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p.9 #1A7rII rumour
mcbroomf wrote:
Just noticed that SAR updated their site saying that the release date isn't so close after all, just sometime this year ... still a 50MP sensor though (not 36MP in a an A7II body).
Just remember it's a rumor website
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-a-correction-and-a-confirmation-about-the-sony-50mp-camera/
Actually that's not quite right.
It's true that he thinks the 50MP body will come later this year, rather than soon.
But he says there is ALSO a 36MP A7rMkII (i.e. 36MP in an A7II body) camera already in production which will be released in a few weeks...
Just noticed that SAR updated their site saying that the release date isn't so close after all, just sometime this year ... still a 50MP sensor though (not 36MP in a an A7II body).
Just remember it's a rumor website
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-a-correction-and-a-confirmation-about-the-sony-50mp-camera/
Actually that's not quite right.
It's true that he thinks the 50MP body will come later this year, rather than soon.
But he says there is ALSO a 36MP A7rMkII (i.e. 36MP in an A7II body) camera already in production which will be released in a few weeks...
Mar 23, 2015 at 03:03 PM
p.9 #2A7rII rumour
DavidBM wrote:
Just remember it's a rumor website
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-a-correction-and-a-confirmation-about-the-sony-50mp-camera/Actually that's not quite right.
It's true that he thinks the 50MP body will come later this year, rather than soon.
But he says there is ALSO a 36MP A7rMkII (i.e. 36MP in an A7II body) camera already in production which will be released in a few weeks...
Oh yes you're right. I missed the last sentence below the main paragraph
"Another good news: Confirmed the A7rII is in production and coming damn soon!"
mcbroomf wrote
Just noticed that SAR updated their site saying that the release date isn't so close after all, just sometime this year ... still a 50MP sensor though (not 36MP in a an A7II body).Just remember it's a rumor website
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-a-correction-and-a-confirmation-about-the-sony-50mp-camera/
It's true that he thinks the 50MP body will come later this year, rather than soon.
But he says there is ALSO a 36MP A7rMkII (i.e. 36MP in an A7II body) camera already in production which will be released in a few weeks...
Oh yes you're right. I missed the last sentence below the main paragraph
"Another good news: Confirmed the A7rII is in production and coming damn soon!"
Mar 23, 2015 at 04:00 PM
p.9 #3A7rII rumour
Do you think that means the A7rII will be at the stores in April?
EBH
EBH
Mar 23, 2015 at 09:28 PM
p.9 #4A7rII rumour
EB-1 wrote:
Do you think that means the A7rII will be at the stores in April?
EBH
Who knows with Sony!
I we suppose Andrea is right that production is under way, and that there will be an announcement in a couple of weeks if you are super lucky they might ship right away, but more likely a month. So I reckon mid to end May is the closest realistically. I hope by then: I've got never to be repeated trip inJune I'd love the new body for.
But....who know with Sony! I seem to recall the A7II appearing pretty quickly post announcement!
Do you think that means the A7rII will be at the stores in April?
EBH
Who knows with Sony!
I we suppose Andrea is right that production is under way, and that there will be an announcement in a couple of weeks if you are super lucky they might ship right away, but more likely a month. So I reckon mid to end May is the closest realistically. I hope by then: I've got never to be repeated trip inJune I'd love the new body for.
But....who know with Sony! I seem to recall the A7II appearing pretty quickly post announcement!
Mar 23, 2015 at 11:20 PM
p.9 #5A7rII rumour
(SR4) More A7rII launch confirmations and (SR3) specs (Has same 36MP A7r sensor?)
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/first-possible-sony-a7r-specs
The new Sony A7rII will be announced after the NAB show and have (take that as SR3):
– It has the same A7r 36 megapixel sensor
– Improved high ISO (thanks to the improved processor)
– Faster autofocusing
– 5 axis stabilization (exactly the same system used by the A7II).
- Similar A7II sized body
- Same EVF and LCD
- Shutter silent mode (and overall a bit more silent shutter)
The A9 E-mount PRO camera is due for a later release than expected/hoped....probably coming second half of the year only...
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/first-possible-sony-a7r-specs
The new Sony A7rII will be announced after the NAB show and have (take that as SR3):
– It has the same A7r 36 megapixel sensor
– Improved high ISO (thanks to the improved processor)
– Faster autofocusing
– 5 axis stabilization (exactly the same system used by the A7II).
- Similar A7II sized body
- Same EVF and LCD
- Shutter silent mode (and overall a bit more silent shutter)
The A9 E-mount PRO camera is due for a later release than expected/hoped....probably coming second half of the year only...
