Sony FE Images Thread
p.1428 #1Sony FE Images Thread
One from a cold hike into the hills today.
MC Rokkor PG 50/1.4
MC Rokkor PG 50/1.4
Feb 14, 2016 at 06:28 AM
p.1428 #2Sony FE Images Thread
alba63 wrote:
Peire: I like your images as such, but on my monitor they look very washed out, at least 1-1,5 stops too bright...
I agree Peire's image are always ~0.66 stops overexposed. This is consistent with all Peire's images also have in EXIF information that "Exposure Bias: +0.70 EV" which will generally result overexposure with A7-series. I can't remember many times Peire had 1 stop overexposure, and I don't remember ever seen 1.5 stop overexposure from Peire (but I also don't follow other threads than this, Zeiss & Leica threads). I guess over the years I have adjusted my brain for Peire's shots as they have always been like this and I just compensate with brains.
What cd/m2 value and gamma you have calibrated your monitor? Your photos seem ~0.66 stops underexposed (based on the architectural post few pages ago and these marine images), or you aim to very grungy and dark look? I have my main computer now 150cd/m2 (gamma 2.2), and secondary computer is 120cd/m2 (gamma 2.2). With both computers your images look too dark (unless that is the artistic look you prefer) and Peire's overexposed.
Hard to judge on forums as some people don't have professional workflow including calibration, and many people have artistic preferences, for which they don't aim natural image rendering style.
Samuli
Peire: I like your images as such, but on my monitor they look very washed out, at least 1-1,5 stops too bright...
I agree Peire's image are always ~0.66 stops overexposed. This is consistent with all Peire's images also have in EXIF information that "Exposure Bias: +0.70 EV" which will generally result overexposure with A7-series. I can't remember many times Peire had 1 stop overexposure, and I don't remember ever seen 1.5 stop overexposure from Peire (but I also don't follow other threads than this, Zeiss & Leica threads). I guess over the years I have adjusted my brain for Peire's shots as they have always been like this and I just compensate with brains.
What cd/m2 value and gamma you have calibrated your monitor? Your photos seem ~0.66 stops underexposed (based on the architectural post few pages ago and these marine images), or you aim to very grungy and dark look? I have my main computer now 150cd/m2 (gamma 2.2), and secondary computer is 120cd/m2 (gamma 2.2). With both computers your images look too dark (unless that is the artistic look you prefer) and Peire's overexposed.
Hard to judge on forums as some people don't have professional workflow including calibration, and many people have artistic preferences, for which they don't aim natural image rendering style.
Samuli
Feb 14, 2016 at 06:35 AM
p.1428 #3Sony FE Images Thread
Werner_Utsch wrote:
" The Surface "
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/594/23654961846_90710148b9_h.jpg
Surface by Werner Utsch, on Flickr
Wow!
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/594/23654961846_90710148b9_h.jpg
Surface by Werner Utsch, on Flickr
Wow!
Feb 14, 2016 at 06:46 AM
p.1428 #4Sony FE Images Thread
Thanks, Samuli, I have calibrated my monitor to print brightness, as far as I remember 100cd/m2, will recalibrate later... If I adjust it to the recommended 120, I always found printed images to be too dark (respectively my monitor too bright).
So there is something I don't get: If I calibrate my monitor too dark (100cd/m2), I would logically tend to edit my images too bright, and those with a monitor adjustet brigher, should see it even brighter than I do. For the Jellyfish the light in the Aquarium is obviously very dark, lots of almost black I feel the images already brighter than the real thing...
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So there is something I don't get: If I calibrate my monitor too dark (100cd/m2), I would logically tend to edit my images too bright, and those with a monitor adjustet brigher, should see it even brighter than I do. For the Jellyfish the light in the Aquarium is obviously very dark, lots of almost black I feel the images already brighter than the real thing...
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Feb 14, 2016 at 06:47 AM
p.1428 #5Sony FE Images Thread
Mnd1 wrote:
" The Surface "
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/594/23654961846_90710148b9_h.jpg
Surface by Werner Utsch, on Flickr Wow!
+1
Very nice combination of stark contrast and subtle tonal gradation. Great shot!
Werner_Utsch wrote
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/594/23654961846_90710148b9_h.jpg
Surface by Werner Utsch, on Flickr
+1
Very nice combination of stark contrast and subtle tonal gradation. Great shot!
Feb 14, 2016 at 06:49 AM
p.1428 #6Sony FE Images Thread
Thank you very much Chris. the winter is 2016 as in May. 
Manuel thank you. like also there. in Venice...
charles thank you very much.
Great images all
René
Manuel thank you. like also there. in Venice...
charles thank you very much.
