I would mostly just like a clean 6400 ISO, 12800 would be a bonus. Any increase in DR would be nice but not earth shattering. I spent a year with a D800. DR is fun and useful but not make or break for me. High megapixels are also meaningless to me. The Sony A7S nearly makes me happy, barring the horrible AF and 8bit video, 4k with a $2000 shogun What? No thank you.
ggreene wrote:
Given that the 5D3 was a huge success and the 7D2 looks like a very impressive camera that will sell well also, I would say Canon has user demand calculated fairly well. I'd like to see a little more resolution but I don't expect "super high" resolution. It would be nice to see them boost the digic chips so that they could handle 12FPS at 27MP. That is what I'm really looking for.
Not to forget 6D, which looks as succesfull like 5D III to me (here in germany).
Next to that Amazon (germany) listed D750 as the follow up of D800, while D810 is not listed.
Could this mean, that there is no longer any need for a 24 + MP body?
StillFingerz wrote:
So many with their panties in a bunch, Canon will do whatever they like. And anyone that claims to have any idea of Canon sales is speaking out their own behinds; pure shite
True. True.
The only information available is Canon's quarterly and annual reports and the powerpoints for the market presentations when these reports are released. You can find them on Canon's investor relations web pages.
Each of Canon's reports claims for Canon the top position in the world in DSLR/Interchangeable Lens Digital Cameras (ILDC)
The format of each line is year over year growth in digital camera units, year over year growth in DSLR/ILDC). Percentage of digital camera units sold and value of DSLR/ILDC.
Year over year compares the same period the previous year with the current year.
The 2011 annual report records a -4% growth year over year in digital camera units sold. DSLRs were 28% of the units sold and 71% of the value.
1Q12 saw a +4% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. DSLRs were 28% of the units and 73% of the value.
2Q12 showed a +35% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC had a +47% y/y growth in units sold. ILDC were 31% of the units and 75% of the value.
3Q12 showed a -17% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -7% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 33% of units and 79% of the value.
4Q12 showed a -3% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were +14% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 32% of units and 77% of value.
1Q13 had a -31% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -15% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 35% of units and 81% of value.
2Q13 had a -19% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -4% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 36% of the units and 80% of value.
3Q13 had a -22% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -3% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 41% of the units and 83% of value.
4Q13 had a -16% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -6% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 35% of the units and 81% of the value.
1Q14 had a -22% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -7% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 41% of the units and 83% of the value.
2Q14 had a -31% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -19% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 42% of the units and 82% of the value.
i.e., the last year over year growth in DSLR/ILDC was recorded in 4Q12.
The digital camera business as a whole is certainly rapidly declining.
The DSLR/ILDC business is in slow decline. Can Canon put out new product in DSLR/ILDC to lure new customers and upgrade customers?
To put the numbers in perspective, for each 100 DSLRs Canon sold in 2Q11, Canon sold 147 in 2Q12, 141 in 2Q13 and 114 in 2Q14.
If we do the same exercise for the first quarter of the year, for each 100 DSLRs Canon sold in 1Q11, it sold 104 in 1Q12, 88 in 1Q13 and 82 in 1Q14.
Sneakyracer wrote:
Psychic, don't turn into Houdini and disappear all of the sudden. C'mon and face the music. Don't worry well be nice.
Ken, I have been sitting back and enjoying the show.
I have learned not to defind my position if I want the thread to keep going and I was shocked at the number of unique hit my website received after the interview.
If FM derives financial benefits from the number of hits then, after proven deadly accurate with my 1DsX prediction I will make another one far more wide reaching.
I will be joining my wife for dinner while a Canadian sniffs glue.
The only information available is Canon's quarterly and annual reports and the powerpoints for the market presentations when these reports are released. You can find them on Canon's investor relations web pages.
Interesting read, thanks for culling the data for us!
Psychic1 wrote:
" If FM derives financial benefits from the number of hits then, after proven deadly accurate with my 1DsX prediction I will make another one far more wide reaching.
I will be joining my wife for dinner while a Canadian sniffs glue.
"
Hmmm . . . Do I have this straight?
If FM does not financially benefit from the number of hits if your prediction is right, Fred will have to report back to us on confirmation of this of course, then you'll clam up? No more predictions? We can count on that?
Yea!
If that's the case then it's you won't be taking your wife to dinner and that a Canadian will stop sniffing glue.
The only information available is Canon's quarterly and annual reports and the powerpoints for the market presentations when these reports are released. You can find them on Canon's investor relations web pages.
Each of Canon's reports claims for Canon the top position in the world in DSLR/Interchangeable Lens Digital Cameras (ILDC)
The format of each line is year over year growth in digital camera units, year over year growth in DSLR/ILDC). Percentage of digital camera units sold and value of DSLR/ILDC.
Year over year compares the same period the previous year with the current year.
The 2011 annual report records a -4% growth year over year in digital camera units sold. DSLRs were 28% of the units sold and 71% of the value.
1Q12 saw a +4% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. DSLRs were 28% of the units and 73% of the value.
