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p.12 #1 · Announced: Sony A7R II




alundeb wrote:
There are so many things to like about those specs, so I think I would dare to mention what I don't like:

The price and the weight are approaching 5DS territory.

The weight is very much what should have been expected. Just 26g more than the A7 II.



Jun 10, 2015 at 06:55 PM
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p.12 #2 · Announced: Sony A7R II


Alexluu627 wrote:
Yikes this makes me regret buying the Nikon 2 days ago haha oh well it will last me till August and then I'll replace it with this nice awesome camera. 55mm and 85mm is gonna be a beast on this camera. Also who needs the Sony 24-70 f4 when you can grab the canon 24-70 mark ii and actually af on this camera now. My mind is blown lol! I am sorry for the people grabbing the 5dsr, this camera is just 5 times better. Can't say much until we see samples, but the original a7r already out performed the
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And don't forget.... the canon 24-70 2.8 ii on this body will also have image stabilization.



Jun 10, 2015 at 06:55 PM
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p.12 #3 · Announced: Sony A7R II


Get the a7 II. The price for a used one should start dropping soon. The price is right, 24MP is plenty, and you also get IBIS!

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Yes they are! I've tried the EM-1 and EM-5 Mk II and the viewfinders are great but I do want to add a FF mirrorless to my kit simply because I've got around 8 or 9 (maybe more?) legacy lenses I want to use

This looks great, if I can find the funds or wait for a while till the price drops a bit.





Jun 10, 2015 at 07:00 PM
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p.12 #4 · Announced: Sony A7R II


I would be interested to know about the RAW files as well.

molson wrote:
No mention of whether or not the files are still 11-bit compressed JRAW format,


snowboarder wrote:
They have listened to every complaint.








Jun 10, 2015 at 07:02 PM
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p.12 #5 · Announced: Sony A7R II


Bummer...

Jonas B wrote:
molson: The RAW format is still ARW 2.3. That is the same as all A7 cameras (according to specifications)





Jun 10, 2015 at 07:06 PM
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p.12 #6 · Announced: Sony A7R II


buggz2k wrote:
I would be interested to know about the RAW files as well.





It was confirmed via Sony that the new A7rII still uses raw compression.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1369893/7#13053601

Edit: That should say "still uses lossy raw"



Edited on Jun 10, 2015 at 09:49 PM · View previous versions



Jun 10, 2015 at 07:09 PM
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Tariq Gibran wrote:
I guess I'm one of the few that finds the initial price a bit silly at almost 1K over the model it's replacing at introduction. This price is what I expected the "Pro" E-mount model to go for - and this is not it (you can be assured there will be a model above this one, A9 (or whatever it is to be called).

I felt the same just didn't say anything



Jun 10, 2015 at 07:15 PM
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p.12 #8 · Announced: Sony A7R II


Tariq Gibran wrote:
I guess I'm one of the few that finds the initial price a bit silly at almost 1K over the model it's replacing at introduction. This price is what I expected the "Pro" E-mount model to go for - and this is not it (you can be assured there will be a model above this one, A9 (or whatever it is to be called).



Still, I bet you almost anything that it would sell like hot cakes. One hesitation I have is the looming price drop after Sony employees get their hands on this camera for 50% off and sell them on the B&S board for 25% off. From what I could gather/understand, they can do that after 2-3 months after a new product is available. So, figure 3-4 months from August, before Christmas or so, this camera will be offered for sale for around $2,500 or so.



Jun 10, 2015 at 07:24 PM
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Dpedraza wrote:
I felt the same just didn't say anything


Price will drop so I'm not too worried about it. My A7s still serves me well. And Sony tends to have the trade-in discount deal within a month or two of launch so I'll wait for that. I got my A7s for $2100 new from Amazon and it took 6 months later for the used market to match that price.



Jun 10, 2015 at 07:26 PM
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p.12 #10 · Announced: Sony A7R II


Just imagine 15,000 shots the 42 megapixel camera, I shot 6000 in Europe with my A7r which took up most of a 2 GB drive. I'm also looking forward to being able to access Sony's Pro service with the addition of the new A7r2.


Jun 10, 2015 at 07:27 PM
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I am stunned! I only bought My a7s in February and now I almost whish I didn't. Btw I needed a camera for my daughter's birth anyway.

Price tag is a little bit high.

Zeiss coating on the sensor, it means all vintage lenses get it!

Hopefully the silent shutter won't give banding under artificial lighting

8 additional lenses coming before 2016!!



