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The 58mm F/1.4G Thread

  
 
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p.66 #1 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Elijah wrote:
This is normal! My D3s and DF both have a +15 adjustment.

A shot from today. This lens continues to amaze me... I’ll post a few more from this mini senior photoshoot.


Reminds me of Sam Hurd's work a little bit!!! Good stuff!



Nov 11, 2014 at 07:26 PM
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p.66 #2 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Nikon 58mm f/1.4G by discoverfilm, on Flickr


Nov 11, 2014 at 09:07 PM
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p.66 #3 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


ohsnaphappy wrote:
Reminds me of Sam Hurd's work a little bit!!! Good stuff!


Thank you, sir! Here’s some more... I’m a sucker for 1.4!




























Nov 11, 2014 at 09:21 PM
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p.66 #4 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Need some help from the folks who have been using this lens for a while. Do you think below image is sharp enough and inline with what I should be expecting from this lens?

This is with +18 and probably sharpest image I am getting. Is it good enough to keep or I shall exchange it for another copy?




Nov 12, 2014 at 10:51 AM
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p.66 #5 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


What calibration method are you using Sagar


Nov 12, 2014 at 11:02 AM
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p.66 #6 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Sagar wrote:

Need some help from the folks who have been using this lens for a while. Do you think below image is sharp enough and inline with what I should be expecting from this lens?

This is with +18 and probably sharpest image I am getting. Is it good enough to keep or I shall exchange it for another copy?

http://sagar.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v113/p1027055072-5.jpg


I think you're expecting way too much out of this lens. As you may already know from the major reviews, this lens isn't the sharpest prime Nikon produces. This isn't your typical 85mm f/1.4G or 200mm f/2.0VRII.

To answer your question, yes, that looks pretty sharp to me. (I assume that's a 100% crop?)



Nov 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM
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p.66 #7 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Elijah,
I have no intention to challenge sharpness of this lens. It's just that I don't know how sharp it should be to call it a good copy that's why posting a question here. That's all. (And you are right this is 100% crop.)

Mark,
I am not using scientific method per say. I just took pictures as I would normally take and then changing AF Fine tune keeping everything else constant



Nov 12, 2014 at 12:14 PM
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p.66 #8 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Sagar look into the dottune method . I have been pleased with it and its free


Nov 12, 2014 at 12:35 PM
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p.66 #9 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Sagar wrote:

Need some help from the folks who have been using this lens for a while. Do you think below image is sharp enough and inline with what I should be expecting from this lens?

This is with +18 and probably sharpest image I am getting. Is it good enough to keep or I shall exchange it for another copy?

http://sagar.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v113/p1027055072-5.jpg


First, don't take test shots like this. Take real shots. The 58 will always look like sh*t shooting test shots. Try a portait, that will give you a better idea. Second, yes there are bad copies, imo, there are LOTS of bad copies. So don't be hesitant to exchange it. There are several folks who didn't find a good copy until their third lens came in.

Edited on Nov 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM · View previous versions



Nov 12, 2014 at 12:47 PM
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p.66 #10 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Sagar wrote:

Need some help from the folks who have been using this lens for a while. Do you think below image is sharp enough and inline with what I should be expecting from this lens?

This is with +18 and probably sharpest image I am getting. Is it good enough to keep or I shall exchange it for another copy?

http://sagar.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v113/p1027055072-5.jpg


If you're worried about sharpness, why do it with a tune? Shoot in live view wide open to determine if the lens is capable of being sharp. THEN start tuning to match.



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p.66 #11 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Sagar wrote:

Need some help from the folks who have been using this lens for a while. Do you think below image is sharp enough and inline with what I should be expecting from this lens?

This is with +18 and probably sharpest image I am getting. Is it good enough to keep or I shall exchange it for another copy?

http://sagar.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v113/p1027055072-5.jpg


the light looks very dim. so its giving the affect of the edges softer than they really are. the text looks pretty good..mine kind of looks like that as well in terms of sharpness, i normally bump the sharpness in the camera profile just for my personal taste on jpegs.