2Q12 showed a +35% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC had a +47% y/y growth in units sold. ILDC were 31% of the units and 75% of the value.
3Q12 showed a -17% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -7% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 33% of units and 79% of the value.
4Q12 showed a -3% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were +14% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 32% of units and 77% of value.
1Q13 had a -31% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -15% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 35% of units and 81% of value.
2Q13 had a -19% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -4% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 36% of the units and 80% of value.
3Q13 had a -22% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -3% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 41% of the units and 83% of value.
4Q13 had a -16% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -6% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 35% of the units and 81% of the value.
1Q14 had a -22% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -7% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 41% of the units and 83% of the value.
2Q14 had a -31% growth y/y in digital camera units sold. ILDC were -19% y/y in units sold. ILDC were 42% of the units and 82% of the value.
i.e., the last year over year growth in DSLR/ILDC was recorded in 4Q12.
The digital camera business as a whole is certainly rapidly declining.
The DSLR/ILDC business is in slow decline. Can Canon put out new product in DSLR/ILDC to lure new customers and upgrade customers?
To put the numbers in perspective, for each 100 DSLRs Canon sold in 2Q11, Canon sold 147 in 2Q12, 141 in 2Q13 and 114 in 2Q14.
If we do the same exercise for the first quarter of the year, for each 100 DSLRs Canon sold in 1Q11, it sold 104 in 1Q12, 88 in 1Q13 and 82 in 1Q14.
I doubt that any of the Canon decision makers read this forum (a lot of people write with the hope that they do) but I bet if any do (or other Canon employees) they are either or Concerned. Would be cool if they read everything and took it as free advice given by a huge chunk of their customer base. Yes, there are lot of posts to weed through but hidden in the huge haystack are some really good ideas.
Sneakyracer wrote:
I doubt that any of the Canon decision makers read this forum (a lot of people write with the hope that they do) but I bet if any do (or other Canon employees) they are either or Concerned. Would be cool if they read everything and took it as free advice given by a huge chunk of their customer base. Yes, there are lot of posts to weed through but hidden in the huge haystack are some really good ideas.
Hmm....
Why would any company want to read internet forums? I mean, what good to them does it do to get freely provided opinions from people who use their products? Surely there must be better ways to gather user opinions.Such as the old-fashioned way of paying a small handful of people to come in and do focus groups to provide opinions on their products. Yes, surely paying for focus groups must be a better way, because you are actually spending money to get opinions instead of getting them or free on the internet from a larger and more diverse group of people. Even though we've revolutionized the way people communicate and interact and socialize with this technological marvel called the internet, there's no way that companies would want to track the communications that people are exchanging related directly to their products. Nah.
ggreene wrote:
Exactly. Complicated by the fact that I have to constantly watch the battery capacity indicator and carry around 10-20 batteries to get through a days shooting.
If you have to shoot 10,000 to 12,000 frames a day, maybe it's time you started to work on quality rather than quantity... ?
Why would any company want to read internet forums? I mean, what good to them does it do to get freely provided opinions from people who use their products? Surely there must be better ways to gather user opinions.Such as the old-fashioned way of paying a small handful of people to come in and do focus groups to provide opinions on their products. Yes, surely paying for focus groups must be a better way, because you are actually spending money to get opinions instead of getting them or free on the internet from a larger and more diverse group of people. Even though we've revolutionized the way people communicate and interact and socialize with this technological marvel called the internet, there's no way that companies would want to track the communications that people are exchanging related directly to their products. Nah.
Sneakyracer wrote:
I doubt that any of the Canon decision makers read this forum (a lot of people write with the hope that they do) but I bet if any do (or other Canon employees) they are either or Concerned. Would be cool if they read everything and took it as free advice given by a huge chunk of their customer base. Yes, there are lot of posts to weed through but hidden in the huge haystack are some really good ideas.
Sneaky,
I've stayed out of this 30 odd pages cause what is there to say? On this remark I believe you are underestimating how much data large companies collect from the press and various other sources. They actually are concerned about how they are perceived - though often not in the way that we might think they should.
Pre-Internet there were "clipping services" where for a varying fee, organizations would track a given number of newspapers and "clip" any reference to the company. It was considered a valuable and standard practice.
In the electronic error given the ability to borrow tech from NSA , I strongly suspect that Canon has a fair idea of what at least a good chunk of the reviewers and prominent blogs are saying and no doubt select forums that have enough readership.
So does Canon read this post and pay any attention? No likely, particularly since I don't know if FM is on their list of places to watch. Does Canon collect and analyze information from various electronic sources? Absolutely. The tricky question is what do the read, how do they value it, and most important, is it used simply to reinforce an already held world view or do they actually find value in their user data?
Very hard to say though it does appear that Canon is relatively tone-deaf on a number of subjects.
WarrenL wrote:
When you cover youth sports and photograph every competitor, you can easily take 10000 to 20000 images, all high quality and not spray and pray
Having shot for years, and professionally, how do you edit that many images for one days shooting? I would get a headache after a while.
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What? No thank you. 
you won't be taking your wife to dinner and 