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p.11 #1Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
molson wrote:
You would think that by now, people would be used to seeing terrible review samples, regardless of the gear involved, as manufacturers have no interest in doling out samples to people who might know what they're doing.
I pre-orderd a Loxia 21 yesterday, in spite of all the review photos...
Honestly I don't really go by any review photos. im not going to tear down other shooters but I really only trust myself. But I do look at how the lens renders and its character. Part of the problem is people are looking for good art shots and that's fine but tells you very little about the lens. If I see one good image than I know what the lens can do . If it's 20 crappy ones it don't matter. This lens looks to be very very good and if it's not I'll sell it. But I want it in my hands first so I don't judge much till than. I ordered it also and first on the pre-order list. Hopefully I'll get it quick and run some tests with it and than we will know better. I'm pretty good at lens testing even better I have no agenda.
You would think that by now, people would be used to seeing terrible review samples, regardless of the gear involved, as manufacturers have no interest in doling out samples to people who might know what they're doing.
I pre-orderd a Loxia 21 yesterday, in spite of all the review photos...
Honestly I don't really go by any review photos. im not going to tear down other shooters but I really only trust myself. But I do look at how the lens renders and its character. Part of the problem is people are looking for good art shots and that's fine but tells you very little about the lens. If I see one good image than I know what the lens can do . If it's 20 crappy ones it don't matter. This lens looks to be very very good and if it's not I'll sell it. But I want it in my hands first so I don't judge much till than. I ordered it also and first on the pre-order list. Hopefully I'll get it quick and run some tests with it and than we will know better. I'm pretty good at lens testing even better I have no agenda.
Oct 17, 2015 at 03:53 PM
p.11 #2Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
philber wrote:
But, at 21mm and in a small package, it is not like we have much choice, especially in native mount. Like none. Besides, the MTF look quite promising, and the fact that Zeiss haven't released a bad "new" lens in years. Thus my order is in. With a bit of luck, I should be playing with one in a couple of weeks at the Paris show.
I agree, and if I shot the native sensor my order would be in as well.
With great relief after long suffering 
The samples are not much to go by, and a shame to include crops. We should all know by now minute focus accuracy is going to be needed to get the best out of wide angles on the Sonys. I'll be surprised if we don't see some world class performance from this on on the R2
But.....it should have been 18
But, at 21mm and in a small package, it is not like we have much choice, especially in native mount. Like none. Besides, the MTF look quite promising, and the fact that Zeiss haven't released a bad "new" lens in years. Thus my order is in. With a bit of luck, I should be playing with one in a couple of weeks at the Paris show.
I agree, and if I shot the native sensor my order would be in as well.
With great relief after long suffering The samples are not much to go by, and a shame to include crops. We should all know by now minute focus accuracy is going to be needed to get the best out of wide angles on the Sonys. I'll be surprised if we don't see some world class performance from this on on the R2
But.....it should have been 18
Oct 17, 2015 at 06:24 PM
p.11 #3Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Steve Spencer wrote:
Steve, I haven't noticed these. Or else I didn't recoginze what I saw as hiw rok. Care to educate me? Thanks!Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant the ones shot by Christain Dandyk that twoeye posted the link to,
Thanks for the info. Yes, I've seen Christian Dandyk's work. But,if anything, AFAIAC, A. Watsel's pictures mean more to me. Loxia 21 review
philber wrote
Steve Spencer wrote
I actually think that the samples twoeye posted look very good.Thanks for the info. Yes, I've seen Christian Dandyk's work. But,if anything, AFAIAC, A. Watsel's pictures mean more to me. Loxia 21 review
Oct 18, 2015 at 08:44 AM
p.11 #4Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
philber wrote:
Steve, I haven't noticed these. Or else I didn't recoginze what I saw as hiw rok. Care to educate me? Thanks!Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant the ones shot by Christain Dandyk that twoeye posted the link to,Thanks for the info. Yes, I've seen Christian Dandyk's work. But,if anything, AFAIAC, A. Watsel's pictures mean more to me. Loxia 21 review
Yes, Phillipe, that is very nice work, but it is all close in shooting, portrait distance so it really didn't put the lens to that much of a work out, IMO, and it is for a use that would not be very common for me at all. Still I enjoyed the review and the photos,.
Steve Spencer wrote
philber wrote
Steve Spencer wrote
I actually think that the samples twoeye posted look very good.Yes, Phillipe, that is very nice work, but it is all close in shooting, portrait distance so it really didn't put the lens to that much of a work out, IMO, and it is for a use that would not be very common for me at all. Still I enjoyed the review and the photos,.
Oct 18, 2015 at 09:00 AM
p.11 #5Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
No doubt, the Dandyk review looks more like what I would/will do. But the Waetsel review shows the lens to be very discriminating of colours, materials and structures, which is a key performance factor for me.
Oct 18, 2015 at 09:07 AM
p.11 #6Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
I look at that review and think these would have been better done with a 24mm or Batis - environmental portraiture is better suited to that FL IMHO. Regardless, I think this lens will be awesome.
Oct 18, 2015 at 10:15 AM
p.11 #7Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
philber wrote:
No doubt, the Dandyk review looks more like what I would/will do. But the Waetsel review shows the lens to be very discriminating of colours, materials and structures, which is a key performance factor for me.
Waetsel review seems to have his own filter applied for every picture. So it's hard to say if one can achieve the same result.
No doubt, the Dandyk review looks more like what I would/will do. But the Waetsel review shows the lens to be very discriminating of colours, materials and structures, which is a key performance factor for me.
