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p.23 #1 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


Whether the rumor comes to be or not, my 1DX will continue to give me outstanding performance so it really doesn't matter to me. We have our fair share of prognosticators on this forum. I'm just glad it's not the "Canon is going out of business because of low ISO DR" tripe.


Oct 02, 2014 at 12:54 PM
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p.23 #2 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


Shutterbug2006 wrote:
http://www.lettersfromfrank.com/index.html



Yep, and that existed all along.



Oct 02, 2014 at 12:54 PM
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p.23 #3 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


jjoejr wrote:
Excellent article John. This caught my eye.

"Like everyone else, he has every right to post on a forum what he believes will happen."

My Question: Will Frank be able to take the backlash if it doesn't happen? As the readers have the same right to post on said forums if the prediction crashes. It might get ugly.

As for me, I will not indulge in it if the prediction fails. Chalk it up as great entertainment. Still 29 days to go! Pullin for ya Frank!



I'm pretty sure others were taking this more seriously than Frank did. But he knows I've posted my article and he can easily share his take himself.

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Oct 02, 2014 at 12:56 PM
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ggreene wrote:
Whether the rumor comes to be or not, my 1DX will continue to give me outstanding performance so it really doesn't matter to me. We have our fair share of prognosticators on this forum. I'm just glad it's not the "Canon is going out of business because of low ISO DR" tripe.


True enough. I actually have no issue with people playing a bit on these forums. As a journalist, what gets me is stories popping up on the editorial parts of websites that upon closer inspection aren't warranted.

I pointed out another one earlier this morning: US Forest Service Isn't Curtailing Photography



Oct 02, 2014 at 12:59 PM
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jjoejr wrote:
Excellent article John. This caught my eye.
As the readers have the same right to post on said forums if the prediction crashes. It might get ugly.


OMG - if my prediction fails to come true for the New York Show in October 2014 and I am forced to Walk the Plank, my wife will have the billions all to herself.

She's calling Canon and offering them $500,000 to keep it off the market until the day AFTER the show.

John, that you for the interview.



Oct 02, 2014 at 01:15 PM
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Only an indication that the rumor sites and rumor reporting has reached critical mass.

When rumor sites compete, everyone wants to be in front of the wagon rather than behind it. This isn't limited to photography, we see this in a lot of fields. It's easier (and far more timely) to report and recall later if it turns out to be false.

I do like the final quote, I know speculative reporting is a serious business but I can't help but give a lighthearted laugh to some of the things that have come up on the rumor sites over the last several years like the purported announcements that turned out to be photo contests or a new line of consumer-grade pixma printers.



Oct 02, 2014 at 01:25 PM
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johnvanr wrote:
I'm pretty sure others were taking this more seriously than Frank did. But he knows I've posted my article and he can easily share his take himself.



John, don't you think it's a bit of a stretch to use the term "editorial resources" in the same paragraph as the names of those rumor sites?



Oct 02, 2014 at 01:28 PM
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molson wrote:
John, don't you think it's a bit of a stretch to use the term "editorial resources" in the same paragraph as the names of those rumor sites?


Not from their perspective. That's the scary part, actually.







Oct 02, 2014 at 01:33 PM
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I guess, John has adopted a rational approach to this story by writing about it as it were just another internet phenomenon, which it really is. At least on this site, a number of people seem to have derived a considerable entertainment from the "prediction", and I see no harm done by it.



Oct 02, 2014 at 01:47 PM
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johnvanr wrote:
Yep, and that existed all along.


An excerpt: "August 14, 2003: Hugh Blackout hits Canada and US." ;-)

Hugh?

And "Fly's?" Who is "Fly," and what is it that he possesses? ;-)

johnvanr wrote:
I pointed out another one earlier this morning: US Forest Service Isn't Curtailing Photography


Yes, wasn't that a bizarre little story that acquired a life quite independent of the facts? (There are too many folks out there ready to use any story to promote the view that our government is evil. On the other hand, the initial erroneous reporting of the story did include errors that upset photographers for a reason.) In the end, there isn't much to that story.

Psychic1 wrote:
my wife will have the billions all to herself.


The "billions" of unfounded rumors? ;-)

Dan

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Oct 02, 2014 at 04:12 PM
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An excerpt: "August 14, 2003: Hugh Blackout hits Canada and US." ;-)

Hugh?

The "billions" of unfounded rumors? ;-)

Dan


G. Dan

I can not believe the senior vp of ABC News missed "hugh" in the BBC report.



Oct 02, 2014 at 05:32 PM
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Psychic1 wrote:
I can not believe the senior vp of ABC News missed "hugh" in the BBC report.


Ahem. Nor can I. (A search on "hugh blackout..." turns up nothing connected to CBS... ;-)



Oct 02, 2014 at 05:44 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
And the drums beat on....

This was posted today:

"Canon confirmed they are working on High Megapixel camera sensors and my trusted sources Sony is working on such cameras too. Sounds almost like both companies are working on it “on sync” because both companies are rumored to deliver around 50 Megapixels cameras within a close 3-6 months timeframe from now.

