cvrle59 wrote:
I could post this in 28mm F1.4E thread too, but I decided to do it here. It doesn't really matter.
I'm wondering if Nikon is going to be able to produce this kind of magic on Z mount and when.
Almost every image here is a jaw dropping one, it looks so easy, almost, you can't get a bad one with these two lenses.
I know, it's not true, they are in good hands, but they are different than anything else, too.
Camera bodies come and go, but these lenses I just love. It is still why I will keep the D850 rather than just moving to the Z6 alone. I am sure Z mount lenses like this will come particularly the 50/1.2S.
Hardcore wrote:
Over time, the 58mm has also become a favourite landscape lens for me. I love the natural perspective it lends, especially in the mountains where a wide angle lens tend to distort things a bit too much.
If you are not shooting landscapes at with this lens at 1.4, I'm not talking to you from now on. It's a given. And you know it!!!!!!!!!
Hardcore wrote:
Over time, the 58mm has also become a favourite landscape lens for me. I love the natural perspective it lends, especially in the mountains where a wide angle lens tend to distort things a bit too much.
Sony user here, and I'm absolutely enamored by the output of this lens. Definitely has some special sauce on it. And at only 385g? Wonder how the AF is with a smart adapter. All my lenses are manual focus anyway.
akashyap wrote:
Sony user here, and I'm absolutely enamored by the output of this lens. Definitely has some special sauce on it. And at only 385g? Wonder how the AF is with a smart adapter. All my lenses are manual focus anyway.
Can't speak for the nikon to Sony adapter but on a Z6 with FTZ adapter, the focus speed is about the same as on my D610 but with much better accuracy at all distances.
I’ve used it on the commlite on my A7riii , works with eye af and accurate. Only to be used on stationary static subjects though
akashyap wrote:
Sony user here, and I'm absolutely enamored by the output of this lens. Definitely has some special sauce on it. And at only 385g? Wonder how the AF is with a smart adapter. All my lenses are manual focus anyway.
For those of us who treasure the Neo-Noct, it is interesting to read the Lenstip review of the 58 f1.4G, in the summary of which the author quoted the official commentary at its release, in what was construed as a comical conclusion to the poor scores awarded (!) to quote: "It seems, though, that only Zeiss was serious about it and Nikon was joking all along, trying to sell you a rough piece of trash for a lot of money under a cover of a storied Nikon legacy. I really don’t intend to torture the tested Nikkor any longer because it is not worth the time and trouble. However, in order to finish this test with a comical accent let me quote the words of one of Nikon company representatives, published on the day of the launch as the official press release." https://www.lenstip.com/397.11-Lens_review-Nikon_Nikkor_AF-S_58_mm_f_1.4G_Summary.html
chambeshi wrote:
For those of us who treasure the Neo-Noct, it is interesting to read the Lenstip review of the 58 f1.4G, in the summary of which the author quoted the official commentary at its release, in what was construed as a comical conclusion to the poor scores awarded (!) to quote: "It seems, though, that only Zeiss was serious about it and Nikon was joking all along, trying to sell you a rough piece of trash for a lot of money under a cover of a storied Nikon legacy. I really don’t intend to torture the tested Nikkor any longer because it is not worth the time and trouble. However, in order to finish this test with a comical accent let me quote the words of one of Nikon company representatives, published on the day of the launch as the official press release." https://www.lenstip.com/397.11-Lens_review-Nikon_Nikkor_AF-S_58_mm_f_1.4G_Summary.html...Show more →
part of this official statement by Nikon Europe: "Its properties and parameters exceed standard measurement conventions. A unique character of that model can only be appreciated when you look at the photos. Few lenses go down in history as »classic« but the AF-S NIKKOR 58 mm f/1.4G deserves that name." (Zurab Kiknadze, European Product Manager in the lenses, accessories and software department of Nikon Europe)"
so it's interesting to compare bokeh comparisons on DPR of the top tier portrait lenses. The Neo-Noct is unique, truly: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58419187
"The first thing we look for, to produce smooth, soft background bokeh, is a blur circle with a nicely diffused perimeter - as opposed to a bright-ring perimeter. We see that both the 58G and the Sigma achieve this, but the 58G has an even more expansive and diffuse outer circle. No other lens that I have tested can achieve that to the same degree (other than a DC lens with extreme DC-ring positions), and this gives the 58G the smooth backgrounds that it is so well known for, in addition to its low-contrast "dreamy" look when used wide open. .....
....Now we can see what the attributes described in 1) and 2) above are giving us in our images. First of all, when the 58G goes out of focus, it does so without introducing ugly harshness at high-contrast edges; transitions are smooth and pleasant.
But the real benefit that I'm driving to with all of this discussion, is the amount of visible detail that will exist in the photograph. We often say "very little is in focus" of our wide-aperture images due to the extremely tight DOF. It would be a huge improvement, if there were some way to extend the visible detail beyond the usual DOF.
That is exactly what the 58G is doing! Look at the scales in the Sigma example - how far from the focus point, can you still read the numbers, or see the separation between the mm markings? Now examine the scale in the 58G example - you can read detail much further from the focus point. There is a range of usable detail that would require stopping down to about f/2.8 with most lenses, yet it's an f/1.4 image with all of the desirable bokeh qualities that such an aperture brings."
Marianne Oelund's charts in both of those threads haven't loaded for me in months. I alerted her to it and she never responded. Maybe I'm the only one?!
But yeah, her posts analyzing the OOF pinpoint light sources as captured by various lenses, including the 58/1.4g, are out of this world good. She is such an asset to the Nikon community. I'll ping her again and see what's up with those missing charts.
