Archive 2014 · Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
p.5 #1Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
I can't guarantee that the list is correct but otherwise I would expect the wiki on the Leica User Forum to be a reliable source.
Jun 11, 2014 at 01:07 PM
p.5 #2Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mandler#Mandler_lenses
The 80Lux is on this list
The 80Lux is on this list
Jun 11, 2014 at 01:21 PM
p.5 #3Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Picture This! wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mandler#Mandler_lenses
The 80Lux is on this list
...as it should be. Why the Leica user forum wiki misses this is strange. Maybe they are more interested in M lenses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mandler#Mandler_lenses
The 80Lux is on this list
...as it should be. Why the Leica user forum wiki misses this is strange. Maybe they are more interested in M lenses.
Jun 11, 2014 at 01:33 PM
p.5 #4Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Jonas B wrote:
Joakim, the 80Lux isn't on that list. Neither are the first versions of the R50Lux. I'm pretty sure the 80 is a Mandler design and IIRC the 50 Luxes are that as well (maybe with the exception of the last E60 version - shame on me, I have owned that lens but can't say for sure now a couple of years later).
EDIT: I may very well be wrong about the 50mm lenses. Checking another source didn't list them either. It would be nice to have a complete and correct list available here as a reference for this thread.
Yes, so far as I know, the only 50 Mandler was responsible for aside from the Summicron is the Noctilux 50/1, the purchase of which has created many an internal debate for me. If we could turn back the clock to when B&H was selling them for 3k, the decision would already be made. But I just can't talk myself into spending 5-7k for one.
Joakim, the 80Lux isn't on that list. Neither are the first versions of the R50Lux. I'm pretty sure the 80 is a Mandler design and IIRC the 50 Luxes are that as well (maybe with the exception of the last E60 version - shame on me, I have owned that lens but can't say for sure now a couple of years later).
EDIT: I may very well be wrong about the 50mm lenses. Checking another source didn't list them either. It would be nice to have a complete and correct list available here as a reference for this thread.
Yes, so far as I know, the only 50 Mandler was responsible for aside from the Summicron is the Noctilux 50/1, the purchase of which has created many an internal debate for me. If we could turn back the clock to when B&H was selling them for 3k, the decision would already be made. But I just can't talk myself into spending 5-7k for one.
Jun 11, 2014 at 02:16 PM
p.5 #5Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
freaklikeme wrote:
(...)
Yes, so far as I know, the only 50 Mandler was responsible for aside from the Summicron is the Noctilux 50/1, the purchase of which has created many an internal debate for me. If we could turn back the clock to when B&H was selling them for 3k, the decision would already be made. But I just can't talk myself into spending 5-7k for one.
I have now checked Irwin's books and you are right.
5-7 thousands of dollars... that's quite some money for a lens. But, the Noctilux 50/1.0 images are often nice...
(...)
Yes, so far as I know, the only 50 Mandler was responsible for aside from the Summicron is the Noctilux 50/1, the purchase of which has created many an internal debate for me. If we could turn back the clock to when B&H was selling them for 3k, the decision would already be made. But I just can't talk myself into spending 5-7k for one.
I have now checked Irwin's books and you are right.
5-7 thousands of dollars... that's quite some money for a lens. But, the Noctilux 50/1.0 images are often nice...
Jun 11, 2014 at 03:09 PM
p.5 #6Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
I'm glad the R80 Lux is on the list...I'm falling for this lens! It. Is. Incredible. Very minimal PP, if at all, on all shots.
Gregg
WO
Gregg
WO
Jun 11, 2014 at 11:08 PM
p.5 #7Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Jonas B wrote:
Yes, so far as I know, the only 50 Mandler was responsible for aside from the Summicron is the Noctilux 50/1, the purchase of which has created many an internal debate for me. If we could turn back the clock to when B&H was selling them for 3k, the decision would already be made. But I just can't talk myself into spending 5-7k for one.I have now checked Irwin's books and you are right.
5-7 thousands of dollars... that's quite some money for a lens. But, the Noctilux 50/1.0 images are often nice...
It's an interesting lens. I rented it for a couple of days to try and get it out of my system, but it's not a lens that gets mastered in a couple of days. It is surprisingly sharp in the center wide open, given the age of the design. Someday I might find a user-condition bargain, but until then, I'll be content with the Summicron.
freaklikeme wrote
(...)Yes, so far as I know, the only 50 Mandler was responsible for aside from the Summicron is the Noctilux 50/1, the purchase of which has created many an internal debate for me. If we could turn back the clock to when B&H was selling them for 3k, the decision would already be made. But I just can't talk myself into spending 5-7k for one.
5-7 thousands of dollars... that's quite some money for a lens. But, the Noctilux 50/1.0 images are often nice...
It's an interesting lens. I rented it for a couple of days to try and get it out of my system, but it's not a lens that gets mastered in a couple of days. It is surprisingly sharp in the center wide open, given the age of the design. Someday I might find a user-condition bargain, but until then, I'll be content with the Summicron.
