think any filter system should be fine. The weight of the UWC lens is far heavier (not sure the exact spec on the thing, but its a hunk of glass, probably 8oz or so) plus, the filter isn't something you'd likely be walking around with mounted.
The UWC weight probably isn't too unsafe when its static such as on a tripod, or if your at least supporting it with your left hand. Where I felt nervous with it was if I was to have it attached to the front element via the bayonet mount mod, or a hacked 49mm filter thread (the Ricoh GW3 0.75x fits like that btw) and then just letting the camera hang from a strap around my neck walking around. That has the potential to perhaps put some undue stress/torque on the lens assembly I would fear.
p.29 #12 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
millsart wrote:
Optically this combo worked pretty well when I tried it with mine, however, the 0.75 UWC, is pretty massive, and its a lot of weight to hang off the front of the Rx1, especially when you consider how the whole optical assembly its attached to is designed to move to accommodate the macro mode of the camera.
You also can't attach any filters, and while it worked pretty well even into the corners on the 24meg sensor, I don't think its going to hold up as well with the 42meg sensor.
Its cool that it works and all, but if one wants a 24-ish mm equiv camera, I think there are far better options for $3500 than getting a RX1mkII and hacking a 0.75x UWC converter to hang off the front.
It really spoiled the handling and balance of the camera as well, not to mention that your pretty much stuck carrying the UWA around because its way too heavy to want to walk around with it attached and the camera hanging unsupported from a strap. The camera just wasn't designed for anything heavier than a hood or filter really.
Again, I'm all about trying new ideas, and I was looking forward to trying this the moment I saw the UWC announced, but it didn't really deliver to the extent I hoped it would.
There are some fantastic wide options such as the 25 Batis and 16-35 if you want wide. RX1 is best left as what it is, a fixed lens, very compact, 35-ish mm camera, not a system camera....Show more →
The adapter is indeed heavy at 9.5oz. (about the weight of the FE55/1.8!). Your concern about the adapter being attached to the lens assembly is valid and could be a potential issue if used without care.
I agree that the RX1's strength lies in its compactness and high quality 35/2 lens. However, carrying around a 24mm (adapter) and using 50-70mm in crop mode may add to its versatility for those using it as a do it all camera.
I personally would not use the WA adapter either. To me, a killer kit would be RX1RII + A7RII Loxia 21/2.8 and FE 55/1.8.
p.29 #14 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
This may seem like a mundane question, but is there a way to program the custom buttons to use back button autofocus on the Rx1 (or presumably the Rx1rii)? I find it essential to the way I use a camera. With the Rx100iii, I need to switch to manual focus, which is cumbersome, and then there's the risk of accidentally hitting the focus ring (and manually focusing) which can completely throw off the focus.
p.29 #15 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
For those that own a RX1 or RX1R, I have a few questions regarding the camera. First. since the lens has an aperture ring and an aperture scale, but focus is by wire and there are marked distances on the lens, does the camera provide DOF distances when focusing either using MF or AF?
Second am I correct that in MF like an A7 series camera focus can be with both focus peaking as well as by magnified view. If magnified view is available what are the magnifications available for the camera and am I correct that the focus point can be moved?
p.29 #16 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
httivals wrote:
This may seem like a mundane question, but is there a way to program the custom buttons to use back button autofocus on the Rx1 (or presumably the Rx1rii)? I find it essential to the way I use a camera. With the Rx100iii, I need to switch to manual focus, which is cumbersome, and then there's the risk of accidentally hitting the focus ring (and manually focusing) which can completely throw off the focus.
"Now, the RX1 does not have an AF-ON button, but it does have an AEL button whose function can be changed to “MF/AF Control Hold” in the menu. Further, other buttons on the rear of the camera can also be programmed to toggle between AF and MF modes. What this all means is that you can work around the RX1’s buttons to make it’s focus work like a DSLR’s. (For those of you who are RX1 shooters, set the front switch to MF, the right control wheel button to MF/AF Toggle and the AEL button to MF/AF Control Hold and voila!)" Source: http://www.thegoldensieve.com/the-golden-sieve/sony-rx1-a-user-report
p.29 #17 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Very good. What I would like and other users I assume would as well is to match what we have setup on our A7 series cams or at least some main functions like you just described. That way it's a natural fit when we grab our 35 lens. I'm certainly going to rent this and see if it fits me.
p.29 #18 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Fred Miranda wrote:
The adapter is indeed heavy at 9.5oz. (about the weight of the FE55/1.8!). Your concern about the adapter being attached to the lens assembly is valid and could be a potential issue if used without care.
I agree that the RX1's strength lies in its compactness and high quality 35/2 lens. However, carrying around a 24mm (adapter) and using 50-70mm in crop mode may add to its versatility for those using it as a do it all camera.
I personally would not use the WA adapter either. To me, a killer kit would be RX1RII + A7RII Loxia 21/2.8 and FE 55/1.8. ...Show more →
All points are true. The 35 FL does the job for 95% of my RX1 shooting, the WA adapter just fills in that rare 5%, when there is no other option. I never leave it on the camera as I walk around, it's "per shot" use to me. The bayonet mechanism makes quick attach/detach easy as well. Of all the WA adaptors I would select this for that reason alone. I'm also conscious about the weight so I always support the adaptor with the left hand. However, once on, the adaptor feels quite sturdy and secure.
Fred, the killer kit you mention is my kit, except for the Loxia... I have the 28/2. I use the WA adaptor interchangeably between the RX1 and the 28/2. It still works perfectly with the 28/2 after the modification. This kit is powerful, small and nimble. I don't need or want anything else.... unless an FE 135/2 is announced
I recently brought the RX1 and WA adaptor on a Euro trip. I had nothing else and it worked out perfectly. The WA was used mostly in cramped cathedral's and museums.
p.29 #19 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
naturephoto1 wrote:
For those that own a RX1 or RX1R, I have a few questions regarding the camera. First. since the lens has an aperture ring and an aperture scale, but focus is by wire and there are marked distances on the lens, does the camera provide DOF distances when focusing either using MF or AF?
Second am I correct that in MF like an A7 series camera focus can be with both focus peaking as well as by magnified view. If magnified view is available what are the magnifications available for the camera and am I correct that the focus point can be moved?
no focus scale on the lens, but an almost useless one shows up in the viewfinder/lcd when you turn the focus ring. no dof information.
peaking only comes on in magnified mode, not in full frame view. hopefully the new one will correct this "feature". yes, the focus point and magnification point can be moved (works pretty much the same as your a7r). magnification is 5.9x (50% maybe?) and 11.7x (100% i assume).
p.29 #20 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
sebboh wrote:
no focus scale on the lens, but an almost useless one shows up in the viewfinder/lcd when you turn the focus ring. no dof information.
peaking only comes on in magnified mode, not in full frame view. hopefully the new one will correct this "feature". yes, the focus point and magnification point can be moved (works pretty much the same as your a7r). magnification is 5.9x (50% maybe?) and 11.7x (100% i assume).
Derek,
Thank you for the help and the information. Maybe I would need to carry a DOF page to provide an idea for a working estimate.
