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p.16 #1 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


LightandMotion wrote:
I'm using the acratech L-plate as RRS don't make an L-plate for the battery grip on the A7R yet. It's eliminated any shutter shake either with camera or lens mount. Some pics and comments halfway done my review here:

http://www.lightandmotionphotography.com/section467038_273521.html

Very interesting. How does the battery grip attach? Do you have to remove the L plate to attach/remove? For me this might be a good combination; remove battery grip/L plate for handholding, attach for tripod photography, and neither should be susceptible to vibration.

Mike



Jan 01, 2014 at 04:36 AM
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p.16 #2 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


Yes you can remove and attach the grip with the L Plate on if you want. Only thing is if you don't have an extra battery, you'll need to take the plate of the grip to retrieve the battery in the grip. If it was me, I'd just take the L plate off and hand shoot with the grip on.


Jan 01, 2014 at 07:06 AM
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p.16 #3 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


Is the battery grip vibration fix the way to go for longer than 100mm work, has this been verified? Now all we need is Sony to give a discount to all A7r owners on the purchase of the $299 grip. This would give Sony time to work on the firmware update and quiet most all the vibration talk.


Jan 01, 2014 at 11:17 AM
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p.16 #4 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


I simply couldn't replicate the shake, even when using my longest, heaviest lens, Contax C/Y 180mm f:2.8, shooting a target 25m away. Following the "shake manual", I tried shutter speeds between 1/20s and 1/120s, and couldn't generate it. I tried portrait mode, and still no shake. I tried my lightest tripod, a very flimsy all-plastic Cullmann, fully extended, and still no shake.
From participating to the GetDPI forum on this topic, it was clear that the shake can happen if you connect your camera and lens to the tripod via a lens collar, which basically leaves the camera free to resonate, and the longer the distance between camera and collar, the greater the likely shake.
Those who, like me, connected the camera and lens to the tripod via a baseplate did not get shake. If the contact surface is large, and rubber-covered, all the better.



Jan 01, 2014 at 11:37 AM
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p.16 #5 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


As I alluded to before, the other alternative is to shoot at a "normal" speed.

Why you want to shoot a 300+ at 1/100 I don't understand



Jan 01, 2014 at 03:19 PM
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p.16 #6 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


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As I alluded to before, the other alternative is to shoot at a "normal" speed.

Why you want to shoot a 300+ at 1/100 I don't understand



Only situation for me would be panning for motorsports where I use 1/30 - 1/100. I doubt shutter shake would be an issue for these type of images though, no matter what the shutter speed was.



Jan 01, 2014 at 03:32 PM
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p.16 #7 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


http://blog.kasson.com


Jan 11, 2014 at 09:39 AM
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p.16 #8 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


I often shoot handheld telephoto lenses at shutter speeds well below the "reciprocal of focal length" rule of thumb.


















Jan 11, 2014 at 10:32 AM
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p.16 #9 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


I use a long lens + camera support made with an RRS Y support and some misc. RRS and Hejnar stuff that would probably help to reduce shutter vibration.












Jan 11, 2014 at 10:41 AM
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p.16 #10 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


Nice Set up! I had shot some test images using my Nikon 70-200 f2.8 lens with the A7r to test for shutter vibrations when all of these discussions first started. Mostly I was satisfied that I could get very sharp images from this combination as long as I anchored the camera body a little more securely or used the battery grip. Below you will see one of my worst images on the left side with the lens at 200mm and on the right side you will see the same image after running it through Photoshop CC's new Shake reduction filter. This was done with one pass totally automatically by Photoshop. I was skeptical about this filters ability to actually do anything that I would use but after seeing the results I feel that it is capable of totally eliminating the A7r shutter shake. I will have to do more tests, but the first ones seem quite positive. The image on the left was done at a 60th of a second only anchored by the foot on the lens with no battery grip.





A7r 70-200 2.8 v2 nikon




Jan 11, 2014 at 03:08 PM
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p.16 #11 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


Is there anything similar to the Photoshop CC's shake reduction filter for Mac Aperture 3.5?


Jan 12, 2014 at 08:50 AM
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p.16 #12 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


There is a program called Piccure that does the same thing but only for lightroom. I have not tested it to see the differences with photoshop CC. http://intelligentimagingsolutions.com/index.php/en/


Jan 12, 2014 at 09:36 AM
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p.16 #13 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


My RRS L bracket for my A7r arrived on Friday. I will run some additional tests for vibration with the camera particularly in the portrait orientation probably within the next several days or so in an effort to combat/minimize vibration.

Rich



Jan 12, 2014 at 11:02 AM
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p.16 #14 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


dennishh wrote:
There is a program called Piccure that does the same thing but only for lightroom. I have not tested it to see the differences with photoshop CC. http://intelligentimagingsolutions.com/index.php/en/


Thank you for the url. So far nothing for Apple Aperture.



Jan 12, 2014 at 01:35 PM
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p.16 #15 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


jaclarkaus wrote:
Why you want to shoot a 300+ at 1/100 I don't understand


It's a little-known phenomenon we have here in the northern hemisphere... we call it "darkness".



Jan 12, 2014 at 02:25 PM
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p.16 #16 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


David Kilpatrick was mentioning a couple of weeks back that OSS was disabled in the a7r, presumably the kit lens.

What has slipped under the radar so far is this FE long zoom, surely Sony's test bed lens for this matter:

FE 70-200mm F4 G OSS

http://www.dpreview.com/products/Sony/lenses/sony_zeiss_fe_70_200_4_oss

It is 840 grams, has a rather meaty lens mounted tripod arm, and OSS.



Jan 12, 2014 at 03:42 PM
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p.16 #17 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


840 grams sure beats the Nikon 70-200 2.8 that I'm using now at 1.54 kg and 8" long. OSS would be sweet. Seems a little high on the price for an f4 though.


Jan 12, 2014 at 03:54 PM
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p.16 #18 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


jcolwell wrote:
I often shoot handheld telephoto lenses at shutter speeds well below the "reciprocal of focal length" rule of thumb.


Yes, but that is with an IS lens .. add the stops back



Jan 13, 2014 at 05:27 PM
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p.16 #19 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


philip_pj wrote:
David Kilpatrick was mentioning a couple of weeks back that OSS was disabled in the a7r, presumably the kit lens.

What has slipped under the radar so far is this FE long zoom, surely Sony's test bed lens for this matter:

FE 70-200mm F4 G OSS

http://www.dpreview.com/products/Sony/lenses/sony_zeiss_fe_70_200_4_oss

It is 840 grams, has a rather meaty lens mounted tripod arm, and OSS.


The kit FE 28-70 does enable OSS on the A7r. I think some of the older NEX lenses disable OSS on both the A7 and A7r. Don't know if anyone really knows why.



Jan 13, 2014 at 06:22 PM
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p.16 #20 · Sony A7r shutter vibration


bcaslis wrote:
The kit FE 28-70 does enable OSS on the A7r. I think some of the older NEX lenses disable OSS on both the A7 and A7r. Don't know if anyone really knows why.


For some reason OSS is disabled for the SEL 55-210 on the A7r. The SEL 10-18, 35mm, and 50mm are enabled on the A7r.



Jan 13, 2014 at 07:13 PM
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