Jun 12, 2014 at 01:05 AM
p.5 #9Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Both images shot wide open:
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3312_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3328_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3312_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3328_640.jpg
Jun 14, 2014 at 07:34 PM
p.5 #10Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Guarding Earth
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3344_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3344_640.jpg
Jun 14, 2014 at 09:58 PM
p.5 #12Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
I decided to spend the day using only the Elmarit-M 28 vIII, partially because I knew it would come in handy, but mostly because if I don’t force myself to leave the Lux 35 in the bag, the 28 doesn’t get used all that much.
a7_Elmarit-M28_CC_1 by thisgunforhire70, on Flickr
a7_Elmarit-M28_Spell_on_You by thisgunforhire70, on Flickr
a7_Elmarit-M28_Light_Rail by thisgunforhire70, on Flickr
a7_Elmarit-M28_Buell by thisgunforhire70, on Flickr
a7_Elmarit-M28_R2 by thisgunforhire70, on Flickr
a7_Elmarit-M28_Iron_Man by thisgunforhire70, on Flickr
a7_Elmarit-M28_1989_Batmobile by thisgunforhire70, on Flickr
a7_Elmarit-M28_1966_Batmobile by thisgunforhire70, on Flickr
a7_Elmarit-M28_Deadpool_1 by thisgunforhire70, on Flickr
a7_Elmarit-M28_CC_1 by thisgunforhire70, on Flickra7_Elmarit-M28_Spell_on_You by thisgunforhire70, on Flickra7_Elmarit-M28_Light_Rail by thisgunforhire70, on Flickra7_Elmarit-M28_Buell by thisgunforhire70, on Flickra7_Elmarit-M28_R2 by thisgunforhire70, on Flickra7_Elmarit-M28_Iron_Man by thisgunforhire70, on Flickra7_Elmarit-M28_1989_Batmobile by thisgunforhire70, on Flickra7_Elmarit-M28_1966_Batmobile by thisgunforhire70, on Flickra7_Elmarit-M28_Deadpool_1 by thisgunforhire70, on FlickrJun 15, 2014 at 11:55 PM
p.5 #13Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
DSC04642.jpg by Taylor Sherman, on FlickrLux-R 80 on the A7.
Jun 15, 2014 at 11:58 PM
p.5 #14Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
'Strange Days'
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3399_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3399_640.jpg
Jun 19, 2014 at 12:00 AM
p.5 #15Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Very nice images, Jack, Taylor and Freaklikeme!
a few R80 shots...
Gregg
a few R80 shots...
Gregg
Jun 19, 2014 at 12:18 AM
p.5 #16Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
A shot of Gio with the R80, wide open. I missed focus just a touch, which actually adds to the "glow" effect!
Gregg
Gregg
Jun 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM
p.5 #17Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Great capture Gregg!
Softness vs details or softness & details all in one?
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3518_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3574_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3578_640.jpg
Softness vs details or softness & details all in one?
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3518_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3574_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3578_640.jpg
Jun 23, 2014 at 12:30 AM
p.5 #18Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Great thread... The 75/1.4 and/or 80/1.4 is one I've lusted after for some time... I had the chance to try the 75 once for a couple hours during a meet-up with another FMer in Toronto last year. Happen to have some of that online too...
All my Leica glass is too new, mostly of the ASPH era...
With the 75/1.4:
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9/20130206/20130206_0299.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9/20130206/20130206_0703.jpg
During the same outing I had the chance to try the 50/1 as well...
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9/20130206/20130206_0682.jpg
Another scene, this time with the 50/1 and second with the 50 Lux ASPH:
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9/20130206/20130206_0789.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9/20130206/20130206_0792.jpg
With the M system I haven't really been a huge 75mm fan, preferring the 50/90 gap. But the 75 Lux was an amazing lens to try and found it pretty easy to focus too. Same with the 50/1. Unfortunately, at least with the newer M glass, it seems Leica has opted for faster focus travel compared to the longer throws of older like the 50/1 and 75 Lux, which is really useful when trying to nail focus wide open. But the tradeoff is it's harder to follow focus...
All my Leica glass is too new, mostly of the ASPH era...
With the 75/1.4:
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9/20130206/20130206_0299.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9/20130206/20130206_0703.jpg
During the same outing I had the chance to try the 50/1 as well...
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9/20130206/20130206_0682.jpg
Another scene, this time with the 50/1 and second with the 50 Lux ASPH:
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9/20130206/20130206_0789.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9/20130206/20130206_0792.jpg
With the M system I haven't really been a huge 75mm fan, preferring the 50/90 gap. But the 75 Lux was an amazing lens to try and found it pretty easy to focus too. Same with the 50/1. Unfortunately, at least with the newer M glass, it seems Leica has opted for faster focus travel compared to the longer throws of older like the 50/1 and 75 Lux, which is really useful when trying to nail focus wide open. But the tradeoff is it's harder to follow focus...
Jun 23, 2014 at 06:17 PM
p.5 #19Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
B.E.A.Utiful images Ron! Love the 1./50 images! The bokeh is to die for! He last 2 shots are really nice, with the ASPH having a touch more pop on my iPhone 5s...the bokeh of the 1. Is better IMO.
Gregg
Gregg
Jun 23, 2014 at 06:40 PM
p.5 #20Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
^^^ +1
Ron, thank you for your contribution here.
It almost looks as if the only win-win situation is if you own both versions; pre-ASPH and ASPH. Well, at least in your favourite focal length
Couple shots PP with Fuji Neopan ACROS 100 curve:
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3563_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3584_640.jpg
Ron, thank you for your contribution here.
It almost looks as if the only win-win situation is if you own both versions; pre-ASPH and ASPH. Well, at least in your favourite focal length
Couple shots PP with Fuji Neopan ACROS 100 curve:
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3563_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3584_640.jpg
Jun 23, 2014 at 09:36 PM