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p.3 #1 · 1DX Mk II rumours...OMG....


JimmyJames wrote:
I want FF and then selective crops at 1.3 and 1.6 so I can use what is appropriate.

5DS(R) has that so maybe this point is not totally lost on Canon!
If I had such a camera it would've opened a whole bunch of interesting possibilities, as lenses that cover 1.3x image circle are common among the third-party crop offerings.



Jul 30, 2015 at 04:11 AM
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I own a 5DMIII, so 24MP is not actually a worthwhile upgrade for me, as 2MP would barely be noticeable.
I like the cropability a 22MP file gives me and, sometimes, well, I would like more.
Right now finances are not all that well so, in my particular case, justifying a considerable investment in a new camera would require a considerable upgrade in specs, MP being one of them and, well, I guess 24 would not be enough. Again, in my particular case.
28-30MP would make me consider it.
However, realistically I do not expect a lot more than 24, if at all. I expect 22mp-24mp.

I do miss higher FPS. I have been shooting a lot of karate events and those guys are insanely fast!
While I can get away with 6fps, more would be nice as, sometimes, I do miss the key moment.
Therefore, I miss having 10fps (1DMIII).
I don't need more than 10 and I do not expect canon to downgrade the 1DX sucessor in such an important spec (fps) on a sports-oriented camera, so 12FPS is more than enough for me.

A somewhat better AF would be good to have too. The 5DMIII is great but when contrast is low (low light of or strong back-light), it can struggle a little.
I would also enjoy better metering, particularly under artificial light.
Inside gyms, the fluorescent lights are tricky. I understand this affects all cameras, but if I'm not mistaken, the 1DX deals better with this fact.

Oh, and I do miss spot metering linked to AF point.
This irritates me to no end on the 5DMIII... specially because those karate dudes wear white kimonos and the background is always darker... when I use an AF point other than the center (the more distant from the center, the worse), I sometimes (or many times) get overexposed kimonos, sometimes even with blown highlights.

So I would love to own a series 1 camera again.
But the price would have to come down somewhat (back to 1DMIIn/1DMIII/1DMIV levels) and the specs would have to be a considerable upgrade to what the 1DX currently offers.
Realistically, both premises are not likely to be met.
So unless I'm wrong in my predictions, I guess my 5DMIII will have to continue doing it's thing, as I refuse to spend a considerable amount of money to go back to 18MP.



Jul 30, 2015 at 04:20 AM
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JimmyJames wrote:
I want FF and then selective crops at 1.3 and 1.6 so I can use what is appropriate.

Snopchenko wrote:
5DS(R) has that so maybe this point is not totally lost on Canon!...

Well, sort of. The full-size RAW/jpeg files are still saved for the "crop factor" modes, and so there is no increase of image capacity (before the buffer is saturated) for the crop modes. They're more like faux-crop modes.



Jul 30, 2015 at 06:00 AM
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fraga wrote:
Oh, and I do miss spot metering linked to AF point.


That is something I wish for also. I miss that option.




Jul 30, 2015 at 06:15 AM
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Ralph Thompson wrote:
Matt, you hit the nail on the head.... Now if they could only deal with the cycling lights in poorly lit gyms and football fields.....


Supposedly the 7DII has something in it that attempts to assist with the cycling but I haven't read much about how effective it actually is.
Probably will remain somewhat skeptical until it's validated.



Jul 30, 2015 at 08:39 AM
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schlotz wrote:
Supposedly the 7DII has something in it that attempts to assist with the cycling but I haven't read much about how effective it actually is.
Probably will remain somewhat skeptical until it's validated.


7D2 and 5DS have anti-flicker modes. All reports I've read say it works amazingly well and all images have same exposure and colour temps. For certain 1DXII will have it.



Jul 30, 2015 at 08:50 AM
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Hmm... interesting, any of those reports specifically dealt with action images taken at high SS?


Jul 30, 2015 at 08:57 AM
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schlotz wrote:
Supposedly the 7DII has something in it that attempts to assist with the cycling but I haven't read much about how effective it actually is.
Probably will remain somewhat skeptical until it's validated.


I have a 7d2 & the "anti flicker" while cool (has potential), it doesn't come close in poorly lit venues without a couple dozen lightheads....



Jul 30, 2015 at 01:39 PM
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jcolwell wrote:
Well, sort of. The full-size RAW/jpeg files are still saved for the "crop factor" modes, and so there is no increase of image capacity (before the buffer is saturated) for the crop modes. They're more like faux-crop modes.