I am yet not sure about the rumor about Canon but it’s said that Canon could launch a 50MP Full Frame camera in mid October. Sony will “counterattack” beginning of 2015 (likely in January?). And as for now I heard about a
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Given Sony is supply the sensors for Phase One, Pentax and Haselblad MF cameras these days it makes sense to expect them to offer high MP FF sensors down the track

http://brianhirschfeldphotography.com/2014/01/24/just-announced-phaseone-iq250-the-rise-of-cmos/
http://photorumors.com/2014/01/24/the-first-cmos-based-medium-format-sensor-is-made-by-sony-inside-the-new-phaseone-iq25-and-hasselblad-h5d-50c/



Oct 02, 2014 at 06:37 PM
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Johnvanr, aren't you doing the same thing as all the rumor sites? Piling on like them, using the rabid interest in Psychic1's rumor post to direct traffic to your site, with a "different take"? More much ado about nothing? Is news about nothing really news?

I recall being the first on this thread to post Psychic1's previous posts from two years ago that would enable any reader to put the initial post into a better perspective of credibility... and I managed to get that done without exposing Psychic1's real identity (which I already knew), in order to protect his privacy. If he wanted to be known on this forum with his real name, he would have done so.

To your great and appreciated credit, you contacted him directly, and presumably received his permission to connect all of his online dots here. It is clear to me by his posts since yours that he has no objection to this.

At the same time, when you talk about "putting on your journalistic hat" to "investigate" this "OMG" announcement that was already well exposed to be merely the wishes of a Canon enthusiast, albeit a "psychic one", it seems to me that you are drinking from the same well as the Canon rumor sites. And willing participant or not, Psychic1 pays the price for your desire for exposure, by being exposed.

For Psychic1, that bell cannot be unrung. People in the camera corner of his life may henceforth view him differently, now that all the dots of his life are publically connected. I hope that is what he really wanted. It is certainly not what I would have done to him simply to prove a point about how rumors start, or simply to direct traffic to my blog.




Oct 02, 2014 at 06:41 PM
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Focus Locus wrote:
If he wanted to be known on this forum with his real name, he would have done so.


I thought he did:

Psychic1 wrote:
US Patent 4,819,453 is me.


Posting a patent number and this "is me" was essentially a self-declaration since names are attached to patents. Just google "https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=US+Patent+4,819,453&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8]US Patent 4,819,453[/url]" ;-)

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Oct 02, 2014 at 07:13 PM
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Focus Locus wrote:
Johnvanr, aren't you doing the same thing as all the rumor sites? Piling on like them, using the rabid interest in Psychic1's rumor post to direct traffic to your site, with a "different take"? More much ado about nothing? Is news about nothing really news?

I recall being the first on this thread to post Psychic1's previous posts from two years ago that would enable any reader to put the initial post into a better perspective of credibility... and I managed to get that done without exposing Psychic1's real identity (which I already knew), in order to protect his
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First of all, if you read my article carefully, you will note that at no point do I criticize or draw any conclusions about Frank. He talks for himself throughout. This is not about him but about the others picking up his prediction without even checking in with him.

The ones I take issue with are the sites that act as if they are performing a public service and supposedly add credibility to 'news.' Like you did, they could easily in five minutes have found out who was behind the rumor and whether he had any standing in the photographic or Canon-oriented community. They didn't and they should have.

I'm not spreading his rumor any further. My site is at the moment much smaller than any of these other sites and, if anything, I stop the rumor in its tracks.

You may also note that I never refer to rumors on my site and that the only reason I did today is to highlight the vagaries of this community and the sites that serve it. I think it's an interesting story that deserves attention.

Do I hope to gain traffic for my site? Yes, of course. Quite frankly, I think I deserve it too, since I actually did some work on this one, as opposed to the ones who got all the traffic.

Do I make any money out of this story? No, because there's no gear to be linked to.

Finally, I don't expose Frank at all. His name is all over the link directly from his profile on this site. I actually talked with him and listened to his story and then relayed his own words. He cooperated fully, gave me permission to use his picture and his full name. Even after that, I had a more experienced journalist proofread my article before publication to make sure I was treating this topic matter with the care it needed to be treated with.











Oct 02, 2014 at 07:16 PM
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p.23 #17 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


I don't believe in psychics.

Hmmm, well . . . maaaaaybeeeee . . . "guessing" . . . "with style".

Dave
PS. To infinity and beyond! . . .

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Oct 04, 2014 at 12:24 PM
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p.23 #18 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...


So does the camera exist now or not? I'm still not able to find anything.

EBH



Oct 04, 2014 at 03:07 PM
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And now, Canon USA published a 2 page advertising spread in the NYT along with the website below.

Note the countdown timer to this coming Tuesday? Sounds like a announcement in NYC this Tuesday, but for what??


http://seeimpossible.usa.canon.com/




Oct 05, 2014 at 12:20 PM
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scalesusa wrote:
Sounds like a announcement in NYC this Tuesday, but for what??



A new printer, of course!



Oct 05, 2014 at 12:30 PM
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