Sony FE Images Thread
p.888 #1Sony FE Images Thread
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Purple? As in purple fringing or longitudinal CA? I couldn't say that I noticed that in excessive level, if any.Yes, purple fringing. It has massive amounts--more than any other 85 1.4 I shot. I actually just got tired of trying to process it out and went with the Canon 85FD instead. Most lenses have some fringing, but the 85CZ was annoyingly high. I have posted some examples below. One uncorrected (raw export), one with the LR5 Defringe tool on max (still leaves purple patches in the dark), and one with the color purple entirely desaturated, which does get rid of the fringing, but obviously screws everything else up.OK, your definition of purple fringing differs from mine. I consider longitudinal CA or purple fringing to be more the color shadows at harsh contrast transitions and that is mostly noticeable at OOF areas. In my book, it is not the overall tone of the subject like in your case. Again, based on my observation, the loCA is generally very well controlled in that lens. You may spot some at f/1.4 or f/2.0 at 100% image magnification but not bothersome.Ahh, I see. Yes, the lens exhibits the fringing you are talking about, but not severe or anything at all. I found in high contrast subjects at f2 and below I was getting purple everywhere. Otherwise I loved the lens. What is the type of optical occurance I am talking about classified as?
It is just a color cast, I would say. I don't believe that it has any particular name. It has to do more with the overall bluish cast, which at times could turn purplish, off the blue sky you subject/model takes on since you place the subject/model in a shaded spot while the sky is blue. In the film days, you need a "sky filter" to remove or minimize the cast but now, in the digital days, we have it easier and we just change the color balance.
AGeoJO wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
AGeoJO wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
I really liked the Sony Zeiss 85 1.4, except all that purpleIt is just a color cast, I would say. I don't believe that it has any particular name. It has to do more with the overall bluish cast, which at times could turn purplish, off the blue sky you subject/model takes on since you place the subject/model in a shaded spot while the sky is blue. In the film days, you need a "sky filter" to remove or minimize the cast but now, in the digital days, we have it easier and we just change the color balance.
May 21, 2015 at 09:52 AM
p.888 #2Sony FE Images Thread
i don't think it's color cast. I think you're talking about lateral ca, and I am talking about longitudinal ca, both considered ca. I think people (like me 
) just call them both purple fringing. All the apo lenses I gave owned have no magenta/green issue, in or out of the focus plane.
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) just call them both purple fringing. All the apo lenses I gave owned have no magenta/green issue, in or out of the focus plane.Edited on May 21, 2015 at 10:36 AM · View previous versions
May 21, 2015 at 10:28 AM
p.888 #3Sony FE Images Thread
AGeoJO wrote:
Purple? As in purple fringing or longitudinal CA? I couldn't say that I noticed that in excessive level, if any.Yes, purple fringing. It has massive amounts--more than any other 85 1.4 I shot. I actually just got tired of trying to process it out and went with the Canon 85FD instead. Most lenses have some fringing, but the 85CZ was annoyingly high. I have posted some examples below. One uncorrected (raw export), one with the LR5 Defringe tool on max (still leaves purple patches in the dark), and one with the color purple entirely desaturated, which does get rid of the fringing, but obviously screws everything else up.OK, your definition of purple fringing differs from mine. I consider longitudinal CA or purple fringing to be more the color shadows at harsh contrast transitions and that is mostly noticeable at OOF areas. In my book, it is not the overall tone of the subject like in your case. Again, based on my observation, the loCA is generally very well controlled in that lens. You may spot some at f/1.4 or f/2.0 at 100% image magnification but not bothersome.
What verison are you guys talking about ? Sony Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 ZA or Contax 85 1.4 ?
Is nehemiahphoto talking about C / Y version ?
nehemiahphoto wrote
AGeoJO wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
I really liked the Sony Zeiss 85 1.4, except all that purpleWhat verison are you guys talking about ? Sony Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 ZA or Contax 85 1.4 ?
Is nehemiahphoto talking about C / Y version ?
