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p.4 #1Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
torakun wrote:
Hi there!
Sorry been away. Well, the M240 will find a new home, in mine, by Friday at the latest! I have bought it with 50 summicron (all second hand btw, but the 50 is still under warranty for over a year left). I could have spring for a 50 summilux but not too sure.. Maybe after using this for couple of months and if I feel like I need f 1.4 then I'll exchange it. If not, I'll look for another focal length, like 28 ot 35 (both are expensive btw.. may have to go for the new Zeiss ZM...Show more →
Leica used price has been steadily dropping so get as much Leica as you can. UWA/WA side, get the Super-Elmar 18/21 or Elmar 24. They're just much more friendly than the equivalent Zeiss ZM (less color cast, smaller, lighter) and they're the sharpest UWA/WA you can find on the Leica system. Sheer performance, ZM 35/1.4 would stomp any Leica Lux and most Crons. Longer than 50, if it's not your main focus, a Canon LTM 100/2 would be good enough for most purpose while being the fastest/longest RF lens.
Arai wrote
So how's your impression on your new M240 torakun?Sorry been away. Well, the M240 will find a new home, in mine, by Friday at the latest! I have bought it with 50 summicron (all second hand btw, but the 50 is still under warranty for over a year left). I could have spring for a 50 summilux but not too sure.. Maybe after using this for couple of months and if I feel like I need f 1.4 then I'll exchange it. If not, I'll look for another focal length, like 28 ot 35 (both are expensive btw.. may have to go for the new Zeiss ZM...Show more →
Leica used price has been steadily dropping so get as much Leica as you can. UWA/WA side, get the Super-Elmar 18/21 or Elmar 24. They're just much more friendly than the equivalent Zeiss ZM (less color cast, smaller, lighter) and they're the sharpest UWA/WA you can find on the Leica system. Sheer performance, ZM 35/1.4 would stomp any Leica Lux and most Crons. Longer than 50, if it's not your main focus, a Canon LTM 100/2 would be good enough for most purpose while being the fastest/longest RF lens.
Sep 30, 2015 at 08:09 AM
p.4 #2Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
hiepphotog wrote:
Leica used price has been steadily dropping so get as much Leica as you can.
Not from my experience...the only Leica M lenses which I have seen dropping are the ones which do not work well with the Sony A7 series cameras, for example the 35/2 ASPH.
Leica used price has been steadily dropping so get as much Leica as you can.
Not from my experience...the only Leica M lenses which I have seen dropping are the ones which do not work well with the Sony A7 series cameras, for example the 35/2 ASPH.
Sep 30, 2015 at 08:39 PM
p.4 #3Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
retrofocus wrote:
Not from my experience...the only Leica M lenses which I have seen dropping are the ones which do not work well with the Sony A7 series cameras, for example the 35/2 ASPH.
Then you have not followed the price that closely. I'm seeing a $1700 SEM 18mm right now that's still available. Beginning of this year, it was around $2800 at least for a used one. Most of Leica lenses under 50mm don't work well with the A7 series.
However, the prime exception is the WATE. Just early this year, used price is going for $4500 a pop with VF. Now, roughly $3700-$3800 (still on the high side). I'm quoting prices from fora. eBay auction is even lower. I have seen WATE gone for $3400 with full accessories.
At least every other day I check price on FM, GetDPI and eBay for Leica price. I have a few pieces I want to move but if I'm selling right now, the loss is unacceptable to me. And I bought them at good prices during summer.
hiepphotog wrote
Leica used price has been steadily dropping so get as much Leica as you can.Then you have not followed the price that closely. I'm seeing a $1700 SEM 18mm right now that's still available. Beginning of this year, it was around $2800 at least for a used one. Most of Leica lenses under 50mm don't work well with the A7 series.
However, the prime exception is the WATE. Just early this year, used price is going for $4500 a pop with VF. Now, roughly $3700-$3800 (still on the high side). I'm quoting prices from fora. eBay auction is even lower. I have seen WATE gone for $3400 with full accessories.
At least every other day I check price on FM, GetDPI and eBay for Leica price. I have a few pieces I want to move but if I'm selling right now, the loss is unacceptable to me. And I bought them at good prices during summer.
