Sony FE Images Thread
p.1417 #1Sony FE Images Thread
ManuelLaMantia wrote:
Ok guys, I realized Joshua, besides to be a great photographer (my personal opinion is more near to consider him a genius) is also addicted to this thread 
Manuel
Manuel, thank you but I saw your images earlier today and yours are as good, if not better than mine. Don't sell yourself short, buddy!
Peter T wrote:
Wonderful!
And at the other end of the scale of females wearing heavy make up or masks, here is a ewe (pronounced oooo in the local dialect) that has somehow managed to apply some of the blue numbering colour as eye
Thanks, Peter!
AGeoJO wrote
Another capture of Anne-Sophie at the Mask Carnival in Venice. Manuel
Manuel, thank you but I saw your images earlier today and yours are as good, if not better than mine. Don't sell yourself short, buddy!
Peter T wrote:
AGeoJO wrote
Another capture of Anne-Sophie at the Mask Carnival in Venice.And at the other end of the scale of females wearing heavy make up or masks, here is a ewe (pronounced oooo in the local dialect) that has somehow managed to apply some of the blue numbering colour as eye
Thanks, Peter!
Feb 08, 2016 at 04:24 PM
p.1417 #2Sony FE Images Thread
I love this last shot Joshua! Do you mind sharing your focus settings used?
Feb 08, 2016 at 04:41 PM
p.1417 #3Sony FE Images Thread
Exactly right, Manuel!
ManuelLaMantia wrote:
Ok guys, I realized Joshua, besides to be a great photographer (my personal opinion is more near to consider him a genius) is also addicted to this thread
Manuel
Feb 08, 2016 at 05:26 PM
p.1417 #4Sony FE Images Thread
Ronny Olsson wrote:
Spain was my next vacation destination but, after Ronny, I may have to put that plan on ice.
Spain was my next vacation destination but, after Ronny, I may have to put that plan on ice.
Feb 08, 2016 at 05:33 PM
p.1417 #5Sony FE Images Thread
Jochenb wrote:
Landscape shooting is something I don't do so much - Finland is so damn flat country that most of my landscape shooting is done when I'm travelling. During "the era of A7" I have not taken either, C/Y or ZE, Planar 1.4/50 to my travels. When I was in Grete on 2014 I used FE55 and on 2015 in Tenerife I used Loxia as a normal lens. So in addition to test images, I have only shoot few random frames of landscapes with ZE 1.4/50 = I may have missed this.
With other lenses there have been random bad suprices due to thick sensor cover glass, for example C/Y Distagon is much worse in A7 and A7r compared to 5DmkII in corners of image. I hope that Kolari modification will also improve multiple lenses, which are borderline case like Contax G 2/45, Contax C/Y 2.8/28 and Zeiss ZE 2/28 - maybe also Zeiss ZE 1.4/50.I didn't expect any difference either, but sadly there is. I quickly vizualised the issue. A test shot on the original A7, @ F8. Focused on the trees in the background. Everything that's in focus is painted over with red: example field curvature
Look how curved the plane of focus is. Almost the whole center is out of focus. When I focus more to the foreground the opposite happens: everything that's now painted in red (in focus) will be out of focus. So annoying.
When I examine my old 5DII photos with this lens things look completely different. A much milder...Show more →
i know i've seen this before, but the more i see it the crazier it seems.
here's an aperture series with my rollei zeiss 50/1.4 planar (seems to perform comparably to the c/y:
for what it's worth here is the aperture series with my rollei:
f/1.4
f/2
f/2.8
f/4
f/5.6
f/8
f/11
seems good enough for me at f/5.6, just a bit behind the g45, and no major field curvature. i don't know why zeiss would make the ZE so much worse.
Samuli Vahonen wrote
Hmmm, I have not noticed so big difference between A7r (/A7) and 5DmkII, actually none with 50mm Planar. Are you sure absolute amount of focus shift has changed significantly OR are you comparing 100% pixels when A7rII will have much more focus shift?Landscape shooting is something I don't do so much - Finland is so damn flat country that most of my landscape shooting is done when I'm travelling. During "the era of A7" I have not taken either, C/Y or ZE, Planar 1.4/50 to my travels. When I was in Grete on 2014 I used FE55 and on 2015 in Tenerife I used Loxia as a normal lens. So in addition to test images, I have only shoot few random frames of landscapes with ZE 1.4/50 = I may have missed this.
With other lenses there have been random bad suprices due to thick sensor cover glass, for example C/Y Distagon is much worse in A7 and A7r compared to 5DmkII in corners of image. I hope that Kolari modification will also improve multiple lenses, which are borderline case like Contax G 2/45, Contax C/Y 2.8/28 and Zeiss ZE 2/28 - maybe also Zeiss ZE 1.4/50.
Look how curved the plane of focus is. Almost the whole center is out of focus. When I focus more to the foreground the opposite happens: everything that's now painted in red (in focus) will be out of focus. So annoying.
