jcolwell wrote:
A 1DsX with 5 fps at 46 MP and 10 fps at a 1.3x 27 MP 'crop capture' would be totally awesome, dude!
I agree. A high MP 1D with a real internal crop would be sweet. Let's hope they up the FPS though. 5 is too low. 8 would be better at FF. We need a higher flash sync speed too.
Who on earth would be silly enough to pay $8-9k when you could buy a brand new D810 and 3/4 good lenses for that money This Canon is going to have to be able to arrange some sort of happy ending to be worth it IMhO the only rational way to compete with the exmor sensor'd bodies is to put a high mp sensor in a 5D style body at a competitive price... unless of course the sensor is the equal of the one in 645Z. #unlikely
Bones74 wrote:
Who on earth would be silly enough to pay $8-9k when you could buy a brand new D810 and 3/4 good lenses for that money This Canon is going to have to be able to arrange some sort of happy ending to be worth it IMhO the only rational way to compete with the exmor sensor'd bodies is to put a high mp sensor in a 5D style body at a competitive price... unless of course the sensor is the equal of the one in 645Z. #unlikely
Same people who pay close to $7000 for the 1Dx and the D4s Sports, wildlife & bird photographers will be all over this, the cropping potential along with the FPS, AF & ISO performance means nothing competes with this thing.
Wow this is a big development. Thanks Psychic1! Makes me feel better about Canon after the huge let down that Photokina was for me. Hopefully they have some fun lenses set to release with the new body! I imagine this 1Dxs is going to have a new sensor manufacturing process behind it as well, since no one believes that Canon's current one could make anything with that resolution. VERY COOL STUFF!
Bones74 wrote:
Who on earth would be silly enough to pay $8-9k when you could buy a brand new D810 and 3/4 good lenses for that money
I'm a likely customer.
How on earth do you suppose that a new D810 and three or four good Nikon lenses could possibly replace my four 'front line' EOS DSLR (1DX, 1DIV, 6D, 6D), and twenty-three top-quality EF-mount lenses?
Bones74 wrote:
Who on earth would be silly enough to pay $8-9k when you could buy a brand new D810 and 3/4 good lenses for that money This Canon is going to have to be able to arrange some sort of happy ending to be worth it IMhO the only rational way to compete with the exmor sensor'd bodies is to put a high mp sensor in a 5D style body at a competitive price... unless of course the sensor is the equal of the one in 645Z. #unlikely
Anyone with a few Canon TSE lenses of which a few landscape shooters there are, talk about uninformed
kezeka wrote:
Wow this is a big development. Thanks Psychic1! Makes me feel better about Canon after the huge let down that Photokina was for me. Hopefully they have some fun lenses set to release with the new body! I imagine this 1Dxs is going to have a new sensor manufacturing process behind it as well, since no one believes that Canon's current one could make anything with that resolution. VERY COOL STUFF!
Canon has been able to make extremely high resolution sensors for quite some time (see their prototype 120MP APS-H sensor), I don't think anyone has been questioning that. The question is can they do it and maintain image quality.
Bones74 wrote:
Who on earth would be silly enough to pay $8-9k when you could buy a brand new D810 and 3/4 good lenses for that money
Do you really have to ask this question? It will be out of stock for quite some time after release because Canon will not be able to meet demand. Granted, it will be low volume but there will be a certain segment of people that will pay that amount. Let's face it there will probably be people buying it on Ebay for $10K+ just to have the privilege of being first.
howard wrote:
Drama queen, must you start every thread with OMG?
He may well come to regret it as this thread spirals out of control.
hijazist wrote:
Same people who pay close to $7000 for the 1Dx and the D4s Sports, wildlife & bird photographers will be all over this, the cropping potential along with the FPS, AF & ISO performance means nothing competes with this thing.
but there is nothing that competes with the 1DX and D4/S for sports and action (especially in lower light). They only really compete with each other, there is no Sony, Pentax, Olympus etc cheaper alternative. A high mp Canon has to compete with the Sony A7R, D8xx series and leaves the majority of users without a high mp Canon option (too expensive). I'm a happy Canon user, but there is no way I'd buy a $8-9k high mp Canon (unless I win a lotto jackpot) when there are several options at less than half the cost out there. I'd most certainly be interested in a high mp 5D at a competitive price though as, I assume, would the majority of Canon users who have been patiently awaiting said camera. For studio/fashion, high end portraiture/landscape work this Canon would be competing squarely with the Pentax 645Z so its IQ needs to be on a par or better...
While the D810 doesnt have a very high burst rate it has the D4S AF which by all accounts is as good as the 1DX system. You could buy a D810 and a good condition used 500mm VR for under $8k, fap away at 5fps and then crop to your hearts content Me? I'm plenty happy putting 18mp of 1DX goodness at 700mm (500mm + 1.4x) to "good" use, although if the 7D2 proves to be pretty decent I might be tempted.
ggreene wrote:
Do you really have to ask this question? It will be out of stock for quite some time after release because Canon will not be able to meet demand. Granted, it will be low volume but there will be a certain segment of people that will pay that amount. Let's face it there will probably be people buying it on Ebay for $10K+ just to have the privilege of being first.
He may well come to regret it as this thread spirals out of control.
Yes, yes I did It was partially tongue in cheek knowing the small "must...have....it...now...at any cost" crowd would be selling their kidneys on the black market for it, like they did with the grossly overpriced 200-400L, but also knowing that the sensible (IMO) option for Canon would be to release a super sensor in a super duper 5D body to compete with the the exmor sensor'd bodies.
super35 wrote:
I think there is a very reasonable possibility the 1DsX will be exactly 44.7 megapixels or 8192x5461 pixels.
That is to more easily implement 4K video. The 4k production standard is 4096x2160. If you have an image sensor of 8192x5461 it is a much simpler to bin two pixels to one and end up with an image size 4096x2731 which is just a simple crop away from 4096x2160...
I think you would be binning four pixels, right?
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There are other ways to get there as well.
A thought: as mentioned earlier, a 1Dsx model would have to be followed quickly by a non-1-series camera with the same or similar sensor, since there is competition at lower price points from Nikon/Sony in the high-MP space.
BTW, I'm not yet ready to drink the Kool-Aid on this "rumor," though it doesn't seem completely outrageous in light of, well, a whole bunch of things.
Archive 2014 · OMG - 1DsX in NYC...
IMhO the only rational way to compete with the exmor sensor'd bodies is to put a high mp sensor in a 5D style body at a competitive price... unless of course the sensor is the equal of the one in 645Z. #unlikely