Jun 10, 2015 at 07:34 PM
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p.12 #12 · Announced: Sony A7R II


balga wrote:
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Zeiss coating on the sensor, it means all vintage lenses get it!
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I think you mean EVF




Jun 10, 2015 at 07:42 PM
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p.12 #13 · Announced: Sony A7R II


I should wait for that then.

AGeoJO wrote:
Still, I bet you almost anything that it would sell like hot cakes. One hesitation I have is the looming price drop after Sony employees get their hands on this camera for 50% off and sell them on the B&S board for 25% off. From what I could gather/understand, they can do that after 2-3 months after a new product is available. So, figure 3-4 months from August, before Christmas or so, this camera will be offered for sale for around $2,500 or so.





Jun 10, 2015 at 07:48 PM
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p.12 #14 · Announced: Sony A7R II


I'm mostly interested in the BSI sensor. It could substantially improve performance with wide-angle lenses, although it would need to be paired with a complementary filter stack. I suspect that the raw compression and Sony color palette will keep me away, but I'm still looking forward to some guilty-pleasure pixel peeping.

Cheers,
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Jun 10, 2015 at 07:51 PM
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p.12 #15 · Announced: Sony A7R II


Does anybody know whether Sony changed or will be changing the EVF and monitor setup in this new camera? I hope that they will be incorporating an automatic switch to the monitor if the monitor is in the flipped open position rather than having to go the menu for to switch between the monitor and EVF back and forth. I did search for it but couldn't find anything to this aspect .


Jun 10, 2015 at 07:52 PM
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p.12 #16 · Announced: Sony A7R II


bobbytan wrote:
I should wait for that then.



Yeah, that seems to be the way to play the Sony game . If you have the patience then more power to you and you can save $800 or so. But knowing myself and my weakness chances are, I will have to pay the full price, I am afraid . Oh, well, we live only once.




Jun 10, 2015 at 07:57 PM
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p.12 #17 · Announced: Sony A7R II


dennishh wrote:
Just imagine 15,000 shots the 42 megapixel camera, I shot 6000 in Europe with my A7r which took up most of a 2 GB drive. I'm also looking forward to being able to access Sony's Pro service with the addition of the new A7r2.


There is no way I need or want 42mp for most of my images. It may be heresy to admit this but I could see myself shooting medium or even small jpeg files with this camera regularly.

The ability to have 18mp images in crop mode is pretty sweet though.

I am most interested to see if the claims of AF with the Metabones adapter and EF lenses is as good as initial reports are claiming - this would be a game changer for many.



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Jun 10, 2015 at 08:04 PM
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p.12 #18 · Announced: Sony A7R II


Does anyone here know if Sony have tweaked their RAW engine or not? It was rumored that Sony was going to make some changes, but I have seen no evidence of that in the press release. Quite frankly I think it's ridiculous for Sony to claim 14-bit RAW when they compress their RAW files.

I just don't understand why Sony doesn't provide more aspect ratio options in their FF cameras while their RX series continues to have support for 4:3 and 1:1 options.

Other than that, I am interested in picking up an a7R II later this year. $3200 is quite reasonable compared to what Canon is offering with the 5DS.

Now if only Sony work harder and faster in expanding their lens lineup. I'm anxiously waiting for a future FE 70-300mm/70-400mm weather sealed pro-grade lens.



Jun 10, 2015 at 08:05 PM
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p.12 #19 · Announced: Sony A7R II


I'm actually glad it's $3,200. Because that way I still feel good about my A7 II purchase. No way I can swing $3K+ on a body, so picking up the A7 II when it went on sale a few weeks ago still feels nice. If it were $2200 or so, I'd be SO regretting that purchase. The A7R II looks really, really good.


Jun 10, 2015 at 08:19 PM
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p.12 #20 · Announced: Sony A7R II


Uncompressed RAW is *not* what we want -- or, more precisely, it would be a lame second-best option.

What is absolutely required for critical work are (1) fixing the bit depth reduction in many shooting modes, including bracketed exposures, (2) fixing the tone curve so that it's at least linear in the shadows, and (3) wrapping this up in a *losslessly* compressed format.

The A7rII specs say that the RAW format is ARW 2.3, the same flawed lossy format used on the NEX/A7 bodies. So I am doubtful that any of these problems have been fixed. The meta-problem of Sony not fixing it has also not been fixed. What a bummer.



Jun 10, 2015 at 09:08 PM
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