When I examine my old 5DII photos with this lens things look completely different. A much milder...Show more →
i know i've seen this before, but the more i see it the crazier it seems.
here's an aperture series with my rollei zeiss 50/1.4 planar (seems to perform comparably to the c/y:
for what it's worth here is the aperture series with my rollei:
f/1.4
f/2
f/2.8
f/4
f/5.6
f/8
f/11
seems good enough for me at f/5.6, just a bit behind the g45, and no major field curvature. i don't know why zeiss would make the ZE so much worse.
Feb 08, 2016 at 06:02 PM
p.1417 #6Sony FE Images Thread
Croatia, A7:
Samobor Castle - 360 by Falcdragon, on Flickr
Arena Zagreb across Jarun by Falcdragon, on Flickr
Samobor Castle - 360 by Falcdragon, on FlickrArena Zagreb across Jarun by Falcdragon, on Flickr
Feb 08, 2016 at 06:03 PM
p.1417 #7Sony FE Images Thread
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
I have tried this scientifical approach and it's quaranteed to kill my interest to photography - and in record time. Reminds me of sitting on the boring glassed on technical university...yawn... When I have done this I find I always "prefer" the lens which is better at 100% pixel peeping, but which I may hate in real life shooting because it doesn't deliver what I actually want.
But I know people who can do this all day and get kicks from it. So as usual what makes world interesting is people and how different we are. From the tests...Show more →
Thanks for the response, Samuli, and it looks from the 'likes' that other folks are with you - but I've also used this approach to try and get at things like bokeh transitions and overall rendering, and I've learned a lot from it, so to me it is a bit of 'both-and' rather than 'either-or'. Perhaps you could come down to NZ with just a small selection from your lens collection and we could do some 'both-and' field testing in our landscapes - no boring inside setups...
John
I have tried this scientifical approach and it's quaranteed to kill my interest to photography - and in record time. Reminds me of sitting on the boring glassed on technical university...yawn... When I have done this I find I always "prefer" the lens which is better at 100% pixel peeping, but which I may hate in real life shooting because it doesn't deliver what I actually want.
But I know people who can do this all day and get kicks from it. So as usual what makes world interesting is people and how different we are. From the tests...Show more →
Thanks for the response, Samuli, and it looks from the 'likes' that other folks are with you - but I've also used this approach to try and get at things like bokeh transitions and overall rendering, and I've learned a lot from it, so to me it is a bit of 'both-and' rather than 'either-or'. Perhaps you could come down to NZ with just a small selection from your lens collection and we could do some 'both-and' field testing in our landscapes - no boring inside setups...
John
Feb 08, 2016 at 06:16 PM
p.1417 #9Sony FE Images Thread
Stay out of the water in North Queensland. A7 + 16-35 and Canon FD 135
Feb 08, 2016 at 08:00 PM
p.1417 #10Sony FE Images Thread
Gary Clennan wrote:
I love this last shot Joshua! Do you mind sharing your focus settings used?
Thanks, Gary! The camera was on Face Detection AF and the mode I used was "Wide". I just had to make sure that the hand of Anne-Sophie and as such, also the pigeon to be parallel to her head. Frankly, I didn't dare to keep the aperture to be completely wide open in this case.
bobbytan wrote:
Exactly right, Manuel!
Manuel
yeah, guilty as charged! Like right now when at 4:00AM when I woke up early, 2 hours earlier than I planned, I had to go on-line. Well, I will be going through images I took earlier yesterday but indeed,
I love this last shot Joshua! Do you mind sharing your focus settings used?
Thanks, Gary! The camera was on Face Detection AF and the mode I used was "Wide". I just had to make sure that the hand of Anne-Sophie and as such, also the pigeon to be parallel to her head. Frankly, I didn't dare to keep the aperture to be completely wide open in this case.
bobbytan wrote:
Exactly right, Manuel!
ManuelLaMantia wrote
Ok guys, I realized Joshua, besides to be a great photographer (my personal opinion is more near to consider him a genius) is also addicted to this thread Manuel
yeah, guilty as charged! Like right now when at 4:00AM when I woke up early, 2 hours earlier than I planned, I had to go on-line. Well, I will be going through images I took earlier yesterday but indeed, Feb 08, 2016 at 08:40 PM
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p.1417 #11Sony FE Images Thread
Another stunning shot, Joshua. Keep Em coming!
And aren't we all addicted to this thread? Hehe
And aren't we all addicted to this thread? Hehe
Feb 08, 2016 at 10:01 PM
p.1417 #13Sony FE Images Thread
This was once a school. A7 and Canon FDn 28 mm f2.8 @ f8
The old school house by Mattias Ljunggren, on Flickr
The old school house by Mattias Ljunggren, on FlickrFeb 09, 2016 at 02:08 AM
p.1417 #14Sony FE Images Thread
I was this last weekend in Portugal in a town called Guarda, to have some good time and see their Carnival, it was very fun and the people very friendly.
I used mostly the Batis 85 and the Sony 35 2.8 with the A7RII in these shots:
I used mostly the Batis 85 and the Sony 35 2.8 with the A7RII in these shots:
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Feb 09, 2016 at 02:17 AM
p.1417 #15Sony FE Images Thread
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Look how curved the plane of focus is. Almost the whole center is out of focus. When I focus more to the foreground the opposite happens: everything that's now painted in red (in focus) will be out of focus. So annoying.
