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p.15 #2Sony A7/A7R Setup
CalBoy87 wrote:
Hi all. Just learning to use A7r and got couple questions, can't seem to find the answer in (sorry, but it is horrible) manual.
1) is there any way to change ISO in full increments? I know, if I assign ISO to any C button and use back wheel I can do it, but I like to achieve same with scrolling wheel
2) as I use MF lenses, I love the magnification option in EVF. However, as soon as I move finger close to shutter, it goes back to full screen mode. Is there any way to stop such action?
Thank you for...Show more →
For no.2.
Menu-cog menu page 1-focus magnify time-no limit.
Gordon
Hi all. Just learning to use A7r and got couple questions, can't seem to find the answer in (sorry, but it is horrible) manual.
1) is there any way to change ISO in full increments? I know, if I assign ISO to any C button and use back wheel I can do it, but I like to achieve same with scrolling wheel
2) as I use MF lenses, I love the magnification option in EVF. However, as soon as I move finger close to shutter, it goes back to full screen mode. Is there any way to stop such action?
Thank you for...Show more →
For no.2.
Menu-cog menu page 1-focus magnify time-no limit.
Gordon
Feb 22, 2014 at 03:28 PM
p.15 #3Sony A7/A7R Setup
Is there a way to release shutter with wired or wireless remote control when focus magnification is engaged?
Anytime I magnify in EVF I have to de-press shutter button to ‘return’ the image to non-magnified view otherwise I cannot fire the shutter with a remote. I am sure it’s related to magnification function as pressing shutter button returns view to normal then right away then fires up the shutter.
Note that focus magnification function is set to ‘No Limit’
Thanks.
Anytime I magnify in EVF I have to de-press shutter button to ‘return’ the image to non-magnified view otherwise I cannot fire the shutter with a remote. I am sure it’s related to magnification function as pressing shutter button returns view to normal then right away then fires up the shutter.
Note that focus magnification function is set to ‘No Limit’
Thanks.
Feb 22, 2014 at 08:04 PM
p.15 #4Sony A7/A7R Setup
JaKo wrote:
Is there a way to release shutter with wired or wireless remote control when focus magnification is engaged?
Anytime I magnify in EVF I have to de-press shutter button to ‘return’ the image to non-magnified view otherwise I cannot fire the shutter with a remote. I am sure it’s related to magnification function as pressing shutter button returns view to normal then right away then fires up the shutter.
Note that focus magnification function is set to ‘No Limit’
Thanks.
That is pretty annoying and I'm hoping gets fixed soon. You can't release the shutter when using a IR remote while in focus magnification.
If I remember correctly, it does work with the USB remote though.
Fred
Is there a way to release shutter with wired or wireless remote control when focus magnification is engaged?
Anytime I magnify in EVF I have to de-press shutter button to ‘return’ the image to non-magnified view otherwise I cannot fire the shutter with a remote. I am sure it’s related to magnification function as pressing shutter button returns view to normal then right away then fires up the shutter.
Note that focus magnification function is set to ‘No Limit’
Thanks.
That is pretty annoying and I'm hoping gets fixed soon. You can't release the shutter when using a IR remote while in focus magnification.
If I remember correctly, it does work with the USB remote though.
Fred
Feb 22, 2014 at 09:12 PM
p.15 #5Sony A7/A7R Setup
When using dmf or autofocus/mf button in p a or s modes...how do you release the shutter after images magnifies and you have critically focussed... without af engaging again...what is the correct way?
carstenw wrote:
What focusing mode do you use?
carstenw wrote:
What focusing mode do you use?
Feb 22, 2014 at 10:49 PM
p.15 #6Sony A7/A7R Setup
Hi, can someone answer the above?
Thanks
Also, there are quite a few manuals linked...which one should be the best?
Thanks
Also, there are quite a few manuals linked...which one should be the best?
Feb 23, 2014 at 11:06 AM
p.15 #7Sony A7/A7R Setup
nandadevieast wrote:
When using dmf or autofocus/mf button in p a or s modes...how do you release the shutter after images magnifies and you have critically focussed... without af engaging again...what is the correct way?
Probably half-press the shutter release, manual focus, then fully press.
When using dmf or autofocus/mf button in p a or s modes...how do you release the shutter after images magnifies and you have critically focussed... without af engaging again...what is the correct way?
carstenw wrote
What focusing mode do you use?Probably half-press the shutter release, manual focus, then fully press.
Feb 23, 2014 at 04:19 PM
p.15 #8Sony A7/A7R Setup
carstenw wrote:
Probably half-press the shutter release, manual focus, then fully press.
I have never understood why people connect AF to shutter button, it makes life so difficult. Specially with A7/A7r-kind of cameras, where the shutter button is really not having clear feeling for half press. Anything I have shoot with AF during my life (weddings/events, motorsports and very long time ago landscapes/nature) I could not imagine using shutter button for focus.
Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
Samuli
nandadevieast wrote
When using dmf or autofocus/mf button in p a or s modes...how do you release the shutter after images magnifies and you have critically focussed... without af engaging again...what is the correct way?carstenw wrote
What focusing mode do you use?I have never understood why people connect AF to shutter button, it makes life so difficult. Specially with A7/A7r-kind of cameras, where the shutter button is really not having clear feeling for half press. Anything I have shoot with AF during my life (weddings/events, motorsports and very long time ago landscapes/nature) I could not imagine using shutter button for focus.
Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
Samuli
Feb 23, 2014 at 11:54 PM
p.15 #9Sony A7/A7R Setup
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Probably half-press the shutter release, manual focus, then fully press.I have never understood why people connect AF to shutter button, it makes life so difficult. Specially with A7/A7r-kind of cameras, where the shutter button is really not having clear feeling for half press. Anything I have shoot with AF during my life (weddings/events, motorsports and very long time ago landscapes/nature) I could not imagine using shutter button for focus.
Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
Samuli
I separated AF and shutter when I was using D700 but on A7 I put a DIY stick on soft release to help with the shutter feel and I have no problem using the release for AF and shutter. That frees up my thumb to adjust other things like aperture, WB etc.
carstenw wrote
nandadevieast wrote
When using dmf or autofocus/mf button in p a or s modes...how do you release the shutter after images magnifies and you have critically focussed... without af engaging again...what is the correct way?carstenw wrote
What focusing mode do you use?Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
Samuli
I separated AF and shutter when I was using D700 but on A7 I put a DIY stick on soft release to help with the shutter feel and I have no problem using the release for AF and shutter. That frees up my thumb to adjust other things like aperture, WB etc.
Feb 24, 2014 at 12:02 AM
p.15 #10Sony A7/A7R Setup
carstenw wrote:
Probably half-press the shutter release, manual focus, then fully press.
Yeah I think that is the way to use DMF correctly. But I don't find myself using DMF often.
nandadevieast wrote
When using dmf or autofocus/mf button in p a or s modes...how do you release the shutter after images magnifies and you have critically focussed... without af engaging again...what is the correct way?carstenw wrote
What focusing mode do you use?Yeah I think that is the way to use DMF correctly. But I don't find myself using DMF often.
Feb 24, 2014 at 12:04 AM
p.15 #11Sony A7/A7R Setup
Classicxobsession wrote:
Probably half-press the shutter release, manual focus, then fully press.I have never understood why people connect AF to shutter button, it makes life so difficult. Specially with A7/A7r-kind of cameras, where the shutter button is really not having clear feeling for half press. Anything I have shoot with AF during my life (weddings/events, motorsports and very long time ago landscapes/nature) I could not imagine using shutter button for focus.
Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
SamuliI separated AF and shutter when I was using D700 but on A7 I put a DIY stick on soft release to help with the shutter feel and I have no problem using the release for AF and shutter. That frees up my thumb to adjust other things like aperture, WB etc.
DIY stick? Are there instructions somewhere?
Sony cameras can't do multitasking e.g. you can't change aperture while in magnify mode (which is really stupid, since that is the best way to adjust image for suitable DOF, did it all the time with 5DmkII) OR when half pressing shutter. WB, shooting mode etc. are all menus so they definitely won't work when half pressing the shutter. Can't imagine any use for thumb at same time as one needs AF with Sony cameras.
(not trying to annoy you, just trying to understand is there really some benefit of using shutter button for AF)
Samuli
Samuli Vahonen wrote
carstenw wrote
nandadevieast wrote
When using dmf or autofocus/mf button in p a or s modes...how do you release the shutter after images magnifies and you have critically focussed... without af engaging again...what is the correct way?carstenw wrote
What focusing mode do you use?Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
Samuli
DIY stick? Are there instructions somewhere?
Sony cameras can't do multitasking e.g. you can't change aperture while in magnify mode (which is really stupid, since that is the best way to adjust image for suitable DOF, did it all the time with 5DmkII) OR when half pressing shutter. WB, shooting mode etc. are all menus so they definitely won't work when half pressing the shutter. Can't imagine any use for thumb at same time as one needs AF with Sony cameras.
(not trying to annoy you, just trying to understand is there really some benefit of using shutter button for AF)
Samuli
Feb 24, 2014 at 12:19 AM
p.15 #12Sony A7/A7R Setup
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Probably half-press the shutter release, manual focus, then fully press.I have never understood why people connect AF to shutter button, it makes life so difficult. Specially with A7/A7r-kind of cameras, where the shutter button is really not having clear feeling for half press. Anything I have shoot with AF during my life (weddings/events, motorsports and very long time ago landscapes/nature) I could not imagine using shutter button for focus.
Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
SamuliI separated AF and shutter when I was using D700 but on A7 I put a DIY stick on soft release to help with the shutter feel and I have no problem using the release for AF and shutter. That frees up my thumb to adjust other things like aperture, WB etc.DIY stick? Are there instructions somewhere?
Sony cameras can't do multitasking e.g. you can't change aperture while in magnify mode (which is really stupid, since that is the best way to adjust image for suitable DOF, did it all the time with 5DmkII) OR when half pressing shutter. WB, shooting mode etc. are all menus so they definitely won't work when half pressing the shutter. Can't imagine any use for thumb at same time as one needs AF with Sony cameras.
(not trying to annoy you, just trying to understand is there really some benefit of using shutter button for...Show more →
Less button travel to capture? I guess it only benefits in DMF mode. I focus, then press the ael button set to magnify to verify/adjust focus then shoot. The way I set it up, I can actually use the same ael button to AF when lever is down and magnify when it is up so if you set it that way, your point is 100% valid.
On a different note, the stick on button is actually a piece of leather (actually leather grip for tennis rackets) that I cut out into a circle and stun on top of the shutter. (I actually do this on most of my cams without soft release threads) Since the height of the shutter is higher, it serves similar purpose as the soft release buttons. It will not actually "soften" the force require to actuate the shutter but the increased height allows you finer control and feel.
See an example on my DP2M below.
Classicxobsession wrote
Samuli Vahonen wrote
carstenw wrote
nandadevieast wrote
When using dmf or autofocus/mf button in p a or s modes...how do you release the shutter after images magnifies and you have critically focussed... without af engaging again...what is the correct way?carstenw wrote
What focusing mode do you use?Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
Samuli
Sony cameras can't do multitasking e.g. you can't change aperture while in magnify mode (which is really stupid, since that is the best way to adjust image for suitable DOF, did it all the time with 5DmkII) OR when half pressing shutter. WB, shooting mode etc. are all menus so they definitely won't work when half pressing the shutter. Can't imagine any use for thumb at same time as one needs AF with Sony cameras.
(not trying to annoy you, just trying to understand is there really some benefit of using shutter button for...Show more →
Less button travel to capture? I guess it only benefits in DMF mode. I focus, then press the ael button set to magnify to verify/adjust focus then shoot. The way I set it up, I can actually use the same ael button to AF when lever is down and magnify when it is up so if you set it that way, your point is 100% valid.
On a different note, the stick on button is actually a piece of leather (actually leather grip for tennis rackets) that I cut out into a circle and stun on top of the shutter. (I actually do this on most of my cams without soft release threads) Since the height of the shutter is higher, it serves similar purpose as the soft release buttons. It will not actually "soften" the force require to actuate the shutter but the increased height allows you finer control and feel.
See an example on my DP2M below.
Feb 24, 2014 at 01:04 AM
p.15 #13Sony A7/A7R Setup
And how do you dis-engage AF from shutter button on A7?
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Probably half-press the shutter release, manual focus, then fully press.I have never understood why people connect AF to shutter button, it makes life so difficult. Specially with A7/A7r-kind of cameras, where the shutter button is really not having clear feeling for half press. Anything I have shoot with AF during my life (weddings/events, motorsports and very long time ago landscapes/nature) I could not imagine using shutter button for focus.
Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
Samuli
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
carstenw wrote
nandadevieast wrote
When using dmf or autofocus/mf button in p a or s modes...how do you release the shutter after images magnifies and you have critically focussed... without af engaging again...what is the correct way?carstenw wrote
What focusing mode do you use?Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
Samuli
Feb 24, 2014 at 11:32 PM
p.15 #14Sony A7/A7R Setup
nandadevieast wrote:
And how do you dis-engage AF from shutter button on A7?
Probably half-press the shutter release, manual focus, then fully press.I have never understood why people connect AF to shutter button, it makes life so difficult. Specially with A7/A7r-kind of cameras, where the shutter button is really not having clear feeling for half press. Anything I have shoot with AF during my life (weddings/events, motorsports and very long time ago landscapes/nature) I could not imagine using shutter button for focus.
Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
Samuli
You actually can't disengage it (as far as I know - D700 could actually disengage it) but I think he means having another button for dedicated AF then just fully depressing the shutter to capture.
And how do you dis-engage AF from shutter button on A7?
Samuli Vahonen wrote
carstenw wrote
nandadevieast wrote
When using dmf or autofocus/mf button in p a or s modes...how do you release the shutter after images magnifies and you have critically focussed... without af engaging again...what is the correct way?carstenw wrote
What focusing mode do you use?Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
Samuli
You actually can't disengage it (as far as I know - D700 could actually disengage it) but I think he means having another button for dedicated AF then just fully depressing the shutter to capture.
Feb 25, 2014 at 01:18 AM
p.15 #15Sony A7/A7R Setup
You have to dis-engage the AF from shutter button for a meaningful implementation. Then pressing shutter button half way eont activate the af.