May 21, 2015 at 10:35 AM
p.888 #4Sony FE Images Thread
Ronny _Olsson wrote:
Purple? As in purple fringing or longitudinal CA? I couldn't say that I noticed that in excessive level, if any.Yes, purple fringing. It has massive amounts--more than any other 85 1.4 I shot. I actually just got tired of trying to process it out and went with the Canon 85FD instead. Most lenses have some fringing, but the 85CZ was annoyingly high. I have posted some examples below. One uncorrected (raw export), one with the LR5 Defringe tool on max (still leaves purple patches in the dark), and one with the color purple entirely desaturated, which does get rid of the fringing, but obviously screws everything else up.OK, your definition of purple fringing differs from mine. I consider longitudinal CA or purple fringing to be more the color shadows at harsh contrast transitions and that is mostly noticeable at OOF areas. In my book, it is not the overall tone of the subject like in your case. Again, based on my observation, the loCA is generally very well controlled in that lens. You may spot some at f/1.4 or f/2.0 at 100% image magnification but not bothersome.What verison are you guys talking about ? Sony Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 ZA or Contax 85 1.4 ?
Is nehemiahphoto talking about C / Y version ?
His shots and mine are with the ZA
AGeoJO wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
AGeoJO wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
I really liked the Sony Zeiss 85 1.4, except all that purpleIs nehemiahphoto talking about C / Y version ?
His shots and mine are with the ZA
May 21, 2015 at 10:37 AM
p.888 #5Sony FE Images Thread
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Purple? As in purple fringing or longitudinal CA? I couldn't say that I noticed that in excessive level, if any.Yes, purple fringing. It has massive amounts--more than any other 85 1.4 I shot. I actually just got tired of trying to process it out and went with the Canon 85FD instead. Most lenses have some fringing, but the 85CZ was annoyingly high. I have posted some examples below. One uncorrected (raw export), one with the LR5 Defringe tool on max (still leaves purple patches in the dark), and one with the color purple entirely desaturated, which does get rid of the fringing, but obviously screws everything else up.OK, your definition of purple fringing differs from mine. I consider longitudinal CA or purple fringing to be more the color shadows at harsh contrast transitions and that is mostly noticeable at OOF areas. In my book, it is not the overall tone of the subject like in your case. Again, based on my observation, the loCA is generally very well controlled in that lens. You may spot some at f/1.4 or f/2.0 at 100% image magnification but not bothersome.What verison are you guys talking about ? Sony Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 ZA or Contax 85 1.4 ?
Is nehemiahphoto talking about C / Y version ?His shots and mine are with the ZA
Aha .. I misunderstood .. do you mean that there are even more CA on the 85 1.4 C / Y version?
Ronny _Olsson wrote
AGeoJO wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
AGeoJO wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
I really liked the Sony Zeiss 85 1.4, except all that purpleIs nehemiahphoto talking about C / Y version ?
Aha .. I misunderstood .. do you mean that there are even more CA on the 85 1.4 C / Y version?
May 21, 2015 at 10:44 AM
p.888 #6Sony FE Images Thread
Ronny _Olsson wrote:
Yes, purple fringing. It has massive amounts--more than any other 85 1.4 I shot. I actually just got tired of trying to process it out and went with the Canon 85FD instead. Most lenses have some fringing, but the 85CZ was annoyingly high. I have posted some examples below. One uncorrected (raw export), one with the LR5 Defringe tool on max (still leaves purple patches in the dark), and one with the color purple entirely desaturated, which does get rid of the fringing, but obviously screws everything else up.OK, your definition of purple fringing differs from mine. I consider longitudinal CA or purple fringing to be more the color shadows at harsh contrast transitions and that is mostly noticeable at OOF areas. In my book, it is not the overall tone of the subject like in your case. Again, based on my observation, the loCA is generally very well controlled in that lens. You may spot some at f/1.4 or f/2.0 at 100% image magnification but not bothersome.What verison are you guys talking about ? Sony Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 ZA or Contax 85 1.4 ?
Is nehemiahphoto talking about C / Y version ?His shots and mine are with the ZAAha .. I misunderstood .. do you mean that there are even more CA on the 85 1.4 C / Y version?
No. I have only shot the za. And my comments are exclusively about that--I've heard awesome things about the contax n version though
nehemiahphoto wrote
Ronny _Olsson wrote
AGeoJO wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
AGeoJO wrote
Purple? As in purple fringing or longitudinal CA? I couldn't say that I noticed that in excessive level, if any.Is nehemiahphoto talking about C / Y version ?