When I examine my old 5DII photos with this lens things look completely different. A much milder forward field curvature. The lens was already useful at F5.6 for landscapes.Question: have you knocked the lens hard or dropped it to hard surface between shooting with 5DII and A7?
Why I'm asking? I have seen this exact same behaviour earlier, but with 5DmkII. A fellow Finnish photographer had ZE 1.4/50, which worked exactly this way with his 5DmkII few years ago. To demonstrate he made similar picture, but he used ripe cornfield (quite homogenous) and sharpened the image 10+ times and it clearly visualized identical field curvature as your red overlay. He had a loooooooong fight with the Finnish importing company and Zeiss - that ended up sadly, when...Show more →
Interesting story about your fellow Finnish photographer. I tried 2 different copies of the 50/1.4 ZF.2 on my A7 cameras and both were exactly the same. No misalignment or decentering, only that more pronounced curved focus plane. Even on the 12MP A7S. Because of this I also tried more than one adapter... but still the same results.
It's also very noticeable when shooting in portrait orientation. For example: when I shoot a larger free standing tree that's at a distance of +15m and focus on the center of the tree... The zone of focus goes from almost my feet to the center of the tree and back towards me at the top. The bottom and top of the tree are out of focus. With careful focus you can get the whole tree in focus, but the focal plane is always much more curved than when I used the lens on a Canon camera. I hardly had any weird surprised, just like you. It was great for landscapes. Most ZE/ZF lenses that I shot on the A7 were fine, but this one and the 18 are most problematic for me.
It'll be interesting to see how the lens works for you on the A7 cameras.
Jochenb wrote
Everything that's in focus is painted over with red: example field curvatureLook how curved the plane of focus is. Almost the whole center is out of focus. When I focus more to the foreground the opposite happens: everything that's now painted in red (in focus) will be out of focus. So annoying.
When I examine my old 5DII photos with this lens things look completely different. A much milder forward field curvature. The lens was already useful at F5.6 for landscapes.
Why I'm asking? I have seen this exact same behaviour earlier, but with 5DmkII. A fellow Finnish photographer had ZE 1.4/50, which worked exactly this way with his 5DmkII few years ago. To demonstrate he made similar picture, but he used ripe cornfield (quite homogenous) and sharpened the image 10+ times and it clearly visualized identical field curvature as your red overlay. He had a loooooooong fight with the Finnish importing company and Zeiss - that ended up sadly, when...Show more →
Interesting story about your fellow Finnish photographer. I tried 2 different copies of the 50/1.4 ZF.2 on my A7 cameras and both were exactly the same. No misalignment or decentering, only that more pronounced curved focus plane. Even on the 12MP A7S. Because of this I also tried more than one adapter... but still the same results.
It's also very noticeable when shooting in portrait orientation. For example: when I shoot a larger free standing tree that's at a distance of +15m and focus on the center of the tree... The zone of focus goes from almost my feet to the center of the tree and back towards me at the top. The bottom and top of the tree are out of focus. With careful focus you can get the whole tree in focus, but the focal plane is always much more curved than when I used the lens on a Canon camera. I hardly had any weird surprised, just like you. It was great for landscapes. Most ZE/ZF lenses that I shot on the A7 were fine, but this one and the 18 are most problematic for me.
It'll be interesting to see how the lens works for you on the A7 cameras.
Feb 09, 2016 at 03:54 AM
p.1417 #16Sony FE Images Thread
One more shot from the shores of Lake Michigan
Feb 09, 2016 at 05:02 AM
p.1417 #17Sony FE Images Thread
Peter T wrote:
These are the first shots with my C/Y 180 f2.8 (at f2.8) on my relatively new A7R II
Great! The lens doesn't have the best reputation but the bokeh seems to be very nice. Did you correct the chromatic aberrations?
These are the first shots with my C/Y 180 f2.8 (at f2.8) on my relatively new A7R II
Great! The lens doesn't have the best reputation but the bokeh seems to be very nice. Did you correct the chromatic aberrations?
Feb 09, 2016 at 05:58 AM
p.1417 #18Sony FE Images Thread
Photo taken October 17, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Big Meadows, Shenandoah NP, Virginia. Image taken with my tripod mounted A7r and my Leica M 90mm f2.5 Summarit lens, ISO 100, lens set to f11 for 1/25 second. Exposure corrected by +0.12 stops. Processed in LR6.
Rich
Rich
Feb 09, 2016 at 06:18 AM
p.1417 #19Sony FE Images Thread
Cross posted from the Loxia 21 thread...
Sony a7R II + Loxia 21 (@ f/8)
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Feb 09, 2016 at 07:17 AM
p.1417 #20Sony FE Images Thread
Sony A7S, MD 35-70 /3.5
https://goo.gl/photos/vNjgxSKuWKBTRM9dA
https://goo.gl/photos/vNjgxSKuWKBTRM9dA
Feb 09, 2016 at 08:21 AM