Great images all
René
Feb 14, 2016 at 06:51 AM
p.1428 #7Sony FE Images Thread
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Wow, that looks really good, thanks for posting. These look really good; the focus plane stands out from picture, almost like with Zeiss, but they still look like a Leica photos.
I love the 80-200/4 Leica-R, but was hesitant to get 35-70 because I had seen ONLY bad samples of boke, but your samples look pretty good. From your samples the only thing I didn't like was the 2nd last image (35mm, f/4, vertical, subject was rusty water pump), in which corners indicate either radically larger DOF in corners or forward field curvature (either one is not good for boke...Show more →
I did not have enough time to test the Vario Elmar 35-70/4.0 thoroughly,so more pictures are ahead to come.So far I didn't see bad boke examples,but only some flare,photographing darker object against bright background.This brown colour is unnatural for a Leica indeed.Maybe A7R's auto WB set itself a little too high.
What struck me most,was the very little field curvature at the distance of 1,5-2m,wide open at any focal lenght ,compared to the C/Y Vario Sonnar 35-70/3.4.For example,at 35mm the Leica is almost entirely sharp across the frame,with only a hint of softness in the farthest corners,whereas the Zeiss has soft corners up untill f8.At 50mm the Leica is just sharp everywhere and the Zeiss still shows a little corner softness.At 70mm they are pretty much the same.
Peire wrote
It was a chilly,dull day yesterday,but I decided to visit a little village,hidden in the ravine,with old ruined palace surrounded by moat and abandoned cemetery chapel.The Lieca Vario-Elmar R 35-70/4.0 was taken out for the first time,coupled with the A7R.That zoom is really outstanding - the best 35-70 I have tested so far.Better than the Vario-Sonnar 35-70/3.5 C/Y and Minolta MD Macro 35-70/3.5.Sharp across the frame wide open at any focal lenght and very sharp/contrasty stopped down by 1f stop.Only a trace of softness in the farthest corners wo at 35mm and some distortion there,but the overall IQ is prime-like.Negligible amount of CA.Very good macro.I love the 80-200/4 Leica-R, but was hesitant to get 35-70 because I had seen ONLY bad samples of boke, but your samples look pretty good. From your samples the only thing I didn't like was the 2nd last image (35mm, f/4, vertical, subject was rusty water pump), in which corners indicate either radically larger DOF in corners or forward field curvature (either one is not good for boke...Show more →
I did not have enough time to test the Vario Elmar 35-70/4.0 thoroughly,so more pictures are ahead to come.So far I didn't see bad boke examples,but only some flare,photographing darker object against bright background.This brown colour is unnatural for a Leica indeed.Maybe A7R's auto WB set itself a little too high.
What struck me most,was the very little field curvature at the distance of 1,5-2m,wide open at any focal lenght ,compared to the C/Y Vario Sonnar 35-70/3.4.For example,at 35mm the Leica is almost entirely sharp across the frame,with only a hint of softness in the farthest corners,whereas the Zeiss has soft corners up untill f8.At 50mm the Leica is just sharp everywhere and the Zeiss still shows a little corner softness.At 70mm they are pretty much the same.
Feb 14, 2016 at 06:52 AM
p.1428 #8Sony FE Images Thread
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
I agree Peire's image are always ~0.66 stops overexposed. This is consistent with all Peire's images also have in EXIF information that "Exposure Bias: +0.70 EV" which will generally result overexposure with A7-series. I can't remember many times Peire had 1 stop overexposure, and I don't remember ever seen 1.5 stop overexposure from Peire (but I also don't follow other threads than this, Zeiss & Leica threads). I guess over the years I have adjusted my brain for Peire's shots as they have always been like this and I just compensate with brains.
What cd/m2 value and gamma you have...Show more →
I have set exposure compensation +0,7EV on every Mirrorless camers that I have,to balance out the light lost caused by mechanical adapters.
On my laptop pictures look well exposed,but yes,when I look at them,placed on different sites,I sometimes see that they are usually slightly overexposed.
Edited on Feb 14, 2016 at 07:02 AM · View previous versions
alba63 wrote
Peire: I like your images as such, but on my monitor they look very washed out, at least 1-1,5 stops too bright...What cd/m2 value and gamma you have...Show more →
I have set exposure compensation +0,7EV on every Mirrorless camers that I have,to balance out the light lost caused by mechanical adapters.
On my laptop pictures look well exposed,but yes,when I look at them,placed on different sites,I sometimes see that they are usually slightly overexposed.
Edited on Feb 14, 2016 at 07:02 AM · View previous versions
Feb 14, 2016 at 06:58 AM
p.1428 #9Sony FE Images Thread
alba63 wrote:
Peire: I like your images as such, but on my monitor they look very washed out, at least 1-1,5 stops too bright...