Waetsel review seems to have his own filter applied for every picture. So it's hard to say if one can achieve the same result.
Oct 18, 2015 at 10:26 AM
p.11 #8Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Lovely. Can't wait to try it out. 
Oct 20, 2015 at 05:18 PM
p.11 #9Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
I just finished up my report from PhotoPlus, where I got to try out the Loxia 21mm. It's really impressive Sharp to the corners even wide open and minimal aberrations. My full report is here: http://admiringlight.com/blog/hands-on-sony-and-zeiss-booths-rx1r-ii-a7s-ii-loxia-21mm/
Some full size samples:
http://admiringlight.com/2015/loxia1_f.jpg
http://admiringlight.com/2015/loxia2_f.jpg
http://admiringlight.com/2015/loxia3_f.jpg
Some full size samples:
http://admiringlight.com/2015/loxia1_f.jpg
http://admiringlight.com/2015/loxia2_f.jpg
http://admiringlight.com/2015/loxia3_f.jpg
Oct 22, 2015 at 12:38 PM
p.11 #10Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Jordan, thanks for posting those samples, the lens looks great on the camera!
By the way, could you elaborate a bit on the AF speed of the RX1R II? I would really to know how it compared to the A7 series, or the original RX1 if you've ever shot with it before.
By the way, could you elaborate a bit on the AF speed of the RX1R II? I would really to know how it compared to the A7 series, or the original RX1 if you've ever shot with it before.
Oct 22, 2015 at 12:46 PM
p.11 #12Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
I'm first on my dealers list. Can't wait
What's going on over at Sony any announcements
What's going on over at Sony any announcements
Oct 22, 2015 at 12:52 PM
p.11 #13Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Nothing much for Sony. The AF felt pretty quick on the RX1R II..hard to compare to the RX1, as I only used it for a few minutes at PHotokina last year, but it seemed comparable to most of the fast lenses on the A7 series cameras.
I've got running hands-on reports coming the rest of this afternoon. Just finished my Fuji report (mainly the 35/2) and starting my Leica SL report...I have full size samples there too from both lenses. I also got my hands on the Mitakon 135/1.4...which is absurdly large.
I've got running hands-on reports coming the rest of this afternoon. Just finished my Fuji report (mainly the 35/2) and starting my Leica SL report...I have full size samples there too from both lenses. I also got my hands on the Mitakon 135/1.4...which is absurdly large.
Oct 22, 2015 at 01:15 PM
p.11 #15Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Thanks Jordan! Kinda curious to see that Mitakon size . Waiting for your impression. Too bad you didn't bring your Canikon adapter for the Sony, would love to see test shots with the Otus 28 in artificial light and boxy environment.
I heard there will be announcement after the show, but SAR is so unreliable nowadays that can't really tell.
. Waiting for your impression. Too bad you didn't bring your Canikon adapter for the Sony, would love to see test shots with the Otus 28 in artificial light and boxy environment.I heard there will be announcement after the show, but SAR is so unreliable nowadays that can't really tell.
Oct 22, 2015 at 01:25 PM
p.11 #16Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Wow, looking forward to the SL report!
Oct 22, 2015 at 01:27 PM
p.11 #18Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
hiepphotog wrote:
Thanks Jordan! Kinda curious to see that Mitakon size. Waiting for your impression. Too bad you didn't bring your Canikon adapter for the Sony, would love to see test shots with the Otus 28 in artificial light and boxy environment.
I heard there will be announcement after the show, but SAR is so unreliable nowadays that can't really tell.
Yea I'm about to buy the Rokion 135 f2 for cheap until Sony or someone gives me a native 135 or 200. I'll give it a couple days to wait it out. But I am slightly miffed no announcements yet.
Thanks Jordan! Kinda curious to see that Mitakon size
. Waiting for your impression. Too bad you didn't bring your Canikon adapter for the Sony, would love to see test shots with the Otus 28 in artificial light and boxy environment.I heard there will be announcement after the show, but SAR is so unreliable nowadays that can't really tell.
Yea I'm about to buy the Rokion 135 f2 for cheap until Sony or someone gives me a native 135 or 200. I'll give it a couple days to wait it out. But I am slightly miffed no announcements yet.
Oct 22, 2015 at 02:10 PM
p.11 #19Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
GMPhotography wrote:
. Waiting for your impression. Too bad you didn't bring your Canikon adapter for the Sony, would love to see test shots with the Otus 28 in artificial light and boxy environment.
I heard there will be announcement after the show, but SAR is so unreliable nowadays that can't really tell.Yea I'm about to buy the Rokion 135 f2 for cheap until Sony or someone gives me a native 135 or 200. I'll give it a couple days to wait it out. But I am slightly miffed no announcements yet.
At this focal, I will be patient and wait for the native AF lenses with face detect and EyeAF. But the wait is killing me too
hiepphotog wrote
Thanks Jordan! Kinda curious to see that Mitakon size. Waiting for your impression. Too bad you didn't bring your Canikon adapter for the Sony, would love to see test shots with the Otus 28 in artificial light and boxy environment.I heard there will be announcement after the show, but SAR is so unreliable nowadays that can't really tell.
At this focal, I will be patient and wait for the native AF lenses with face detect and EyeAF. But the wait is killing me too
Oct 22, 2015 at 02:13 PM
p.11 #20Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Yea certainly a temporary fix for 550 dollars I can afford to lose a 100 or 150 on resale when Sony wakes up.
Oct 22, 2015 at 02:35 PM