Classicxobsession wrote:
Probably half-press the shutter release, manual focus, then fully press.I have never understood why people connect AF to shutter button, it makes life so difficult. Specially with A7/A7r-kind of cameras, where the shutter button is really not having clear feeling for half press. Anything I have shoot with AF during my life (weddings/events, motorsports and very long time ago landscapes/nature) I could not imagine using shutter button for focus.
Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
SamuliYou actually can't disengage it (as far as I know - D700 could actually disengage it) but I think he means having another button for dedicated AF then just fully depressing the shutter to capture.
Classicxobsession wrote:
nandadevieast wrote
And how do you dis-engage AF from shutter button on A7?Samuli Vahonen wrote
carstenw wrote
nandadevieast wrote
When using dmf or autofocus/mf button in p a or s modes...how do you release the shutter after images magnifies and you have critically focussed... without af engaging again...what is the correct way?carstenw wrote
What focusing mode do you use?Why people wanna make their life so difficult? What is the benefit (this is serious question, as I see nothing positive about this)?
Samuli
Feb 25, 2014 at 02:16 AM
p.15 #16Sony A7/A7R Setup
Not sure what you want to do but you can e.g. place toggle AF/MF control to the AF/MF button. To take an image you can now e.g. set focus with AF by half pressing the shutter - then remove finger. Then push the toggle button, recompose and press shutter again. AF will not be invoked by shutter in the 2nd press. In fact it wont til you press the toggle button again.
Feb 25, 2014 at 03:29 AM
p.15 #17Sony A7/A7R Setup
nandadevieast wrote:
And how do you dis-engage AF from shutter button on A7?
Change focusing mode from AF to manual focus. Assign AF activation to some of the customizable buttons (I use the one inside the AF/MF- and EAL-switch).
When shooting I use the customized button for AF, and as camera is in manual focus mode it will never focus with half press.
Don't have manual or camera with me, so cannot check if shutter half press can be configured in A7/A7r. On some cameras it can be configured, but I have shoot so many cameras during past 10 years that I can't remember which had which options to configure - after all this kind of config is done ONCE and then forgotten. For example in last 3 years only custom function I have needed in Canon 5DmkII is mirror lockup setting, and I did pin that one to menu favorites page.
Samuli
And how do you dis-engage AF from shutter button on A7?
Change focusing mode from AF to manual focus. Assign AF activation to some of the customizable buttons (I use the one inside the AF/MF- and EAL-switch).
When shooting I use the customized button for AF, and as camera is in manual focus mode it will never focus with half press.
Don't have manual or camera with me, so cannot check if shutter half press can be configured in A7/A7r. On some cameras it can be configured, but I have shoot so many cameras during past 10 years that I can't remember which had which options to configure - after all this kind of config is done ONCE and then forgotten. For example in last 3 years only custom function I have needed in Canon 5DmkII is mirror lockup setting, and I did pin that one to menu favorites page.
Samuli
Feb 25, 2014 at 03:40 AM
p.15 #18Sony A7/A7R Setup
To focus only with button in AF/MF control on rear, and not with shutter release:
Menu>Gear>3>AF w/ shutter>Off
Menu>Gear>6>Custom Key Settings>AF/MF Button>AF On
Menu>Gear>3>AF w/ shutter>Off
Menu>Gear>6>Custom Key Settings>AF/MF Button>AF On
Feb 25, 2014 at 04:29 AM
p.15 #19Sony A7/A7R Setup
Thanks
Why the af/mf button preferable to DMF method?
wfrank wrote:
Not sure what you want to do but you can e.g. place toggle AF/MF control to the AF/MF button. To take an image you can now e.g. set focus with AF by half pressing the shutter - then remove finger. Then push the toggle button, recompose and press shutter again. AF will not be invoked by shutter in the 2nd press. In fact it wont til you press the toggle button again.
Why the af/mf button preferable to DMF method?
wfrank wrote:
Not sure what you want to do but you can e.g. place toggle AF/MF control to the AF/MF button. To take an image you can now e.g. set focus with AF by half pressing the shutter - then remove finger. Then push the toggle button, recompose and press shutter again. AF will not be invoked by shutter in the 2nd press. In fact it wont til you press the toggle button again.
Feb 25, 2014 at 08:42 AM
p.15 #20Sony A7/A7R Setup
Hi
What is the preferred focus method here, those who AF with fe lenses...?
I like flexible spot..still figuring out how to move the spot
Edited on Feb 25, 2014 at 11:14 AM · View previous versions
What is the preferred focus method here, those who AF with fe lenses...?
I like flexible spot..still figuring out how to move the spot
Edited on Feb 25, 2014 at 11:14 AM · View previous versions
Feb 25, 2014 at 08:44 AM