Sep 30, 2015 at 09:58 PM
p.4 #4Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
Still depends on the lens. Some rare lenses go for more. I just bought a R 280/4 and the prices I found were higher than a year ago.
Sep 30, 2015 at 11:21 PM
p.4 #5Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
torakun wrote:
Thank you for the inputs!
I think I made a mistake pre ordering the A7RII, the problem is that, I was super excited and so looking forward on owning one. However, now that I've been left waiting until I don't know when (supposedly it will be delivered this month for my pre order), my mistake was reading on many reviews. That coupled with the long waiting time is making me very unsure about this move. For example, I could just get Fuji XPRO1 (I don't like the newer Xtrans sensor)+23mm f1.4+16mm f1.4+56mm f1.2, all for only $2100. I'm just a hobbyist...Show more →
While not in the same league , the Fujinon 35mm f1.4 on the X Pro 1 is REALLY nice..
j.
Thank you for the inputs!
I think I made a mistake pre ordering the A7RII, the problem is that, I was super excited and so looking forward on owning one. However, now that I've been left waiting until I don't know when (supposedly it will be delivered this month for my pre order), my mistake was reading on many reviews. That coupled with the long waiting time is making me very unsure about this move. For example, I could just get Fuji XPRO1 (I don't like the newer Xtrans sensor)+23mm f1.4+16mm f1.4+56mm f1.2, all for only $2100. I'm just a hobbyist...Show more →
While not in the same league , the Fujinon 35mm f1.4 on the X Pro 1 is REALLY nice..
j.
Oct 01, 2015 at 01:47 AM
p.4 #6Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
I answer to the original question.
The Voigtlander 50mm f1.5 is very very nice . For colour images oozing with character .
I don't like it for B&W, too low contrast. (the FE 55 blows it out of the water, outstanding for B&W)
but.. if you shoot colour, like a lens with character , and enjoy manual focus.
The Voigt has a lot going for it.
I have the chrome (brass built) version and the build is superb .
Cheers,
Josh.
The Voigtlander 50mm f1.5 is very very nice . For colour images oozing with character .
I don't like it for B&W, too low contrast. (the FE 55 blows it out of the water, outstanding for B&W)
but.. if you shoot colour, like a lens with character , and enjoy manual focus.
The Voigt has a lot going for it.
I have the chrome (brass built) version and the build is superb .
Cheers,
Josh.
Oct 01, 2015 at 01:54 AM
p.4 #7Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
I think the used price of the current lenses are steadily dropping as you can obtain new lenses at least through grey market at about 30% less than what it used to be 3 years ago. This is certainly true of Noct, 50/2 apo, 35/1.4 fle etc. I got most of mine in the past 18 months and the current price is still even lower than a year ago. So I imagine that the used price would drop as well. Some of the current new price in grey market is as low as 2nd hand price I saw a year or two ago at least in the local market here. However I did not see any significant drop on the older versions of Leica M or R though.
Oct 01, 2015 at 03:03 AM
p.4 #8Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
hiepphotog wrote:
Not from my experience...the only Leica M lenses which I have seen dropping are the ones which do not work well with the Sony A7 series cameras, for example the 35/2 ASPH.Then you have not followed the price that closely. I'm seeing a $1700 SEM 18mm right now that's still available. Beginning of this year, it was around $2800 at least for a used one. Most of Leica lenses under 50mm don't work well with the A7 series.
However, the prime exception is the WATE. Just early this year, used price is going for $4500 a pop with VF. Now, roughly $3700-$3800 (still on the high side). I'm quoting prices from fora. eBay auction is even lower. I have seen WATE gone for $3400 with full accessories.
At least every other day I...Show more →
You might be right since we are checking different sites for used lens gear. I normally avoid ebay for lens purchases for different reasons. I rather look at used lens items in professional stores, Amazon etc. And I didn't see such severe drop there, but I am also not eyeing on the lenses you mentioned above, so your analysis might be correct.
retrofocus wrote
hiepphotog wrote
Leica used price has been steadily dropping so get as much Leica as you can.However, the prime exception is the WATE. Just early this year, used price is going for $4500 a pop with VF. Now, roughly $3700-$3800 (still on the high side). I'm quoting prices from fora. eBay auction is even lower. I have seen WATE gone for $3400 with full accessories.