No. I have only shot the za. And my comments are exclusively about that--I've heard awesome things about the contax n version though
May 21, 2015 at 10:49 AM
p.888 #7Sony FE Images Thread
some wonderful Images here.
two "bike" Pictures
René
two "bike" Pictures
René
May 21, 2015 at 10:58 AM
p.888 #8Sony FE Images Thread
nehemiahphoto wrote:
OK, your definition of purple fringing differs from mine. I consider longitudinal CA or purple fringing to be more the color shadows at harsh contrast transitions and that is mostly noticeable at OOF areas. In my book, it is not the overall tone of the subject like in your case. Again, based on my observation, the loCA is generally very well controlled in that lens. You may spot some at f/1.4 or f/2.0 at 100% image magnification but not bothersome.What verison are you guys talking about ? Sony Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 ZA or Contax 85 1.4 ?
Is nehemiahphoto talking about C / Y version ?His shots and mine are with the ZAAha .. I misunderstood .. do you mean that there are even more CA on the 85 1.4 C / Y version?No. I have only shot the za. And my comments are exclusively about that--I've heard awesome things about the contax n version though
Sorry I read wrong .. you wrote the 85 CZ .. don't know how I got it for C / Y
Ronny _Olsson wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
Ronny _Olsson wrote
AGeoJO wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
Yes, purple fringing. It has massive amounts--more than any other 85 1.4 I shot. I actually just got tired of trying to process it out and went with the Canon 85FD instead. Most lenses have some fringing, but the 85CZ was annoyingly high. I have posted some examples below. One uncorrected (raw export), one with the LR5 Defringe tool on max (still leaves purple patches in the dark), and one with the color purple entirely desaturated, which does get rid of the fringing, but obviously screws everything else up.Is nehemiahphoto talking about C / Y version ?
Sorry I read wrong .. you wrote the 85 CZ .. don't know how I got it for C / Y
May 21, 2015 at 11:12 AM
p.888 #9Sony FE Images Thread
nehemiahphoto wrote:
i don't think it's color cast. I think you're talking about lateral ca, and I am talking about longitudinal ca, both considered ca. I think people (like me ) just call them both purple fringing. All the apo lenses I gave owned have no magenta/green issue, in or out of the focus plane.
The dog picture you posted had very weak and unsaturated green, I would assume this is due to wrong tint on WB adjustment (too magenta). Some lenses just don't give you the same white balance as others, for example in my holiday I had 3 Zeiss lenses; 25mm ZE, 50mm Loxia and 135mm ZE - the 25mm differs on WB from the two other so that it was really hard to get photos look the same.
I haven't yet had privilege to try ZA series 85mm, so no idea how it's WB is compared to other lenses.
Samuli
i don't think it's color cast. I think you're talking about lateral ca, and I am talking about longitudinal ca, both considered ca. I think people (like me
) just call them both purple fringing. All the apo lenses I gave owned have no magenta/green issue, in or out of the focus plane.The dog picture you posted had very weak and unsaturated green, I would assume this is due to wrong tint on WB adjustment (too magenta). Some lenses just don't give you the same white balance as others, for example in my holiday I had 3 Zeiss lenses; 25mm ZE, 50mm Loxia and 135mm ZE - the 25mm differs on WB from the two other so that it was really hard to get photos look the same.
I haven't yet had privilege to try ZA series 85mm, so no idea how it's WB is compared to other lenses.
Samuli
May 21, 2015 at 12:05 PM
p.888 #10Sony FE Images Thread
a7, Canon FDn 28/2
Untitled by Pepijn Sauer, on Flickr
Untitled by Pepijn Sauer, on Flickr
May 21, 2015 at 12:31 PM
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p.888 #11Sony FE Images Thread
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
) just call them both purple fringing. All the apo lenses I gave owned have no magenta/green issue, in or out of the focus plane.The dog picture you posted had very weak and unsaturated green, I would assume this is due to wrong tint on WB adjustment (too magenta). Some lenses just don't give you the same white balance as others, for example in my holiday I had 3 Zeiss lenses; 25mm ZE, 50mm Loxia and 135mm ZE - the 25mm differs on WB from the two other so that it was really hard to get photos look the same.
I haven't yet had privilege to try ZA series 85mm, so no idea how it's WB is compared to other lenses.
