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Samuli Vahonen wrote
Gunzorro wroteThere must have been some real dogs of this lens sent to reviewers. I can't explain the difference between what I'm getting and about 40% of what I read before buying.
I have theory for this; people assume some qualities from Zeiss lenses, which causes them to have too high expectations of some aspects of the lens performance - then they get disappointed by wide open boke and corners - as they don't have patience, knowledge and skills they don't learn and everything about the lens seems awful => then they go to forum/review/whatever to complain about it. I would have assumed high price and manual focus would have scared these users, and they would buy some other lenses, but it seems that my assumption was wrong.

I don't have Loxia 35, but I have the ZM-series 2/35 and lens requires knowing it's behavior well e.g. majority of urban boke scenes need stopping down to f/3.2-f/3.5 for boke optimization, but background detail at certain frequency may require even closing down to f/4.5. On nature boke scenes it's safer bet to use f/4-4.5 as "default" maximum aperture on boke scenarios, at least on Nordic evergreen forest, which tend to have horrible backgrounds from boke point of view. Naturally quantity of boke has big effect, if shooting at minimum focus distance and background is far away the quantity of boke hides most of the boke quality issues and it's likely that f/2.5 becomes usable aperture. Sometimes boke contrast makes big difference, e.g. using polarizer on backlight forest scene can cut the highlights (=rough reflections from undergrowth etc.) and this makes it possible to use larger aperture without distracting subject with busy boke. And when boke gets ugly with ZM2/35 it tends to be really ugly. I would assume Loxia 35 behavior is similar.

Samuli
Thanks, Samuli -- Your explanation may well have something to do with the negativity I've read or heard about.

My approach is probably a little different from many users buying somewhat "exotic" equipment, and in this case lenses. I can see why some might be disappointed if their paradigm for a Zeiss lens is bokeh related (not that I've found this an issue with the Loxia 35, but some might). I'm more interested in finding the f-stop range for best overall sharpness, color, and contrast, and that is usually outside the "Bokeh Zone" of close focus and wide open aperture.
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Greetings.
I'm also from the "F8.0 and be there" school but perhaps will graduate from it one day.
This thread has simply opened my eyes to new techniques, experimentation with different lenses, and so on.
Gentle suggestions and criticisms have also helped. Can an old dog learn new tricks? Possibly one or two.
However, when I see some of the shots from Venice (you know by whom) or Iceland or Norway (you know by whom),
I realize that there are not-far-off limits for me. This helps me enjoy seeing and studying those great photos; pure admiration and no envy.
But I also like seeing not-so-great shots when I feel my approach to a particular scene could have been better.
So thank you all for having created such a great thread.
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minolta AF 100/2 + kolari UT:
















May 01, 2017 at 10:37 PM
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Wow! The last couple of pages how been pretty awesome.
Ronny...taking up portraits now! Love them...
Jim...The Loxia 21 is awesome. Love the statue bust portrait! And I have to agree with you on the Loxia 35. First time around, was as Samuli said. Now this time around as second ownership, I've learned to use f8-11 and this lens is superb!
Derek...I like seeing you experimenting with other lenses. Love your style and eye. And your little man is getting big!
Joshua...^^^^Very nice.
Jack^^^^ Super super wow!
Gregg
A couple while sitting in the back of our car as a passenger...
A7rll and FE 50 1.4 ZA @f2.8






Literally hung the rig out the window for this grab!







Sweet ass Lambo...😉

May 01, 2017 at 11:49 PM
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Sony A7 + Canon FD 85mm 1.2

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May 02, 2017 at 05:42 AM
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Photo taken at 12:02 PM

Looking at a boulder covered with mosses and lichens, leaves, and the forest
Tripod mounted Cambo Actus camera with A7r and Rodenstock 50mm f2.8 Apo Rodagon N Enlarger lens
ISO 200, f11, 1/25 second
Exposure corrected by +0.48 Stops; processed in LR6.10
4 degrees of tilt

October 24, 2016
At a Trail Head next to a Parking lot not far from Skyline Drive, Shenandoah NP, Virginia

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May 02, 2017 at 06:10 AM
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Greggf wrote:
Wow! The last couple of pages how been pretty awesome.
Ronny...taking up portraits now! Love them...
Jim...The Loxia 21 is awesome. Love the statue bust portrait! And I have to agree with you on the Loxia 35. First time around, was as Samuli said. Now this time around as second ownership, I've learned to use f8-11 and this lens is superb!
Derek...I like seeing you experimenting with other lenses. Love your style and eye. And your little man is getting big!
Joshua...^^^^Very nice.
Jack^^^^ Super super wow!
Gregg
A couple while sitting in the back of our car as a passenger...
A7rll and FE
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Thanks so much Gregg!

You know, after my little speech, then seeing yet another of Joshua's triumphant FE 35/1.4 shots, maybe we need the Loxia 35 for some smaller f/stops, and then the Sony for the wider apertures? Nothing a small fortune won't resolve! That's some beautiful imaging he provides and a strong argument for a different lens approach based on different subjects.
May 02, 2017 at 07:46 AM
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AGeoJO wrote:
Gunzorro wroteJoshua -- This is obviously one of your favorite models, and for good reason!