At least every other day I...Show more →
You might be right since we are checking different sites for used lens gear. I normally avoid ebay for lens purchases for different reasons. I rather look at used lens items in professional stores, Amazon etc. And I didn't see such severe drop there, but I am also not eyeing on the lenses you mentioned above, so your analysis might be correct.
Oct 01, 2015 at 05:16 AM
p.4 #9Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
Some nice fast M lenses that won't break the bank (compared to the price of latest Leica lenses)
- Voightlander 35 1.2
- Voightlander Ultron 35 1.7
- Zeiss Distagon 35 1.4 ZM
- Leica 35 Summilux V2 (however wide open very soft and glowy, but can be nice for B&W)
- Leica 35 Summicron V4 (if you are looking for 35mm f2, this is cheaper, smaller, lighter. Many prefer this version to 35 Summicron asph)
- Leica 50 Summilux V2 (Many also prefer this to the latest summilux ASPH for its bokeh character and not as clinical)
- Voightlander 35 1.2
- Voightlander Ultron 35 1.7
- Zeiss Distagon 35 1.4 ZM
- Leica 35 Summilux V2 (however wide open very soft and glowy, but can be nice for B&W)
- Leica 35 Summicron V4 (if you are looking for 35mm f2, this is cheaper, smaller, lighter. Many prefer this version to 35 Summicron asph)
- Leica 50 Summilux V2 (Many also prefer this to the latest summilux ASPH for its bokeh character and not as clinical)
Oct 01, 2015 at 11:25 AM
p.4 #10Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
tchirath wrote:
Some nice fast M lenses that won't break the bank (compared to the price of latest Leica lenses)
- Voightlander 35 1.2
- Voightlander Ultron 35 1.7
- Zeiss Distagon 35 1.4 ZM
- Leica 35 Summilux V2 (however wide open very soft and glowy, but can be nice for B&W)
- Leica 35 Summicron V4 (if you are looking for 35mm f2, this is cheaper, smaller, lighter. Many prefer this version to 35 Summicron asph)
- Leica 50 Summilux V2 (Many also prefer this to the latest summilux ASPH for its bokeh character and not as clinical)
That's a good summary I would fully agree with (and owning myself the CV 35/1.2 II for example). I would add the Leica 50/2 Summicron lens and the CV 21/1.8, too. The 35/2 Summicron V4 is not so easy to get and if so often overpriced likely due to higher demand (because the 35/2 ASPH sucks on A7 cameras). Not sure how the Leica 35/2 V4 compares with the CV 35/1.2 II, I never read a side-by-side review of those.
Some nice fast M lenses that won't break the bank (compared to the price of latest Leica lenses)
- Voightlander 35 1.2
- Voightlander Ultron 35 1.7
- Zeiss Distagon 35 1.4 ZM
- Leica 35 Summilux V2 (however wide open very soft and glowy, but can be nice for B&W)
- Leica 35 Summicron V4 (if you are looking for 35mm f2, this is cheaper, smaller, lighter. Many prefer this version to 35 Summicron asph)
- Leica 50 Summilux V2 (Many also prefer this to the latest summilux ASPH for its bokeh character and not as clinical)
That's a good summary I would fully agree with (and owning myself the CV 35/1.2 II for example). I would add the Leica 50/2 Summicron lens and the CV 21/1.8, too. The 35/2 Summicron V4 is not so easy to get and if so often overpriced likely due to higher demand (because the 35/2 ASPH sucks on A7 cameras). Not sure how the Leica 35/2 V4 compares with the CV 35/1.2 II, I never read a side-by-side review of those.
