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Archive 2015Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
p.5 #1Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
And a substantial increase in weight, whereas it already is 1kg. Yuck!
Sep 10, 2015 at 11:31 AM
p.5 #2Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
These are less exciting than a new Otus and Loxia announcement imo
Sep 10, 2015 at 11:34 AM
p.5 #3Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
1200g for the 85! Wow.
Sep 10, 2015 at 11:52 AM
p.5 #4Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
is that true?
zeiss lenses are now made by fuji?
molson wrote:
I never liked the Cosina materials either. These new Fuji-built lenses look a lot nicer. 
Too bad no one makes a DSLR with a decent focusing screen for manual focus any more, so that removes any temptation for me.
zeiss lenses are now made by fuji?
molson wrote:
edwardkaraa wrote
I kind of like the new packaging. I was never a fan of the Cosina housing with the chromed filter ring. They look more matching with the dslr cams they are made for.Too bad no one makes a DSLR with a decent focusing screen for manual focus any more, so that removes any temptation for me.
Sep 10, 2015 at 11:58 AM
p.5 #5Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
I think what we really see today is the announcement of 2 new lenses (a 50 f/1.4 and an 85 f/1.4) that are interesting. These lenses look very similar in design to the Otus lenses (in fact I wonder if they weren't designs that were even considered for the Otus lenses). They look like excellent designs and the prices are not bad at all, but they are large. This fits what Zeiss has done historically with SLR and DSLR lenses, but it isn't what many of us would like. In addition to these two lenses they also are making their DSLR lenses (as with the Loxia lenses) much better fits for videographers.
It will be interesting to see what lenses they essentially port from ZE/ZF to Milvus and what lenses they redesign. I think there will be some of each. For example, I would expect the 18 f/3.5 to get a redesign, and I will be shocked if they redesign the 135 APO (and that might get ported to Otus instead of Milvus). Here are my guesses:
15 f/2.8 - ported to MIlvus
18 f/3.5 - redesigned
25 f/2 - ported to Milvus
25 f/2.8 - not ported or redesigned
28 f/2 - this is a slightly hard one, but I think they will redesign it
35 f/1.4 - redesigned
135 f/2 APO - ported but perhaps to Otus
It will be interesting to see what lenses they essentially port from ZE/ZF to Milvus and what lenses they redesign. I think there will be some of each. For example, I would expect the 18 f/3.5 to get a redesign, and I will be shocked if they redesign the 135 APO (and that might get ported to Otus instead of Milvus). Here are my guesses:
15 f/2.8 - ported to MIlvus
18 f/3.5 - redesigned
25 f/2 - ported to Milvus
25 f/2.8 - not ported or redesigned
28 f/2 - this is a slightly hard one, but I think they will redesign it
35 f/1.4 - redesigned
135 f/2 APO - ported but perhaps to Otus
Sep 10, 2015 at 12:01 PM
p.5 #6Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Thanks Steve for the correction. Anyway, such an underwhelming announcement. I was looking forward to seeing that new Otus/Loxia. This whole Milvus business is not interesting to me one bit because they grow both in size and weight. But then again, I don't shoot with a DSLR anymore 
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By the way, if they design these for the video crowd, should they have a uniform filter size... This half-ass approach (half still half motion) doesn't do either side any favor.
.By the way, if they design these for the video crowd, should they have a uniform filter size... This half-ass approach (half still half motion) doesn't do either side any favor.
Sep 10, 2015 at 12:16 PM
p.5 #7Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
I hope the Millhouse production doesn't slow down the backorders of Batis lenses. B&H shows an October release for the new lenses.
Still waiting for my 25 Zeiss....
Chris
Still waiting for my 25 Zeiss....
Chris
Sep 10, 2015 at 12:17 PM
p.5 #8Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
joychris wrote:
I hope the Millhouse production doesn't slow down the backorders of Batis lenses. B&H shows an October release for the new lenses.
Still waiting for my 25 Zeiss....
Chris
Maybe they have moved production to China or Vietnam from the Cosina facility in Japan and can now offer better prices.
I hope the Millhouse production doesn't slow down the backorders of Batis lenses. B&H shows an October release for the new lenses.
Still waiting for my 25 Zeiss....
Chris
Maybe they have moved production to China or Vietnam from the Cosina facility in Japan and can now offer better prices.
Sep 10, 2015 at 12:25 PM
p.5 #9Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
shogo73 wrote:
is that true?
zeiss lenses are now made by fuji?
I never liked the Cosina materials either. These new Fuji-built lenses look a lot nicer.
Too bad no one makes a DSLR with a decent focusing screen for manual focus any more, so that removes any temptation for me.