Mar 24, 2015 at 05:25 AM
p.9 #6A7rII rumour
Reminds me a bit on 2012, when Canon decided to launch the 5D MkIII which had the same sensor as in the MkII just with improved high ISO algorithms.
I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).
I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).
Mar 24, 2015 at 05:37 AM
p.9 #7A7rII rumour
Fair enough; but same sensor is fine with me. I have had no images ruined by the wonderful a7r sensor. But I have had them ruined bynshutternshock ( so EFCS isngood news) and camera shake (IBIS) Exactly the upgrades I want, And with the improved ergo and (I suspect only slightly) improved autofocus thrown in I'll be very happy...
Mar 24, 2015 at 06:05 AM
p.9 #8A7rII rumour
retrofocus wrote:
Reminds me a bit on 2012, when Canon decided to launch the 5D MkIII which had the same sensor as in the MkII just with improved high ISO algorithms.
I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me
The 5D3 sensor was not the same as the 5D2, the pixel count changed to be exactly 3 x as wide as an HD video frame (1920x1080), this was combined with 3x binning of pixels in hardware for much cleaner low light video with less aliasing. There were probably other changes in the pixel structure and readout circuitry as they greatly reduced shadow banding in one axis (you got more regular banding instead of tartan). Also you can't increase the RAW signal to noise ratio with "algorithms".
retrofocus wrote:
I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise).
If the A7ʀ II is just the original A7ʀ sensor in the A7II body I'll probably upgrade eventually once the price has fallen as stabilisation will be useful for me in some situations.
If it's the D810 sensor with ISO64 and EFCS then I'll upgrade much sooner.
Reminds me a bit on 2012, when Canon decided to launch the 5D MkIII which had the same sensor as in the MkII just with improved high ISO algorithms.
I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me
The 5D3 sensor was not the same as the 5D2, the pixel count changed to be exactly 3 x as wide as an HD video frame (1920x1080), this was combined with 3x binning of pixels in hardware for much cleaner low light video with less aliasing. There were probably other changes in the pixel structure and readout circuitry as they greatly reduced shadow banding in one axis (you got more regular banding instead of tartan). Also you can't increase the RAW signal to noise ratio with "algorithms".
retrofocus wrote:
I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise).
If the A7ʀ II is just the original A7ʀ sensor in the A7II body I'll probably upgrade eventually once the price has fallen as stabilisation will be useful for me in some situations.
If it's the D810 sensor with ISO64 and EFCS then I'll upgrade much sooner.
Mar 24, 2015 at 06:11 AM
p.9 #9A7rII rumour
If these specs are accurate then they give me plenty reason to upgrade.
1. A "silent" shutter mode will be very much appreciated and welcome.
2. IBIS will be great with my manual-focus Canon-mount Zeiss lenses. This is particularly true for longer lenses like the Apo Sonnar 2/135mm ZE. Not only will IBIS permit slower shutter speeds, but the focusing experience will hopefully be better (I find longer focal lengths can be very jittery in the EVF when handheld shooting).
3. I like what Sony did with the a7 II body: more substantial and better shutter button placement.
4. Improved high ISO performance would be terrific.
I am a little curious about the timing of the a7R II release. In late 2013 the a7 and a7R were released simultaneoulsly; wonder why Sony has elected to stagger the release this time.
1. A "silent" shutter mode will be very much appreciated and welcome.
2. IBIS will be great with my manual-focus Canon-mount Zeiss lenses. This is particularly true for longer lenses like the Apo Sonnar 2/135mm ZE. Not only will IBIS permit slower shutter speeds, but the focusing experience will hopefully be better (I find longer focal lengths can be very jittery in the EVF when handheld shooting).
3. I like what Sony did with the a7 II body: more substantial and better shutter button placement.
4. Improved high ISO performance would be terrific.
I am a little curious about the timing of the a7R II release. In late 2013 the a7 and a7R were released simultaneoulsly; wonder why Sony has elected to stagger the release this time.
Mar 24, 2015 at 06:24 AM
p.9 #10A7rII rumour
Matt Grum wrote:
I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for meThe 5D3 sensor was not the same as the 5D2, the pixel count changed to be exactly 3 x as wide as an HD video frame (1920x1080), this was combined with 3x binning of pixels in hardware for much cleaner low light video with less aliasing. There were probably other changes in the pixel structure and readout circuitry as they greatly reduced shadow banding in one axis (you got more regular banding instead of tartan). Also you can't increase the RAW signal to noise ratio with "algorithms".