Some more from from the aquatic world...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nfbVzwEEeIw/Vr-OHpds9DI/AAAAAAAAgW4/yZVe6YbPgHw/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3483.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YN3Bo2LA7rE/Vr-TtOYWY3I/AAAAAAAAgVc/NasC70Y8ga0/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3434.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HF3UOmY--sM/Vr-UVIzo-zI/AAAAAAAAgU8/0pM6nJtQFFM/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3368.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mW0RQsCzls0/Vr-VyfsQw5I/AAAAAAAAgWw/XS_9A_zveZc/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3362.jpg
This is probably caused by bad calibration of both my and your monitors.
Peire: I like your images as such, but on my monitor they look very washed out, at least 1-1,5 stops too bright...
Some more from from the aquatic world...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nfbVzwEEeIw/Vr-OHpds9DI/AAAAAAAAgW4/yZVe6YbPgHw/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3483.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YN3Bo2LA7rE/Vr-TtOYWY3I/AAAAAAAAgVc/NasC70Y8ga0/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3434.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HF3UOmY--sM/Vr-UVIzo-zI/AAAAAAAAgU8/0pM6nJtQFFM/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3368.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mW0RQsCzls0/Vr-VyfsQw5I/AAAAAAAAgWw/XS_9A_zveZc/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3362.jpg
This is probably caused by bad calibration of both my and your monitors.
Feb 14, 2016 at 07:01 AM
p.1428 #10Sony FE Images Thread
Trying out the FD 35mm f/2.8 TS S.S.C.:
Whyley under the table by Jannik Peters, auf Flickr
Yukon having a lazy time by Jannik Peters, auf Flickr
It's funny, a new way of composing images.
Whyley under the table by Jannik Peters, auf Flickr
Yukon having a lazy time by Jannik Peters, auf Flickr
It's funny, a new way of composing images.
Feb 14, 2016 at 07:03 AM
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p.1428 #11Sony FE Images Thread
They look overexposed to me as well. I'm sure you check histograms though. I view my screen in a dark room and find that 75 cd/m2 produces prints of the correct brightness. If you view the screen in a light room you will need more. iMac screens typically run at 160, a level which would invalidate the warranty on my EIZO, but are tailored, I suspect, for use in bright office environments.
Peire wrote:
Some more from from the aquatic world...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nfbVzwEEeIw/Vr-OHpds9DI/AAAAAAAAgW4/yZVe6YbPgHw/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3483.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YN3Bo2LA7rE/Vr-TtOYWY3I/AAAAAAAAgVc/NasC70Y8ga0/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3434.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HF3UOmY--sM/Vr-UVIzo-zI/AAAAAAAAgU8/0pM6nJtQFFM/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3368.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mW0RQsCzls0/Vr-VyfsQw5I/AAAAAAAAgWw/XS_9A_zveZc/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3362.jpgThis is probably caused by bad calibration of both my and your monitors.
Peire wrote:
alba63 wrote
Peire: I like your images as such, but on my monitor they look very washed out, at least 1-1,5 stops too bright...Some more from from the aquatic world...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nfbVzwEEeIw/Vr-OHpds9DI/AAAAAAAAgW4/yZVe6YbPgHw/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3483.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YN3Bo2LA7rE/Vr-TtOYWY3I/AAAAAAAAgVc/NasC70Y8ga0/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3434.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HF3UOmY--sM/Vr-UVIzo-zI/AAAAAAAAgU8/0pM6nJtQFFM/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3368.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mW0RQsCzls0/Vr-VyfsQw5I/AAAAAAAAgWw/XS_9A_zveZc/s1280-Ic42/_DSC3362.jpg
Feb 14, 2016 at 07:26 AM
p.1428 #12Sony FE Images Thread
A crystal clear day in the desert. These shots are taken from the top of a high mesa. The final shot is taken down in the low desert "wash" or "arroyo" which has water flowing this time of year. A7RII with FE 24-240mm.
Feb 14, 2016 at 09:03 AM
p.1428 #13Sony FE Images Thread
Some from yesterday while getting haircuts.