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3-shot pano, Loxia 21, hand held, LRCC
Yup, she and her husband became our good friends, Jim. Thank you!

I was there late last year and I love your images from the Getty Center!

k-h.a.w wroteMy favorite of your Venice 2017 images, BTW that all are sublime! Construction rebar + flowers, who knew it could be so eye-catching?
Thank you so much Joshua for your tremendous and successful effort.
No matter which subject you choose, your resulting images are exquisite!

Cheers, Karl-Heinz.
K-H., thank you so very much. I am very flattered...

Here is another one of the same model but with a friend this time around


Thanks Joshua! I remember well your view (with the Voigtlander 12mm, right?) looking up at the Getty sunroof -- I think you captured the more exciting shot, although I'm happy with this one too.

And you make a very strong case for needing two 35mm lenses, as I mentioned to Gregg! You make wonderful use of the fast FE 35/1.4 on people and scenes at wider apertures. Then, my Loxia 35 could be my smaller aperture use. So simple! (And of course I'd need two bodies! Ha-ha! )

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A couple variations of the two dramatic bougainvillea sculpture groups at the Getty gardens.











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You know, after my little speech, then seeing yet another of Joshua's triumphant FE 35/1.4 shots, maybe we need the Loxia 35 for some smaller f/stops, and then the Sony for the wider apertures? Nothing a small fortune won't resolve! That's some beautiful imaging he provides and a strong argument for a different lens approach based on different subjects.
Ha! Funny, Joshua and I have pm'd back and forth about that! His portraits with the FE 35 1.4 are absolutely incredible. Ive thought about trading my FE 50 for one...but I just can't get rid of it. So I'd have to rent or buy one. The only thing is the copy variation is supposedly bad. We'll see...
May 02, 2017 at 08:03 AM
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Greggf wrote:
Wow! The last couple of pages how been pretty awesome.
Joshua...^^^^Very nice.
Gregg
A couple while sitting in the back of our car as a passenger...
A7rll and FE 50 1.4 ZA @f2.8@


Thank you, Gregg!

Hey, stop taking pictures of my car, will you ? Great images there, buddy!


Gunzorro wrote:
Greggf wroteWow! The last couple of pages how been pretty awesome.
Ronny...taking up portraits now! Love them...
Jim...The Loxia 21 is awesome. Love the statue bust portrait! And I have to agree with you on the Loxia 35. First time around, was as Samuli said. Now this time around as second ownership, I've learned to use f8-11 and this lens is superb!
Derek...I like seeing you experimenting with other lenses. Love your style and eye. And your little man is getting big!
Joshua...^^^^Very nice.
Jack^^^^ Super super wow!
Gregg
A couple while sitting in the back of our car as a passenger...
A7rll and FE 50 1.4 ZA @f2.8@@
Thanks so much Gregg!

You know, after my little speech, then seeing yet another of Joshua's triumphant FE 35/1.4 shots, maybe we need the Loxia 35 for some smaller f/stops, and then the Sony for the wider apertures? Nothing a small fortune won't resolve! That's some beautiful imaging he provides and a strong argument for a different lens approach based on different subjects.


Than you, Jim! I agree, the two compliment each other indeed. There is not much difference in speed and it seems to be more in the rendition. I enjoy using that lens even at wide open but sometimes, I stopped it down a little to get more depth-of-field.


Greggf wrote:
Earlier quoteYou know, after my little speech, then seeing yet another of Joshua's triumphant FE 35/1.4 shots, maybe we need the Loxia 35 for some smaller f/stops, and then the Sony for the wider apertures? Nothing a small fortune won't resolve! That's some beautiful imaging he provides and a strong argument for a different lens approach based on different subjects.
Ha! Funny, Joshua and I have pm'd back and forth about that! His portraits with the FE 35 1.4 are absolutely incredible. Ive thought about trading my FE 50 for one...but I just can't get rid of it. So I'd have to rent or buy one. The only thing is the copy variation is supposedly bad. We'll see...


Gregg, both are worth having, I meant, using, of course WRT the copy-to-copy variation, I got a hunch that mostly it has to do with expectation. You simply don't expect a fast semi wide-angle lens to render everything sharp from corner to corner at wide open but some folks apparently do or did. There seems to be also a field curvature that may be at play here. The way I look at it, if I put the main interest in the ⅓ area to the left/right and it is rendered sharp at wide open then it passes the muster. Now, centering is important though. I would to get the same rendition whether I put the target on the left or on the right without having to think I have to shift further in on one side over the other.



Here is another image taken with that lens.... Look ma, no mask, no mask!




© AGeoJO 2017

Pretty in pink

May 02, 2017 at 09:01 AM
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AGeoJO wrote:
Greggf wroteWow! The last couple of pages how been pretty awesome.
Joshua...^^^^Very nice.
Gregg
A couple while sitting in the back of our car as a passenger...
A7rll and FE 50 1.4 ZA @f2.8@@
Thank you, Gregg!

