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p.24 #1 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Putting my Contax N 85 and Canon 85 FD L on a tripod, and shooting static test shots, there was an obvious difference in framing as well.


Oct 28, 2015 at 12:23 PM
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p.24 #2 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


wonky internet is double posting...ignore this.


Oct 28, 2015 at 12:23 PM
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p.24 #3 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Fred Miranda wrote:
I took a few test shots today. I much prefer the 35/2 rendering and bokeh at f/2 is smoother and less distracting when compared to the 35/2.8. Colors are bolder and contrast is higher as well. I boosted contrast (+15) and vibrance (+15) for the 35/2.8 shots. Still, not as good as RX1R.

Here is a few shots. Both have been corrected (Profile)

RX1R (f/2.0) on the LEFT for all.


Thanks Fred for the comparison.

For clarity - you mentioned that you boosted clarity and contrast for the FE35/2.8. Is that what we are seeing on the right hand side, or do both images -only- have profile corrections?




Oct 28, 2015 at 02:57 PM
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p.24 #4 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


carlitos wrote:
I'll bet that the RX1 team would like their design brief expanded to include a model with a 50mm lens.


Agreed. And I'd bet that a bunch of FM members would be equally delighted to see a 50mm model.



Oct 28, 2015 at 05:36 PM
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p.24 #5 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


I just got the FE 28/2 and tested it against the FE 35/2.8 and RX1R.

So far, I only tested for color, contrast, rendering and bokeh wide open. (That's why I'm posting resized images below).

I will test them tomorrow for sharpness including other apertures and at infinity.

Pictures straight from the camera shot in RAW mode.
Wide-open aperture,
No profile applied
No Lightroom setting applied.
Auto White Balance

TOP: RX1R
MIDDLE: FE 35/2.8
BOTTOM: FE 28/2

What is your analyses?



























Oct 28, 2015 at 07:35 PM
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p.24 #6 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


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Oct 28, 2015 at 07:36 PM
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p.24 #7 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Last ones... (Some a mid distance)






















Oct 28, 2015 at 07:47 PM
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p.24 #8 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


I subjectively like all 3 of them best, depending on the specific image.

The RX1 certainly is the smoothest, but sometimes I don't aesthetically find that the "best". The last image of the tree trunk with vine for example, I actually prefer the 35/2.8 FE's overall rendering, yet at other times it can be a bit "busy"

All 3 are very nice optics for their respective price (and other attributes) though, and paired with the 35/1.4 FE Sony has quite a lot of choices for photogs in the semi-wide to normal focal length.



Oct 28, 2015 at 07:56 PM
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p.24 #9 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


The RX1 is incredibly smooth, but I like the contrast in the 35mm 2.8 images. The 28mm f2 looks great as well and very similar to the 35, but quite a bit wider


Oct 28, 2015 at 08:12 PM
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35/2.8 just doesn't look pleasing to me in most shots. I like both RX1 and 28. And i didn't thought that 28 FE would be that much wider.


Oct 28, 2015 at 08:48 PM
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p.24 #11 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


For the price, the FE 28 is something!


Oct 28, 2015 at 08:57 PM
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p.24 #12 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


I'm also impressed with the 200g compact FE28/2 lens regardless of the price. Sharpness (center/mid), contrast and color look great. I did some quick tests getting the lens closer matching the RX1R focal length (which is less than a foot closer), and background blur looks very similar. It can also focus closer than the FE35/2.8. (Not as close as RX1R though, especially in macro mode)

The A7R+FE28/2 is about 600g. Only about 100g more than the new RX1R II.



Oct 28, 2015 at 09:09 PM
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p.24 #13 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


I'm in the camp like the contrast of the 35 2.8 but like the OOF of the Rx. The 28mm looks just flat to me. The 2.8 had the best pop or 3D look.


Oct 28, 2015 at 09:10 PM
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p.24 #14 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Smoothest Bokeh
Rx
28 f2
35 2.8

The 28 is just not popping to me for some reason



Oct 28, 2015 at 09:13 PM
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p.24 #15 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Also, RX1 has the least amount of vignetting, which i didn't expect. 35FE is the worst of the three. And i kinda like distortion in 28FE, looks like very light version of the fisheye lens


Oct 28, 2015 at 09:17 PM
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p.24 #16 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Given at retail prices its a few hundred cheaper, and a stop faster (not to mention pairing better with the 55/1.8) I don't know if I'd of gotten the 35/2.8 FE had the 28/2 existed.

The 35 is a little more compact and has a cool hood, but Sony hit something of a sweet spot in the compromise between size/cost/performance with the 28/2.

I'm really hoping for a short tele in the 85-100mm range, and hopefully f2.0, coming in around $500 for the FE system.

Nothing wrong with the amazing Batis 85, or the 90 macro, but the price can get a bit steep when every system lens cost over a grand (something not true of just Sony but other systems as well)

I'm really in favor of a renaissance of compact, semi-fast, pretty good optically lenses that aren't too outrageously priced. Something were folks can put together a 2 or 3 lens kit of classic focal lengths for less than the price of a single lens.

That is how the hobby used to be back when I was shooting the OM and Canon FDn systems. Lots of reasonable choices that got the job done. Then the market shifted to two extremes, cheap crappy zooms, or high end gear for the pixel peepers with little middle ground.




Oct 28, 2015 at 09:23 PM
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p.24 #17 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


GMPhotography wrote:
Smoothest Bokeh
Rx
28 f2
35 2.8

The 28 is just not popping to me for some reason


Keep in mind that these images were not processed at all. They are screenshots from my LR window (survey mode). So, they were not even properly resized. We should only pay attention to FL differences, rendering, vignetting and bokeh for this test.

Also, the 35/2.8 images were shot with a A7R and 28/2 with A7RII. Exposure settings were identical for all cameras but I had +0.7 exposure compensation for all three. When post processing and fixing exposure/sharpness, colors and contrast will get much improved.



Oct 28, 2015 at 09:23 PM
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p.24 #18 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Fred, care to sum up your experience with rx1? Any people shots yet? Tried its close focus?


Oct 28, 2015 at 09:25 PM
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p.24 #19 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Fred thanks for doing this test. It tells me a lot. In all honesty and no offense to any owners of these three. I'm just not sure there is one I would keep. I like a combination of the three. I like different elements of each. Maybe I'm just to darn picky


Oct 28, 2015 at 09:26 PM
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p.24 #20 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF


Fred Miranda wrote:
Keep in mind that these images were not processed at all. They are screenshots from my LR window (survey mode). So, they were not even properly resized. We should only pay attention to FL differences, rendering, vignetting and bokeh for this test.

Also, the 35/2.8 images were shot with a A7R and 28/2 with A7RII. Exposure settings were identical for all cameras but I had +0.7 exposure compensation for all three. When post processing and fixing exposure/sharpness, colors and contrast will get much improved.


Okay good . Thanks Fred maybe why I'm not screaming up and down since they are not processed out.



Oct 28, 2015 at 09:28 PM
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