Samuli
That's true and a good observation. I've noticed this as well. I just a raw with no processing (a900 file if you are curious). Even with adjusted WB, the gue of the magenta shifts but does not disappear really. All the a-mount za lenses are impressive, except I haven't shot the 50za.
nehemiahphoto wrote
i don't think it's color cast. I think you're talking about lateral ca, and I am talking about longitudinal ca, both considered ca. I think people (like me ) just call them both purple fringing. All the apo lenses I gave owned have no magenta/green issue, in or out of the focus plane.I haven't yet had privilege to try ZA series 85mm, so no idea how it's WB is compared to other lenses.
Samuli
That's true and a good observation. I've noticed this as well. I just a raw with no processing (a900 file if you are curious). Even with adjusted WB, the gue of the magenta shifts but does not disappear really. All the a-mount za lenses are impressive, except I haven't shot the 50za.
May 21, 2015 at 12:38 PM
p.888 #12Sony FE Images Thread
nampramos wrote:
It's that time of the year...
https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7671/17905798146_62d62e19ce_b.jpgDSC01479.jpg by Nuno Ramos, on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8853/17311484513_e243d917e9_b.jpgDSC01474.jpg by Nuno Ramos, on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8789/17932599921_ba1b072fbc_b.jpgDSC01471.jpg by Nuno Ramos, on Flickr
Which lens is this? The nervous bokeh actually adds another dimension to the picture and your pp makes them look like paintings. Nice work!
It's that time of the year...
https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7671/17905798146_62d62e19ce_b.jpgDSC01479.jpg by Nuno Ramos, on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8853/17311484513_e243d917e9_b.jpgDSC01474.jpg by Nuno Ramos, on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8789/17932599921_ba1b072fbc_b.jpgDSC01471.jpg by Nuno Ramos, on Flickr
Which lens is this? The nervous bokeh actually adds another dimension to the picture and your pp makes them look like paintings. Nice work!
May 21, 2015 at 12:41 PM
p.888 #13Sony FE Images Thread
nampramos wrote:
It's that time of the year...
https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7671/17905798146_62d62e19ce_b.jpgDSC01479.jpg by Nuno Ramos, on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8853/17311484513_e243d917e9_b.jpgDSC01474.jpg by Nuno Ramos, on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8789/17932599921_ba1b072fbc_b.jpgDSC01471.jpg by Nuno Ramos, on Flickr
Nuno,what lens did you use for those photos?Triotar?
It's that time of the year...
https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7671/17905798146_62d62e19ce_b.jpgDSC01479.jpg by Nuno Ramos, on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8853/17311484513_e243d917e9_b.jpgDSC01474.jpg by Nuno Ramos, on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8789/17932599921_ba1b072fbc_b.jpgDSC01471.jpg by Nuno Ramos, on Flickr
Nuno,what lens did you use for those photos?Triotar?
May 21, 2015 at 01:15 PM
p.888 #14Sony FE Images Thread
You can see it on flickr what he used Peire and hiepphotog......just a click away that info.
''Jupiter8 50/2''
cheers.
''Jupiter8 50/2''
cheers.
May 21, 2015 at 02:02 PM
p.888 #15Sony FE Images Thread
hiepphotog thanks! It's the Jupiter8 50/2. Pushed the contrast and saturation on some of the colours.
The lens actually does most of the work, when used at MFD.
The lens actually does most of the work, when used at MFD.
May 21, 2015 at 02:08 PM
p.888 #16Sony FE Images Thread
Zeiss Distagon T* 2.8/21 ZF 2 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr
May 21, 2015 at 02:27 PM
p.888 #17Sony FE Images Thread
a7, Canon FDn 28/2
Untitled by Pepijn Sauer, on Flickr
Untitled by Pepijn Sauer, on Flickr
May 21, 2015 at 02:47 PM
p.888 #18Sony FE Images Thread
Very nice Agnostic.
A7R & Distagon 28/2.8
Government by マーティン アーウィン, on Flickr
A7R & Distagon 28/2.8
Government by マーティン アーウィン, on FlickrMay 21, 2015 at 03:16 PM
p.888 #20Sony FE Images Thread
Abandoned flour mill near Lille, northern France.
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May 21, 2015 at 03:40 PM