Oct 01, 2015 at 12:11 PM
p.4 #11Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
retrofocus wrote:
That's a good summary I would fully agree with (and owning myself the CV 35/1.2 II for example). I would add the Leica 50/2 Summicron lens and the CV 21/1.8, too. The 35/2 Summicron V4 is not so easy to get and if so often overpriced likely due to higher demand (because the 35/2 ASPH sucks on A7 cameras). Not sure how the Leica 35/2 V4 compares with the CV 35/1.2 II, I never read a side-by-side review of those.
the 35/2 cron v4 is not as sharp stopped down as the cv 35/1.2 (and presumably the cv 35/1.7) on an a7 (probably an m camera too). it is overpriced due to the fact that it was named the bokeh king by mike johnston a couple of decades ago after he brought the term to the english language. interestingly, it's bokeh actually sucks until you stop down to f/4 or smaller. according to leica's data the 35/1.4 lux pre-asph (called v2 of the lux by some) is actually sharper than the cron v4 in addition to selling for less these days. he lux pre-asph has more difficulty with flare though.
the 35/2 cron v1 is also very good and better built than v4 (though the same basic size).
as for the leica m 50s, all the crons are good, but the best performance for price is probably v4.
retrofocus wrote:
I normally avoid ebay for lens purchases for different reasons. I rather look at used lens items in professional stores, Amazon etc. And I didn't see such severe drop there, but I am also not eyeing on the lenses you mentioned above, so your analysis might be correct.
whether or not you buy from ebay, looking at selling prices on ebay is certainly the best way to figure out the current market value of a lens.
That's a good summary I would fully agree with (and owning myself the CV 35/1.2 II for example). I would add the Leica 50/2 Summicron lens and the CV 21/1.8, too. The 35/2 Summicron V4 is not so easy to get and if so often overpriced likely due to higher demand (because the 35/2 ASPH sucks on A7 cameras). Not sure how the Leica 35/2 V4 compares with the CV 35/1.2 II, I never read a side-by-side review of those.
the 35/2 cron v4 is not as sharp stopped down as the cv 35/1.2 (and presumably the cv 35/1.7) on an a7 (probably an m camera too). it is overpriced due to the fact that it was named the bokeh king by mike johnston a couple of decades ago after he brought the term to the english language. interestingly, it's bokeh actually sucks until you stop down to f/4 or smaller. according to leica's data the 35/1.4 lux pre-asph (called v2 of the lux by some) is actually sharper than the cron v4 in addition to selling for less these days. he lux pre-asph has more difficulty with flare though.
the 35/2 cron v1 is also very good and better built than v4 (though the same basic size).
as for the leica m 50s, all the crons are good, but the best performance for price is probably v4.
retrofocus wrote:
I normally avoid ebay for lens purchases for different reasons. I rather look at used lens items in professional stores, Amazon etc. And I didn't see such severe drop there, but I am also not eyeing on the lenses you mentioned above, so your analysis might be correct.
whether or not you buy from ebay, looking at selling prices on ebay is certainly the best way to figure out the current market value of a lens.
Oct 01, 2015 at 01:01 PM
p.4 #12Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
sebboh wrote:
the 35/2 cron v4 is not as sharp stopped down as the cv 35/1.2 (and presumably the cv 35/1.7) on an a7 (probably an m camera too). it is overpriced due to the fact that it was named the bokeh king by mike johnston a couple of decades ago after he brought the term to the english language. interestingly, it's bokeh actually sucks until you stop down to f/4 or smaller. according to leica's data the 35/1.4 lux pre-asph (called v2 of the lux by some) is actually sharper than the cron v4 in addition to selling for less these...Show more →
Good to know, thanks for the info! I find it often very hard to find out about specific performance pros and cons of Leica M lens versions.
whether or not you buy from ebay, looking at selling prices on ebay is certainly the best way to figure out the current market value of a lens.
Not always from my experience - I often find prices on ebay overpriced especially for lenses (especially when auctioned and bets go up).
the 35/2 cron v4 is not as sharp stopped down as the cv 35/1.2 (and presumably the cv 35/1.7) on an a7 (probably an m camera too). it is overpriced due to the fact that it was named the bokeh king by mike johnston a couple of decades ago after he brought the term to the english language. interestingly, it's bokeh actually sucks until you stop down to f/4 or smaller. according to leica's data the 35/1.4 lux pre-asph (called v2 of the lux by some) is actually sharper than the cron v4 in addition to selling for less these...Show more →
Good to know, thanks for the info! I find it often very hard to find out about specific performance pros and cons of Leica M lens versions.
whether or not you buy from ebay, looking at selling prices on ebay is certainly the best way to figure out the current market value of a lens.