If the A7ʀ II is just the original A7ʀ sensor in the A7II...Show more →
We can fight now over marginal details in video mode, at low /normal ISO the 5D MkII and the MkIII sensors were the same, no difference which is well described and also my experience when comparing both cameras side-by-side. For me it was all but no new sensor in the 5D MkIII even if minor incremental changes were made.
retrofocus wrote
Reminds me a bit on 2012, when Canon decided to launch the 5D MkIII which had the same sensor as in the MkII just with improved high ISO algorithms.I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me
retrofocus wrote
I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise).We can fight now over marginal details in video mode, at low /normal ISO the 5D MkII and the MkIII sensors were the same, no difference which is well described and also my experience when comparing both cameras side-by-side. For me it was all but no new sensor in the 5D MkIII even if minor incremental changes were made.
Mar 24, 2015 at 06:41 AM
p.9 #11A7rII rumour
Looks like my wallet will be happy until the fall, at which time I will decide between the "a9" and the Pentax FF offering. The only thing that would sway me with this new offering might be a combination of EFCS and lossless raw.
Mar 24, 2015 at 06:46 AM
p.9 #12A7rII rumour
retrofocus wrote:
Reminds me a bit on 2012, when Canon decided to launch the 5D MkIII which had the same sensor as in the MkII just with improved high ISO algorithms.
I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter...Show more →
I skipped the a7r (actually used and let go early on) because I figured I'd be more interested in the v2 - but honestly, the rumored specs aren't enough for me, especially until I hear the specs for the a9.
Reminds me a bit on 2012, when Canon decided to launch the 5D MkIII which had the same sensor as in the MkII just with improved high ISO algorithms.
I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter...Show more →
I skipped the a7r (actually used and let go early on) because I figured I'd be more interested in the v2 - but honestly, the rumored specs aren't enough for me, especially until I hear the specs for the a9.
Mar 24, 2015 at 07:06 AM
p.9 #13A7rII rumour
ecarlino wrote:
I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).I skipped the a7r (actually used and let go early on) because I figured I'd be more interested in the v2 - but honestly, the rumored specs aren't enough for me, especially until I hear the specs for the a9.
Thats totally understandable - the improvements in the A7R II might be valuable for some and not sufficient enough to upgrade or purchase for others. I expect the A9 not before fall this year, but I have no issue being patient since the A7R is an excellent tool in my box.
retrofocus wrote
Reminds me a bit on 2012, when Canon decided to launch the 5D MkIII which had the same sensor as in the MkII just with improved high ISO algorithms.I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).
Thats totally understandable - the improvements in the A7R II might be valuable for some and not sufficient enough to upgrade or purchase for others. I expect the A9 not before fall this year, but I have no issue being patient since the A7R is an excellent tool in my box.
Mar 24, 2015 at 08:10 AM
p.9 #14A7rII rumour
retrofocus wrote:
I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).I skipped the a7r (actually used and let go early on) because I figured I'd be more interested in the v2 - but honestly, the rumored specs aren't enough for me, especially until I hear the specs for the a9.Thats totally understandable - the improvements in the A7R II might be valuable for some and not sufficient enough to upgrade or purchase for others. I expect the A9 not before fall this year, but I have no issue being patient since the A7R is an excellent tool in my box.
I just hope that the A7 and the A7r are not the end of the line to have the sensor stack modified to a thin stack for the purpose of using M-mount and film SLR/DSLR lenses for optimum performance on a high resolution digital sensor.
Rich
ecarlino wrote
retrofocus wrote
Reminds me a bit on 2012, when Canon decided to launch the 5D MkIII which had the same sensor as in the MkII just with improved high ISO algorithms.I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).
I just hope that the A7 and the A7r are not the end of the line to have the sensor stack modified to a thin stack for the purpose of using M-mount and film SLR/DSLR lenses for optimum performance on a high resolution digital sensor.
Rich
Mar 24, 2015 at 08:44 AM
p.9 #15A7rII rumour
serhan_ wrote:
The new Sony A7rII will be announced after the NAB show and have (take that as SR3):
– It has the same A7r 36 megapixel sensor
– Improved high ISO (thanks to the improved processor)
– Faster autofocusing
– 5 axis stabilization (exactly the same system used by the A7II).
- Similar A7II sized body
- Same EVF and LCD
- Shutter silent mode (and overall a bit more silent shutter)
..
If by 'silent shutter' they mean EFCS, then it can't be the same sensor of the A7r, which has no EFCS capabilities. Should be the sensor of the Nikon D810 instead.
Of course, it's also possible that the 'old' A7r couldn't have EFCS because the processor was too slow for 36mp, and now there's an improved processor which can handle that.. but my bet is on a new 36mp sensor.