I thought the point was rather to save the time it would've otherwise taken the user to crop the image when greater reach was desirable, and/or to enable the use of lenses with smaller image circle? Is that crop thing only applied later in software?



Jul 31, 2015 at 03:39 AM
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Snopchenko wrote:
... Is that crop thing only applied later in software?


In the current Canon method, yes.

I think it makes no sense. It is stupid.



Jul 31, 2015 at 07:09 AM
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jcolwell wrote:
In the current Canon method, yes.

I think it makes no sense. It is stupid.


Well... that goes into the same looney bin as the insistence on not using Mass Storage protocol for USB connection (like every other camera manufacturer out there that I know off). Canon sure can find a way of being special!



Jul 31, 2015 at 07:27 AM
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Ralph Thompson wrote:
I have a 7d2 & the "anti flicker" while cool (has potential), it doesn't come close in poorly lit venues without a couple dozen lightheads....


It's not perfect, but I get much more consistency and have to spend much less time in post. It's a great feature.



Jul 31, 2015 at 07:45 AM
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I should have said, I'm a full-time sports photographer... When I shoot on most high school football fields (in Norcal), there are not enough light heads to even out the cycling lights. High ISO isn't enough, the color temps vary from one frame to the next and sometimes from one side of the frame to the other... Most times, I used a speedlight to "fill" and to help with the color. Same thing happens inside gyms depending on what type of lights the venue has. I'm not sure any "anti flicker" would help; but it may, as the technology improves.


Jul 31, 2015 at 10:47 AM
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Direct to Instagram functionality please.


Jul 31, 2015 at 12:47 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
...However, more megapickles and more FPS is not enough to make this a desirable update to most of us shooting the 1DX.


Yes it will. Those things are what most seem to be asking for, especially the MP. I envision 80% of you'll that own the 1Dx to break down and buy the new one once the reviews are out, just as you'll did with the 1Dx. I will sit back, watch the fireworks and then I may go ahead and get a used 1Dx.

Just One Man's Opinion.




Jul 31, 2015 at 02:26 PM
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I believe the 1Dx2 will have significant upgrade which match canon habbit in the recent development. I will change my 1Dx to 1Dx2 once it launch anyway


Jul 31, 2015 at 03:31 PM
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Methodical wrote:
Yes it will. Those things are what most seem to be asking for, especially the MP. I envision 80% of you'll that own the 1Dx to break down and buy the new one once the reviews are out, just as you'll did with the 1Dx. I will sit back, watch the fireworks and then I may go ahead and get a used 1Dx.


I would have to see a significant boost in high ISO IQ for me to even bite. 18MP and 12FPS is not really limiting me in any way especially with a 7D2 as a companion body. 1.5-2 stop advantage at high ISO would get my cc out though. Problem is that may not be realistic if it goes up to 24MP.



Jul 31, 2015 at 04:10 PM
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Methodical wrote:
I will sit back, watch the fireworks and then I may go ahead and get a used 1Dx.

Just One Man's Opinion.



This is what I'm waiting on. The price to drop out when the X2 is announced.



Jul 31, 2015 at 04:19 PM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Actually for wildlife a silent shutter is a big deal. I can see that birds always are startled by the 1DX's shutter if I'm in close. When I switch to S mode they don't respond. The 5D III silent shutter is better than the 1DX's. I hope thye can offer a high speed silent shutter option even if it is only say 6fps..


Yep silent shutter similar to the 5D3 would be most welcome.



Jul 31, 2015 at 04:37 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
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I guess for me the problem is I bought a 1D4 when it was already getting long in the tooth. I loved the FPS and that drove me towards a 1DX but I never loved anything else about the camera. I don't like the AF points on it and I didn't find the IQ to be as good as my 5D3 and no where near the 1DX.

If Canon could give us a 1.3 crop with IQ that matches the current 1DX then I would also see benefit from the crop factor...but not sure if they can and I'm fairly sure
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I recently sold my 5D3 and picked up a 1D4. 5D3 has better image quality but for wildlife the 10 fps of the 1D4 has been far more useful to me than the 6fps of the 5D3. I could see getting a 1DX2 if the mpx were sufficient to equal cropping depth/pixel density of the 1D4 but with much better noise handling of a full frame sensor.






Jul 31, 2015 at 04:46 PM
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