Not always from my experience - I often find prices on ebay overpriced especially for lenses (especially when auctioned and bets go up).
Oct 01, 2015 at 01:12 PM
p.4 #13Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
retrofocus wrote:
the 35/2 cron v1 is also very good and better built than v4 (though the same basic size).Good to know, thanks for the info! I find it often very hard to find out about specific performance pros and cons of Leica M lens versions.
Not always from my experience - I often find prices on ebay overpriced especially for lenses (especially when auctioned and bets go up).
ebay is always overpriced if you look at asking prices. if you look at average price for completed auctions it tells you how much you can sell one for and what people are willing to pay. you can never go by a single sale anywhere, you need to average over time. if you can buy it cheaper at a store than the average of recent ebay sales, somebody will soon be buying it at the store and putting it on ebay.
btw jcolwell keeps a database of most slr lenses (don't think he does m-lenses) that tracks them overtime based on both ebay and shop prices i believe.
sebboh wrote
the 35/2 cron v4 is not as sharp stopped down as the cv 35/1.2 (and presumably the cv 35/1.7) on an a7 (probably an m camera too). it is overpriced due to the fact that it was named the bokeh king by mike johnston a couple of decades ago after he brought the term to the english language. interestingly, it's bokeh actually sucks until you stop down to f/4 or smaller. according to leica's data the 35/1.4 lux pre-asph (called v2 of the lux by some) is actually sharper than the cron v4 in addition to selling for less these days. The lux pre-asph has more difficulty with flare though.the 35/2 cron v1 is also very good and better built than v4 (though the same basic size).
Earlier quote
whether or not you buy from ebay, looking at selling prices on ebay is certainly the best way to figure out the current market value of a lens.ebay is always overpriced if you look at asking prices. if you look at average price for completed auctions it tells you how much you can sell one for and what people are willing to pay. you can never go by a single sale anywhere, you need to average over time. if you can buy it cheaper at a store than the average of recent ebay sales, somebody will soon be buying it at the store and putting it on ebay.
btw jcolwell keeps a database of most slr lenses (don't think he does m-lenses) that tracks them overtime based on both ebay and shop prices i believe.
Oct 01, 2015 at 01:20 PM
p.4 #14Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
tchirath wrote:
Some nice fast M lenses that won't break the bank (compared to the price of latest Leica lenses)
- Voightlander 35 1.2
- Voightlander Ultron 35 1.7
- Zeiss Distagon 35 1.4 ZM
- Leica 35 Summilux V2 (however wide open very soft and glowy, but can be nice for B&W)
- Leica 35 Summicron V4 (if you are looking for 35mm f2, this is cheaper, smaller, lighter. Many prefer this version to 35 Summicron asph)
- Leica 50 Summilux V2 (Many also prefer this to the latest summilux ASPH for its bokeh character and not as clinical)
Thank you for this!
Any recommendation for the wider side? I'm thinking of getting 28 summarit but not sure if 28 is wide enough when I'm planning to own Zeiss distagon and already-on-the-way 50 summicron.
Thank you!
Some nice fast M lenses that won't break the bank (compared to the price of latest Leica lenses)
- Voightlander 35 1.2
- Voightlander Ultron 35 1.7
- Zeiss Distagon 35 1.4 ZM
- Leica 35 Summilux V2 (however wide open very soft and glowy, but can be nice for B&W)
- Leica 35 Summicron V4 (if you are looking for 35mm f2, this is cheaper, smaller, lighter. Many prefer this version to 35 Summicron asph)
- Leica 50 Summilux V2 (Many also prefer this to the latest summilux ASPH for its bokeh character and not as clinical)
Thank you for this!
Any recommendation for the wider side? I'm thinking of getting 28 summarit but not sure if 28 is wide enough when I'm planning to own Zeiss distagon and already-on-the-way 50 summicron.
Thank you!
Oct 01, 2015 at 10:29 PM
p.4 #15Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
torakun wrote:
Thank you for this!
Any recommendation for the wider side? I'm thinking of getting 28 summarit but not sure if 28 is wide enough when I'm planning to own Zeiss distagon and already-on-the-way 50 summicron.