The new Sony A7rII will be announced after the NAB show and have (take that as SR3):
– It has the same A7r 36 megapixel sensor
– Improved high ISO (thanks to the improved processor)
– Faster autofocusing
– 5 axis stabilization (exactly the same system used by the A7II).
- Similar A7II sized body
- Same EVF and LCD
- Shutter silent mode (and overall a bit more silent shutter)
..
If by 'silent shutter' they mean EFCS, then it can't be the same sensor of the A7r, which has no EFCS capabilities. Should be the sensor of the Nikon D810 instead.
Of course, it's also possible that the 'old' A7r couldn't have EFCS because the processor was too slow for 36mp, and now there's an improved processor which can handle that.. but my bet is on a new 36mp sensor.
Mar 24, 2015 at 09:11 AM
p.9 #16A7rII rumour
naturephoto1 wrote:
I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).I skipped the a7r (actually used and let go early on) because I figured I'd be more interested in the v2 - but honestly, the rumored specs aren't enough for me, especially until I hear the specs for the a9.Thats totally understandable - the improvements in the A7R II might be valuable for some and not sufficient enough to upgrade or purchase for others. I expect the A9 not before fall this year, but I have no issue being patient since the A7R is an excellent tool in my box.I just hope that the A7 and the A7r are not the end of the line to have the sensor stack modified to a thin stack for the purpose of using M-mount and film SLR/DSLR lenses for optimum performance on a high resolution digital sensor.
Rich
Rich, I bet Ilija is working on accommodating the thin stack onto those IBIS cameras. That's why we need to generate as much publicity for this mod and generate some more incoming orders for the guy.
retrofocus wrote
ecarlino wrote
retrofocus wrote
Reminds me a bit on 2012, when Canon decided to launch the 5D MkIII which had the same sensor as in the MkII just with improved high ISO algorithms.I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).
Rich
Rich, I bet Ilija is working on accommodating the thin stack onto those IBIS cameras. That's why we need to generate as much publicity for this mod and generate some more incoming orders for the guy.
Mar 24, 2015 at 09:25 AM
p.9 #17A7rII rumour
artur5 wrote:
If by 'silent shutter' they mean EFCS, then it can't be the same sensor of the A7r, which has no EFCS capabilities. Should be the sensor of the Nikon D810 instead.
The definition of what is the "same sensor" varies considerably it would seem. To some any 36MP AA filterless sensor from Sony is the "same sensor" as in the original A7ʀ.
If by 'silent shutter' they mean EFCS, then it can't be the same sensor of the A7r, which has no EFCS capabilities. Should be the sensor of the Nikon D810 instead.
The definition of what is the "same sensor" varies considerably it would seem. To some any 36MP AA filterless sensor from Sony is the "same sensor" as in the original A7ʀ.
Mar 24, 2015 at 10:05 AM
p.9 #18A7rII rumour
naturephoto1 wrote:
I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).I skipped the a7r (actually used and let go early on) because I figured I'd be more interested in the v2 - but honestly, the rumored specs aren't enough for me, especially until I hear the specs for the a9.Thats totally understandable - the improvements in the A7R II might be valuable for some and not sufficient enough to upgrade or purchase for others. I expect the A9 not before fall this year, but I have no issue being patient since the A7R is an excellent tool in my box.I just hope that the A7 and the A7r are not the end of the line to have the sensor stack modified to a thin stack for the purpose of using M-mount and film SLR/DSLR lenses for optimum performance on a high resolution digital sensor.
Rich
My thoughts also....but I don't think that we rangefinder users are currently a priority for Sony....Sony focuses on other areas of improvement currently seen in the specs of the A7 II and A7R II.
retrofocus wrote
ecarlino wrote
retrofocus wrote
Reminds me a bit on 2012, when Canon decided to launch the 5D MkIII which had the same sensor as in the MkII just with improved high ISO algorithms.I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).
Rich
My thoughts also....but I don't think that we rangefinder users are currently a priority for Sony....Sony focuses on other areas of improvement currently seen in the specs of the A7 II and A7R II.
Mar 24, 2015 at 11:17 AM
p.9 #19A7rII rumour
retrofocus wrote:
I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).I skipped the a7r (actually used and let go early on) because I figured I'd be more interested in the v2 - but honestly, the rumored specs aren't enough for me, especially until I hear the specs for the a9.Thats totally understandable - the improvements in the A7R II might be valuable for some and not sufficient enough to upgrade or purchase for others. I expect the A9 not before fall this year, but I have no issue being patient since the A7R is an excellent tool in my box.
after a decade of being first in line for every new Nikon body (the guys at Helix in Chicago are gone, but always hooked me up) it's sort of been nice having the optionality to start fresh - and I'm now even open to the idea that while the a7r left my stable early on, I may go back and given the discounted prices on it soon to be headed our way, the annoyances may seem very minor in light of the lower prices. similarly, the 35/2.8 is looking pretty sweet - especially given the possibility of ordering from Canada, given the USD strength at the moment.