Gregg
A7rll and Summicron M 50 v4
Gio without hair
Gregg
A7rll and Summicron M 50 v4
Gio without hair
Feb 14, 2016 at 10:18 AM
p.1428 #14Sony FE Images Thread
Phillip Reeve wrote:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1550/24720498350_69e87bf652_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1633/24922722791_acef5359b0_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1487/24720498650_056f76f06a_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1514/24897989382_ff4b9a0c4b_o.jpg
There is also a new Voigtlander 5.6/12 Review on my blog. Might be interesting for some of you
when did you get the g35? do you think you'll keep it?
it's one of those lenses that i avoid shooting wide open not because it's unsharp, but because the focus transitions and bokeh are both so harsh. at f/4 both have mostly cleared up nicely...
a couple portraits with the rollei zeiss 50/1.4:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1550/24720498350_69e87bf652_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1633/24922722791_acef5359b0_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1487/24720498650_056f76f06a_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1514/24897989382_ff4b9a0c4b_o.jpg
There is also a new Voigtlander 5.6/12 Review on my blog. Might be interesting for some of you
when did you get the g35? do you think you'll keep it?
it's one of those lenses that i avoid shooting wide open not because it's unsharp, but because the focus transitions and bokeh are both so harsh. at f/4 both have mostly cleared up nicely...
a couple portraits with the rollei zeiss 50/1.4:
Feb 14, 2016 at 10:56 AM
p.1428 #15Sony FE Images Thread
I ventured outside to put some seed out for the Horned Larks and took this shot of some of the drifts.
A7R Zeiss MP50mm
© Mnd1 2016
A7R Zeiss MP50mm
Feb 14, 2016 at 10:59 AM
p.1428 #16Sony FE Images Thread
Some stormy skies from clearing storm (2015 June)
Zeiss Loxia 2/50 FE @ f/11.0, HDR(1/8s, 1/30s 1/125s), ILCE-7 @ ISO 100
Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2.8/25 CY @ f/11.0, HDR(1/5s,1/20s 1/80s), ILCE-7R @ ISO 100
Zeiss Loxia 2/50 FE @ f/11.0, HDR(1/4s, 1/15s, 1/60s), ILCE-7 @ ISO 100
Samuli
Zeiss Loxia 2/50 FE @ f/11.0, HDR(1/8s, 1/30s 1/125s), ILCE-7 @ ISO 100
Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2.8/25 CY @ f/11.0, HDR(1/5s,1/20s 1/80s), ILCE-7R @ ISO 100
Zeiss Loxia 2/50 FE @ f/11.0, HDR(1/4s, 1/15s, 1/60s), ILCE-7 @ ISO 100
Samuli
Feb 14, 2016 at 11:13 AM
p.1428 #17Sony FE Images Thread
Coldest day today in Boston since 1957 apparently
Feb 14, 2016 at 11:20 AM
p.1428 #18Sony FE Images Thread
A7+Zeiss Sonnar 2,8/135
Porto by V Nascimento, en Flickr
Porto by V Nascimento, en FlickrFeb 14, 2016 at 11:59 AM
p.1428 #19Sony FE Images Thread
sebboh wrote:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1633/24922722791_acef5359b0_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1487/24720498650_056f76f06a_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1514/24897989382_ff4b9a0c4b_o.jpg
There is also a new Voigtlander 5.6/12 Review on my blog. Might be interesting for some of youwhen did you get the g35? do you think you'll keep it?
it's one of those lenses that i avoid shooting wide open not because it's unsharp, but because the focus transitions and bokeh are both so harsh. at f/4 both have mostly cleared up nicely...
A reader of my blog borrowed me the Techart Adapter + G35,G45 and G90. Yesterday was the first time I really used it so I have very little experience with it yet.
I think I underestimated it initially and might warm up toward it, the size is certainly very nice and I like it's character.
Have you put yours in a proper housing yet? And how do you like it for landscape photography? I ran one test series with focus on the center but when I look at the MTF diagram that was a mistake.
I also had problems with massive veiling flare if the sun is in the image even though the Techart adapter is flocked and there are no reflective parts.
Phillip Reeve wrote
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1550/24720498350_69e87bf652_o.jpghttps://farm2.staticflickr.com/1633/24922722791_acef5359b0_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1487/24720498650_056f76f06a_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1514/24897989382_ff4b9a0c4b_o.jpg
There is also a new Voigtlander 5.6/12 Review on my blog. Might be interesting for some of you
it's one of those lenses that i avoid shooting wide open not because it's unsharp, but because the focus transitions and bokeh are both so harsh. at f/4 both have mostly cleared up nicely...
A reader of my blog borrowed me the Techart Adapter + G35,G45 and G90. Yesterday was the first time I really used it so I have very little experience with it yet.
I think I underestimated it initially and might warm up toward it, the size is certainly very nice and I like it's character.
Have you put yours in a proper housing yet? And how do you like it for landscape photography? I ran one test series with focus on the center but when I look at the MTF diagram that was a mistake.
I also had problems with massive veiling flare if the sun is in the image even though the Techart adapter is flocked and there are no reflective parts.
Feb 14, 2016 at 11:59 AM
p.1428 #20Sony FE Images Thread
Mannheim
The Restaurant Ship by Werner Utsch, on Flickr
Spectacular shot , valodia!
Congrats !
Feb 14, 2016 at 12:09 PM