Thank you!
I do not know many fast wide M lenses that are reasonably priced. Like someone here mentioned Voightlander 21 1.8 could be great, but I never personally tried it.
The ultra wide M that I can personally recommend are Leica 21 3.4 Super Elmar and Zeiss Biogon 25 2.8 ZM. They are stellar performers, but may not be fast enough for some people. Of course there are Leica 21mm/24mm summilux but prices arent cheap.
Zeiss Distagon is great but a bit heavy so if you plan to get 28mm I suggest smaller ones to offer more advantage/different usage than your Zeiss other than different FL. Not sure about 28 summarit, but Leica 28 elmarit asph is great and is the smallest Leica lens you can get (even though I prefer the redendering of 28 summicron).
Thank you for this!
Any recommendation for the wider side? I'm thinking of getting 28 summarit but not sure if 28 is wide enough when I'm planning to own Zeiss distagon and already-on-the-way 50 summicron.
Thank you!
I do not know many fast wide M lenses that are reasonably priced. Like someone here mentioned Voightlander 21 1.8 could be great, but I never personally tried it.
The ultra wide M that I can personally recommend are Leica 21 3.4 Super Elmar and Zeiss Biogon 25 2.8 ZM. They are stellar performers, but may not be fast enough for some people. Of course there are Leica 21mm/24mm summilux but prices arent cheap.
Zeiss Distagon is great but a bit heavy so if you plan to get 28mm I suggest smaller ones to offer more advantage/different usage than your Zeiss other than different FL. Not sure about 28 summarit, but Leica 28 elmarit asph is great and is the smallest Leica lens you can get (even though I prefer the redendering of 28 summicron).
Oct 01, 2015 at 11:22 PM
p.4 #16Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
Voigtlander 28/1.9 is good on my A7, also I am happy with my 21/2.8 Elmarit aspheric as long as its stopped down, preferably to 8 or 11 but I wouldn't buy it just for a Sony, the Batis 25mm should be better and would cost about the same
Gerry
Gerry
Oct 02, 2015 at 02:11 AM
p.4 #17Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
torakun wrote:
Any recommendation for the wider side? I'm thinking of getting 28 summarit but not sure if 28 is wide enough when I'm planning to own Zeiss distagon and already-on-the-way 50 summicron.
Thank you!
I own 21SEM, it's pretty nice lens on special occasion, it's little bit wide for street but great for building and landscape.
I found 35mm not wide enough on street shooting or group photo, I need a little bit wide, That's why I am considering taking 28mm into my arsenal
PS. There is no 28mm in summarit family, the widest in summarit is 35mm, maybe you mean 28 elmarit f2.8
Any recommendation for the wider side? I'm thinking of getting 28 summarit but not sure if 28 is wide enough when I'm planning to own Zeiss distagon and already-on-the-way 50 summicron.
Thank you!
I own 21SEM, it's pretty nice lens on special occasion, it's little bit wide for street but great for building and landscape.
I found 35mm not wide enough on street shooting or group photo, I need a little bit wide, That's why I am considering taking 28mm into my arsenal
PS. There is no 28mm in summarit family, the widest in summarit is 35mm, maybe you mean 28 elmarit f2.8
Oct 03, 2015 at 03:05 AM
p.4 #18Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
As someone that owns both the M240 and A7RII, I wanted to have them mingle with the same lenses across the board, but in the end I wound up with a set of three lenses for the Sony (16-35/55/70-200) which totally covers my needs when I am doing work, or in a studio or working on video projects. However It's unlikely that I'll use the camera much outside that realm (unless it's for some specific project).
I absolutely prefer to work with M cameras for my personal shooting. I too have tried a number of lenses and ultimately made a dramatic simplification and I'm far happier now as a result. I'm just using an older Elmarit 28 V3 (fantastic lens BTW, has a beautiful look that's distinct from the newer version), and a V5 Summicron 50 which is my main lens now. I do still have the CV 35 1.2 but that's actually hardly used on my M bodies unless it's super dark, I mostly use it on the Sony with the excellent Voigtlander VM-E close focus adapter (the CV 35 1.2 works extremely well on that camera BTW).