I'm actually thinking of just renting cameras for trips for the next year or two and not actually owning anything but maybe something to have around for family stuff.
once the a9 specs are known along with the next one or two sony roadmaps, I think it will be a lot easier to decide between going "all in" on the FE mount or heading back to the F mount.
ecarlino wrote
retrofocus wrote
Reminds me a bit on 2012, when Canon decided to launch the 5D MkIII which had the same sensor as in the MkII just with improved high ISO algorithms.I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).
after a decade of being first in line for every new Nikon body (the guys at Helix in Chicago are gone, but always hooked me up) it's sort of been nice having the optionality to start fresh - and I'm now even open to the idea that while the a7r left my stable early on, I may go back and given the discounted prices on it soon to be headed our way, the annoyances may seem very minor in light of the lower prices. similarly, the 35/2.8 is looking pretty sweet - especially given the possibility of ordering from Canada, given the USD strength at the moment.
I'm actually thinking of just renting cameras for trips for the next year or two and not actually owning anything but maybe something to have around for family stuff.
once the a9 specs are known along with the next one or two sony roadmaps, I think it will be a lot easier to decide between going "all in" on the FE mount or heading back to the F mount.
Mar 24, 2015 at 12:09 PM
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ecarlino wrote:
I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).I skipped the a7r (actually used and let go early on) because I figured I'd be more interested in the v2 - but honestly, the rumored specs aren't enough for me, especially until I hear the specs for the a9.Thats totally understandable - the improvements in the A7R II might be valuable for some and not sufficient enough to upgrade or purchase for others. I expect the A9 not before fall this year, but I have no issue being patient since the A7R is an excellent tool in my box.after a decade of being first in line for every new Nikon body (the guys at Helix in Chicago are gone, but always hooked me up) it's sort of been nice having the optionality to start fresh - and I'm now even open to the idea that while the a7r left my stable early on, I may go back and given the discounted prices on it soon to be headed our way, the annoyances may seem very minor in light of the lower prices. similarly, the 35/2.8 is looking pretty sweet - especially given the possibility of ordering from Canada,...Show more →
Yes, the A7 bodies get very affordable! I expected it when I bought my A7R new in March 2014. Normally I jump over 1-2 camera generations before vesting into a newer body anyway especially if I regard an upgraded camera more incremental for my needs. I tested the 35/2.8 FE lens since a friend of mine also bought the A7R more recently together with this lens. The lens is optically very good, and the low weight would make it excellent for travel. Personally, I didn't like its cheaper lens built design ("plastic fantastic" sort of). My buddy also felt the same way and sold this lens to get a Zeiss M lens instead. Renting might be a good option to see how this system works for you.
retrofocus wrote
ecarlino wrote
retrofocus wrote
Reminds me a bit on 2012, when Canon decided to launch the 5D MkIII which had the same sensor as in the MkII just with improved high ISO algorithms.I say the same here what I said in 2012 in the Canon forum - a clear skip for me, I will stick to my A7R for now (main reason due to no difference sensor-wise). For some the improved periphery in the A7R II might be advantageous enough to upgrade (maybe especially when using the camera with FE lenses due to improved AF and 5-axis IBIS). It also sounds like "shutter silent mode" is not the same as full electronic shutter.
The A9 will be more of interest for sure IMO....obvious why Sony takes its time with the A9 release - no mirrorless FF competition out there, waiting first what Canon's 5Ds(R) cameras will bring after they are released, and keeping enough time between the A7R II and A9 release to avoid internal competition between the two models (to avoid low sales of the A7R II).
Yes, the A7 bodies get very affordable! I expected it when I bought my A7R new in March 2014. Normally I jump over 1-2 camera generations before vesting into a newer body anyway especially if I regard an upgraded camera more incremental for my needs. I tested the 35/2.8 FE lens since a friend of mine also bought the A7R more recently together with this lens. The lens is optically very good, and the low weight would make it excellent for travel. Personally, I didn't like its cheaper lens built design ("plastic fantastic" sort of). My buddy also felt the same way and sold this lens to get a Zeiss M lens instead. Renting might be a good option to see how this system works for you.
Mar 24, 2015 at 12:39 PM