Fuji makes the Loxia and Batis lenses, along with all the lenses for Hasselblad, and since these new lenses appear to be from the same design family (as do the Otus lenses...), that would be my educated guess. After all, Fuji has been one of the world's premier lens makers for a couple of decades.
is that true?
zeiss lenses are now made by fuji?
molson wrote
edwardkaraa wrote
I kind of like the new packaging. I was never a fan of the Cosina housing with the chromed filter ring. They look more matching with the dslr cams they are made for.Too bad no one makes a DSLR with a decent focusing screen for manual focus any more, so that removes any temptation for me.
Fuji makes the Loxia and Batis lenses, along with all the lenses for Hasselblad, and since these new lenses appear to be from the same design family (as do the Otus lenses...), that would be my educated guess. After all, Fuji has been one of the world's premier lens makers for a couple of decades.
Sep 10, 2015 at 12:40 PM
p.5 #10Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Zeiss mtf says:
50p = wide open soft compared to 50/1.4 milvus
50/1.4 milvus = wide open not far behind 55 otus.
50p = wide open soft compared to 50/1.4 milvus
50/1.4 milvus = wide open not far behind 55 otus.
Sep 10, 2015 at 12:40 PM
p.5 #11Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Zeiss 50/1.4 milvus sample looks
nervous.
I am wondering if it's retaining the same planar look.
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nervous.
I am wondering if it's retaining the same planar look.
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Sep 10, 2015 at 12:46 PM
p.5 #12Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
aahh. okay.
i don’t know about Loxia. but i remember reading somewhere (recently) that Batis lenses come with Cosina warranty.
i don’t know about Loxia. but i remember reading somewhere (recently) that Batis lenses come with Cosina warranty.
Sep 10, 2015 at 12:47 PM
p.5 #13Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Otus-Milvus-Hevius-Grandus-Precius
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Sep 10, 2015 at 12:57 PM
p.5 #14Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
bushwacker wrote:
Zeiss 50/1.4 milvus sample looks
nervous.
I am wondering if it's retaining the same planar look.
Well the 50 f/14 Milvus is a Distagon not a planar, so it is much closer in design to the Otus 55 than anything else. I think it is very early to tell anything about the bokeh.
Zeiss 50/1.4 milvus sample looks
nervous.
I am wondering if it's retaining the same planar look.
Well the 50 f/14 Milvus is a Distagon not a planar, so it is much closer in design to the Otus 55 than anything else. I think it is very early to tell anything about the bokeh.
Sep 10, 2015 at 12:58 PM
p.5 #15Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Bummer....was hoping we would see an Otus 21mm f/.95 .
Sep 10, 2015 at 01:06 PM
p.5 #16Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
I don't understand anything Zeiss has done in like ten years.
Sep 10, 2015 at 01:36 PM
p.5 #17Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Lee Saxon wrote:
I don't understand anything Zeiss has done in like ten years.
All they need is to fix the planars 50 and 85 retain the same look.
I don't understand anything Zeiss has done in like ten years.
All they need is to fix the planars 50 and 85 retain the same look.
Sep 10, 2015 at 01:40 PM
p.5 #18Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
shogo73 wrote:
aahh. okay.
i don’t know about Loxia. but i remember reading somewhere (recently) that Batis lenses come with Cosina warranty.
Whatever the case, it's unlikely Zeiss will tell us who actually makes the lenses for them... but it's the results that count anyway.
aahh. okay.
i don’t know about Loxia. but i remember reading somewhere (recently) that Batis lenses come with Cosina warranty.
Whatever the case, it's unlikely Zeiss will tell us who actually makes the lenses for them... but it's the results that count anyway.
Sep 10, 2015 at 01:40 PM
p.5 #19Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
I agree, once you take away the marketing speak (has there ever been a lens release when "new coatings" have been not been mentioned?) these look largely reclothed ZE/ZFs with 50/1.4 and 85/1.4 redesigned - both of the original ZEs seem to have been considered unspectacular (when reading the reviews), so perhaps it was necessary. A big retrograde step making them heavier in my opinion. Probably kills them for me, but then I am not in the market for the 120 MP Canon. I'd still like the 50 and 100 Makro original ZEs...
Sep 10, 2015 at 01:45 PM
p.5 #20Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Taylor Sherman wrote:
1200g for the 85! Wow.
a BIG announcement
Seriously - a complete let down for me... Inviting half of the world for this
1200g for the 85! Wow.
a BIG announcement
Seriously - a complete let down for me... Inviting half of the world for this
Sep 10, 2015 at 02:09 PM