What I want to stress is that with an M system, keep it simple, don't go overboard and try to accumulate a dozen lenses. A 28mm would pair exceptionally well with your 50mm, it's one of my favorite combos and addresses all my needs on the M system.
I absolutely prefer to work with M cameras for my personal shooting. I too have tried a number of lenses and ultimately made a dramatic simplification and I'm far happier now as a result. I'm just using an older Elmarit 28 V3 (fantastic lens BTW, has a beautiful look that's distinct from the newer version), and a V5 Summicron 50 which is my main lens now. I do still have the CV 35 1.2 but that's actually hardly used on my M bodies unless it's super dark, I mostly use it on the Sony with the excellent Voigtlander VM-E close focus adapter (the CV 35 1.2 works extremely well on that camera BTW).
What I want to stress is that with an M system, keep it simple, don't go overboard and try to accumulate a dozen lenses. A 28mm would pair exceptionally well with your 50mm, it's one of my favorite combos and addresses all my needs on the M system.
Oct 03, 2015 at 11:44 AM
p.4 #19Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
Arai wrote:
Thank you!I own 21SEM, it's pretty nice lens on special occasion, it's little bit wide for street but great for building and landscape.
I found 35mm not wide enough on street shooting or group photo, I need a little bit wide, That's why I am considering taking 28mm into my arsenal
PS. There is no 28mm in summarit family, the widest in summarit is 35mm, maybe you mean 28 elmarit f2.8
Correcto! hehe my mistake
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AbramG wrote:
As someone that owns both the M240 and A7RII, I wanted to have them mingle with the same lenses across the board, but in the end I wound up with a set of three lenses for the Sony (16-35/55/70-200) which totally covers my needs when I am doing work, or in a studio or working on video projects. However It's unlikely that I'll use the camera much outside that realm (unless it's for some specific project).
I absolutely prefer to work with M cameras for my personal shooting. I too have tried a number of lenses and ultimately made a...Show more →
Yes, I think 35 will be too close, for my second lens I think I will go for 28 elmarit. However, one day, the 50 cron will have to make way for 50 lux, because I find it lacking at night. I hate to push ISO above 1600..
torakun wrote
Any recommendation for the wider side? I'm thinking of getting 28 summarit but not sure if 28 is wide enough when I'm planning to own Zeiss distagon and already-on-the-way 50 summicron.Thank you!
I found 35mm not wide enough on street shooting or group photo, I need a little bit wide, That's why I am considering taking 28mm into my arsenal
PS. There is no 28mm in summarit family, the widest in summarit is 35mm, maybe you mean 28 elmarit f2.8
Correcto! hehe my mistake
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AbramG wrote:
As someone that owns both the M240 and A7RII, I wanted to have them mingle with the same lenses across the board, but in the end I wound up with a set of three lenses for the Sony (16-35/55/70-200) which totally covers my needs when I am doing work, or in a studio or working on video projects. However It's unlikely that I'll use the camera much outside that realm (unless it's for some specific project).
I absolutely prefer to work with M cameras for my personal shooting. I too have tried a number of lenses and ultimately made a...Show more →
Yes, I think 35 will be too close, for my second lens I think I will go for 28 elmarit. However, one day, the 50 cron will have to make way for 50 lux, because I find it lacking at night. I hate to push ISO above 1600..
Oct 04, 2015 at 05:02 AM
p.4 #20Sony A7RII with leica standard M lenses?
torakun wrote:
Yes, I think 35 will be too close, for my second lens I think I will go for 28 elmarit.
I loved the 28 Elmarit ASPH on M8 and M9 for it's IQ and it's size/build, but have just sold it - IQ was not nearly as nice on A7Rii. Should check it out carefully if your primary use will be on a Sony. Using the Sony 28 until I can get the Batis 25.
Yes, I think 35 will be too close, for my second lens I think I will go for 28 elmarit.
I loved the 28 Elmarit ASPH on M8 and M9 for it's IQ and it's size/build, but have just sold it - IQ was not nearly as nice on A7Rii. Should check it out carefully if your primary use will be on a Sony. Using the Sony 28 until I can get the Batis 25.
Oct 04, 2015 at 12:30 PM