Hey, stop taking pictures of my car, will you ? Great images there, buddy!

Gunzorro wrote
Greggf wroteWow! The last couple of pages how been pretty awesome.
Ronny...taking up portraits now! Love them...
Jim...The Loxia 21 is awesome. Love the statue bust portrait! And I have to agree with you on the Loxia 35. First time around, was as Samuli said. Now this time around as second ownership, I've learned to use f8-11 and this lens is superb!
Derek...I like seeing you experimenting with other lenses. Love your style and eye. And your little man is getting big!
Joshua...^^^^Very nice.
Jack^^^^ Super super wow!
Gregg
A couple while sitting in the back of our car as a passenger...
A7rll and FE 50 1.4 ZA @f2.8@@@
Thanks so much Gregg!

You know, after my little speech, then seeing yet another of Joshua's triumphant FE 35/1.4 shots, maybe we need the Loxia 35 for some smaller f/stops, and then the Sony for the wider apertures? Nothing a small fortune won't resolve! That's some beautiful imaging he provides and a strong argument for a different lens approach based on different subjects.
Than you, Jim! I agree, the two compliment each other indeed. There is not much difference in speed and it seems to be more in the rendition. I enjoy using that lens even at wide open but sometimes, I stopped it down a little to get more depth-of-field.

Greggf wrote
Earlier quoteYou know, after my little speech, then seeing yet another of Joshua's triumphant FE 35/1.4 shots, maybe we need the Loxia 35 for some smaller f/stops, and then the Sony for the wider apertures? Nothing a small fortune won't resolve! That's some beautiful imaging he provides and a strong argument for a different lens approach based on different subjects.
Ha! Funny, Joshua and I have pm'd back and forth about that! His portraits with the FE 35 1.4 are absolutely incredible. Ive thought about trading my FE 50 for one...but I just can't get rid of it. So I'd have to rent or buy one. The only thing is the copy variation is supposedly bad. We'll see...
Gregg, both are worth having, I meant, using, of course WRT the copy-to-copy variation, I got a hunch that mostly it has to do with expectation. You simply don't expect a fast semi wide-angle lens to
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Definitely "Pretty in Pink"!

Here's very nice Japanese family I met at the Getty who asked me to take their photo with their camera -- I asked if I could take a quick shot of them with mine too, and email to them. This is the result. Who knew Rembrandt was part of their family? This is cropped about 40%, but the 21mm still works decent for this sort of thing on 42MP sensor. I was surprised how many times people solicited me to take their photo using their camera or phone -- at least four or five. I was honored!






May 02, 2017 at 09:51 AM
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Kierzkow wrote:
Greetings.
I'm also from the "F8.0 and be there" school but perhaps will graduate from it one day.
This thread has simply opened my eyes to new techniques, experimentation with different lenses, and so on.
Gentle suggestions and criticisms have also helped. Can an old dog learn new tricks? Possibly one or two.
However, when I see some of the shots from Venice (you know by whom) or Iceland or Norway (you know by whom),
I realize that there are not-far-off limits for me. This helps me enjoy seeing and studying those great photos; pure admiration and no envy.
But I also like seeing not-so-great
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That's the spirit, Henry! I don't know whether you saw the poll a few months ago about the different age groups of Sony users. I am definitely up there age-wise. I am still learning and trying to improve and we are all in there together. We simply don't stop doing that until we kick the bucket.

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I am just back home from a trip to Budapest, so this is the first one I'd like to share:


Patio by Bastian.K
Sony A7rII + Voigtlander 10mm 5.6E @f/8.0
May 02, 2017 at 10:52 AM
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Nice Gregg Joshua and Jim


Sony A7RII + Sony FE 85mm F1.8 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr
May 02, 2017 at 10:59 AM
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Cracking portraits Ronny

Here's a few from Westminster station with the Voigtlander 12mm (on a7r)





















May 02, 2017 at 12:51 PM
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Ronny Olsson wrote:
Nice Gregg Joshua and Jim

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2829/34409767225_14f6c1eec9_h.jpg
Sony A7RII + Sony FE 85mm F1.8 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr


Her eyes are stunning Ronny . Love the B&W conversion on this one
May 02, 2017 at 01:22 PM
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Thanks John !
Like your last set ..looks great in B/W


Slightly missfocus .. sry ( I tried to correct it in PP )


Sony A7RII + Sony FE 85mm F1.8 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr





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lifthard2001 wrote:
Ronny Olsson wroteNice Gregg Joshua and Jim

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2829/34409767225_14f6c1eec9_h.jpg
Sony A7RII + Sony FE 85mm F1.8 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr
Her eyes are stunning Ronny . Love the B&W conversion on this one


Thank you

May 02, 2017 at 01:30 PM
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Cracking portraits Ronny

Here's a few from Westminster station with the Voigtlander 12mm (on a7r)



Captured Westminster perfectly! I was there last summer and really regretted not having a wide enough lens to capture the architecture what you got here.
May 02, 2017 at 01:35 PM


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