p.28 #2 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Paul Gardner wrote:
I keep hearing people complain about ONLY two hundred frames of battery life.
After shooting Mamiya TLRs for years with 8 shots per roll, all I can say is quit your bitching. I have no idea how many frames my A7R or 5DS R will shoot, as if you can't anticipate your shot you are just spray and pray.
Didn't all the Mamiya TLRs (from the 1951 Mamiyaflex I to the 1983 Mamiya C330s) offer 12 shots (56mm x 56mm) per roll of 120 film while models from the 1966 C22 also supported 220 film that provided 24 exposures?
p.28 #3 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
If you can charge your batteries every couple of days 200 frames per battery is not a big problem. But I travel sometimes to places where charging is just not possible (like the Rwenzori mountains or Palau etc.). If I change from Nikon to Sony (which I plan to do in the next months) I will have to carry 35 batteries instead of 7 (or alternatively a few big external batteries for USB). It's possible, but neither cheap nor lightweight.
But in the past I was carrying 120 rolls of film for weeks through the rainforest of Costa Rica. That was definately worse.
p.28 #4 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Lol folks forget how much space film takes up. I used to carry bricks to photo shoots. a brick was I think 20 rolls of 35 film. That's about the size of 100 batteries for our A series cams. It's been so long I blocked it from memory. Lol
Ouch
My new mantra. Shrink camera bags good for the back.
p.28 #5 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Bobu wrote:
If you can charge your batteries every couple of days 200 frames per battery is not a big problem. But I travel (...)
...and there the battery life is an absolute factor. You need to stick to a DSLR, sounds pretty simple to me. Now we are in the RX1Rii thread though... and I doubt you would travel anywhere with a 35mm lens only, right? (And Boris, I won't ask you about the weight of your Zeiss lens collection.) Cheers, /Jonas
p.28 #6 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Jonas B wrote:
...and there the battery life is an absolute factor. You need to stick to a DSLR, sounds pretty simple to me. Now we are in the RX1Rii thread though... and I doubt you would travel anywhere with a 35mm lens only, right? (And Boris, I won't ask you about the weight of your Zeiss lens collection.) Cheers, /Jonas
My plan is to change from (two) D800E to the Sony A7RII but I was thinking about getting an A7RII + a RX1Rii instead of two A7RII. But the combination of short battery life and two different battery systems for both cameras is a no-go for me. Therfore I won't get the RX1Rii.
p.28 #7 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Bobu wrote:
My plan is to change from (two) D800E to the Sony A7RII but I was thinking about getting an A7RII + a RX1Rii instead of two A7RII. But the combination of short battery life and two different battery systems for both cameras is a no-go for me. Therfore I won't get the RX1Rii.
Boris
No, the new RX1 is not the solution. Like you I would avoid having to deal with two different types of batteries. The batteries was easier to deal with in the film era... I guess another problem for you is that the RX1Rii isn't weather shielded (haven't checked but my regular RX1 is not)?
I wish I could have traveled to Iceland together with you and Philippe a couple of years ago. Wrong timing for me. As it is I very seldom leave populated places with electric outlets for more than a day or two. Different needs.
/Jonas
p.28 #8 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Bobu wrote:
If you can charge your batteries every couple of days 200 frames per battery is not a big problem. But I travel sometimes to places where charging is just not possible (like the Rwenzori mountains or Palau etc.). If I change from Nikon to Sony (which I plan to do in the next months) I will have to carry 35 batteries instead of 7 (or alternatively a few big external batteries for USB). It's possible, but neither cheap nor lightweight.
But in the past I was carrying 120 rolls of film for weeks through the rainforest of Costa Rica. That was definately worse.
p.28 #9 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Jonas B wrote:
We can agree that longer battery life is desirable. At the same time, with a little perspective, a short battery life is no show stopper. Switching battery isn't hard and having a spare battery in the bag or in a pocket is what it is: one thing to remember, no more no less.
Charging can be a problem even in non-isolated areas like on a city break. You need to be around to change the batteries in the charger, so you can't charge a stack of them overnight as you could a single larger battery of equivalent total capacity. And it's exactly for this type of trip, where you want the camera with you all the time, that the camera is well suited.