Nov 12, 2014 at 12:53 PM
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p.66 #12 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


ohsnaphappy wrote:
First, don't take test shots like this. Take real shots. The 58 will always look like sh*t shooting test shots. Try a portait, that will give you a better idea. Second, yes there are bad copies, imo, there are LOTS of bad copies. So don't be hesitant to exchange it. There are several folks who didn't find a good copy until their third lens came in.


You no longer have your 58G, do you?



Nov 12, 2014 at 01:43 PM
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p.66 #13 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


low325 wrote:
the light looks very dim. so its giving the affect of the edges softer than they really are. the text looks pretty good..mine kind of looks like that as well in terms of sharpness, i normally bump the sharpness in the camera profile just for my personal taste on jpegs.


Thanks for the feedback. I agree about bad and dim lighting. I got home in evening so just thought of taking quick snaps to check if its good enough. I will do more testing today in better light and then start posting "actual" pictures

lifthard2001 wrote:
Sagar look into the dottune method . I have been pleased with it and its free


Thank you so much! that's looks great. I will try it later today.

For others, don't get so defensive after reading word sharpness in 58mm thread . As I mentioned, I had no intention to return lens because its not sharp. I have seen each and every image in this thread and I know what I am getting into. I just want to make sure my copy is good enough to keep. that's all




Nov 12, 2014 at 02:03 PM
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p.66 #14 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Sagar wrote:

Need some help from the folks who have been using this lens for a while. Do you think below image is sharp enough and inline with what I should be expecting from this lens?

This is with +18 and probably sharpest image I am getting. Is it good enough to keep or I shall exchange it for another copy?

http://sagar.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v113/p1027055072-5.jpg


Two things:

-How far were you from the subject? (this looks like a typical 58 shot at MFD)
-Can you post a full pic of this shot? (not a crop)



Nov 12, 2014 at 02:16 PM
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p.66 #15 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Part of the reason it looks soft is because the low contrast the lens has wide open. Add a touch of clarity, contrast and some slight sharpening and it will look great.

You have to be careful though because by doing that your also changing the bokeh. A brush technique works great with this lens to apply selective adjustments to the image.



Nov 12, 2014 at 02:24 PM
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p.66 #16 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Sagar wrote:
Okay I gave in and bought this lens. Who've I have yet to do fine tune properly, looks like my lens requires somewhere between +14 to +18

Is that normal or shall I exchange for another copy?


All my 1.4G lenses(24, 35, 85 and 58) need between +5 to +18 on either my now sold D800E and my new D750.



Nov 12, 2014 at 11:44 PM
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p.66 #17 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


I see all the Fine tunes on the positive side mine ended up on the neg side -2 on my DF.Am I the only one with the neg #s


Nov 13, 2014 at 07:09 AM
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p.66 #18 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


I have zero tune on my 58.

In my experience, the 58 is an inconsistent focuser. You guys need to strap the camera down and take multiple shots to get an average of where it's hitting, or else tuning will be an exercise in insanity. Hell, that seems to hold true for most lenses I've owned. If I thought they needed a tune, they were just inconsistent and a tune only made things worse.

Edit - My current 85 is the only lens I've ever kept a tune in.

To test for an inconsistent lens; do dot tune, but do it with different subjects in different light.



Nov 13, 2014 at 07:41 AM
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p.66 #19 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Jason, you are right about inconsistent focus with the D800 series but my D750 is much better at it. It is much worse with my 1Dx in low light.

Still, I need to keep a AF Tune for all my lenses to get sharp pictures.

You are lucky not having to fine tune your AF.



Nov 13, 2014 at 08:01 AM
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p.66 #20 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


I'm actually very happy with the focus consistency on my D800. I'm sure the D750 is better, but the I have the 58mm dialed in nicely on my D800 @ +8.




Nov 13, 2014 at 08:28 AM
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