There is also often just one good power point in a hotel, and my phone gets absolute priority for that if I have downtime in the room. Then I move it to the bedside (usually no power there) at night for its alarm clock function.
That said, I do think 200 shots per day is enough for me on this type of trip. But if it isn't for some people, they should think their recharging plan through. That should also take account of the very slow recharge via the camera's USB port—it is really only suitable for the one battery, overnight. The "travel charger" kit that charges a battery outside the camera is probably called that for a reason.
p.28 #10 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Zony_user wrote:
Just get one of these 50000mAh external batteries. (A7 batteries are 1500mAh by the way. This will get you at least 20-25 full charges)
Yes, thats what I will probably do. The only disadvantage is that directly connected to the camera you will loose some weather protection due to the cable and connector.
p.28 #11 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
melcat wrote:
(...) The "travel charger" kit that charges a battery outside the camera is probably called that for a reason.
Of course.
One outlet only? Unplug the lamp/TV/mini bar, talk with the reception, the kitchen staff or whatever... I never had a problem with that as there always are solutions.
p.28 #12 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Zony_user wrote:
Just get one of these 50000mAh external batteries. (A7 batteries are 1500mAh by the way. This will get you at least 20-25 full charges)
Cheap and small and 50000mAh? I'm sorry but that isn't right. Do you have one of these and have you actually measured the capacity? I have several power banks and they are always over-rated. By a lot.
p.28 #13 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
I admit that larger batteries are nice, but there are so many workarounds that trading the camera size for a larger battery is counter productive. For hiking I use a solar charger velcroed to my backback that will charge a spare battery even though slowly on a cloudy day. In my car I have a small 750 watt AC/DC converter under the front seat plugged into the cigarette lighter that runs my AC chargers.
My current lineup of cameras are each selected for their usage, and as the English say "horses for courses", and the RX1RII is on my next acquisition list.
p.28 #14 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Jonas B wrote:
Cheap and small and 50000mAh? I'm sorry but that isn't right. Do you have one of these and have you actually measured the capacity? I have several power banks and they are always over-rated. By a lot.
You have to factor in some resistance loss. 50000mAh is only the rated storage capacity of energy. It doesn't mean you'll be able to discharge all of it from the battery pack. That's why I stated 20-25 charges (30000-35000mAh)
p.28 #15 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Zony_user wrote:
You have to factor in some resistance loss. 50000mAh is only the rated storage capacity of energy. It doesn't mean you'll be able to discharge all of it from the battery pack. That's why I stated 20-25 charges (30000-35000mAh)
Internal resistance at both ends, yes. It's a good thing camera batteries don't draw any high currents.
Still, based on experience, from both similar and bigger/heavier/more expensive power banks, I really doubt you get 20-25 charges from that device. Maybe you have tried it? If so, how many times could you fully charge an empty A7 battery?
We do get a little off topic here but I think this can be interesting to some. A new thread maybe where we can share what we learned from using different power banks?
p.28 #16 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Zony_user wrote:
Just get one of these 50000mAh external batteries. (A7 batteries are 1500mAh by the way. This will get you at least 20-25 full charges)
p.28 #17 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Jonas B wrote:
Internal resistance at both ends, yes. It's a good thing camera batteries don't draw any high currents.
Still, based on experience, from both similar and bigger/heavier/more expensive power banks, I really doubt you get 20-25 charges from that device. Maybe you have tried it? If so, how many times could you fully charge an empty A7 battery?
We do get a little off topic here but I think this can be interesting to some. A new thread maybe where we can share what we learned from using different power banks?
No I haven't tried. And I agree it may benefit some Sony users so starting a new battery thread is a good idea.
p.28 #20 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Going back to RX1RII.
How many of you like the flash implementation on the RX1/R in aperture/AutoISO mode? (Built-in or external)
In aperture mode, the camera sets shutter speed to 1/80s and when using in conjunction with auto ISO the results are very unnatural. The reason is the camera always lowers ISO by at least a couple stops reducing ambient light considerably. In my experience, the workaround for getting more natural fill flash is shooting in manual mode, manual ISO and reduce flash power at least a stop.
