I have been using 58g for 3 years and still love it. I’m also about to get the cron R 50 e55, how do you use it in nikon body? Any comment on this lens as compared to 58g would also be nice. Thanks!
charles.K wrote:
The 50L is a great lens and the 58G is a speciality lens. Both are excellent and similar yet different. I have owned the 50 Lux Asph, 50 Nocti f/1.0, 50 Cron Cron IV and now also the Leica R 50 Cron Mandler for the different types of look. I have the 50/1.4G, 50/1.8G, 50 Art, 58G and 50 Cron R Mandler. My go to lenses are the 50 Art and 58G. Personally I love the 58G but it is not for everyone
I have been using 58g for 3 years and still love it. I’m also about to get the cron R 50 e55, how do you use it in nikon body? Any comment on this lens as compared to 58g would also be nice. Thanks!
The Leica R 50 Cron Mandler is a special lens with slower intent using the manual focus confirmation dots. It works really well. In terms of IQ and feel the two lenses are very different. I love the R 50 Cron but I don't use it often with the MF. I think I have become tired and lazy of using MF
I'm curious how much AF fine tune adjustment people are having to dial in. I just did AF fine tune on my D850, and I got to 19+ adjustment. Great news is that it is very sharp wide open now, but I'm surprised it required so much dialed in.
sungphoto wrote:
I'm curious how much AF fine tune adjustment people are having to dial in. I just did AF fine tune on my D850, and I got to 19+ adjustment. Great news is that it is very sharp wide open now, but I'm surprised it required so much dialed in.
Mine was a +17 adjustment. Reading a few articles online, adjustments in the +18 range seems fairly commonplace. Agree that with the adjustment able to get pics in focus wide open without much trouble.
sungphoto wrote:
I'm curious how much AF fine tune adjustment people are having to dial in. I just did AF fine tune on my D850, and I got to 19+ adjustment. Great news is that it is very sharp wide open now, but I'm surprised it required so much dialed in.
I have mentioned this a few times that the AF fine tune correction can be high. I have had three copies and they ranged from +15 to +20. I spoke to the head guy at the Nikon repair center in Brisbane and he mentioned this is quite normal for the 58G. My last copy of the 58G had a correction also +19 and I sent it in to be calibrated in house and I now have a correction of 0 on D850 The re-calibration was done on the bench and took 1 hour.
Raticus wrote:
Mine was a +17 adjustment. Reading a few articles online, adjustments in the +18 range seems fairly commonplace. Agree that with the adjustment able to get pics in focus wide open without much trouble.
Hm that aligns with one of my bodies. One body averages to 19+ adjustment (after a second try to make sure) and the other averages +8.
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charles.K wrote:
I have mentioned this a few times that the AF fine tune correction can be high. I have had three copies and they ranged from +15 to +20. I spoke to the head guy at the Nikon repair center in Brisbane and he mentioned this is quite normal for the 58G. My last copy of the 58G had a correction also +19 and I sent it in to be calibrated in house and I now have a correction of 0 on D850 The re-calibration was done on the bench and took 1 hour.
sungphoto wrote:
Hm that aligns with one of my bodies. One body averages to 19+ adjustment (after a second try to make sure) and the other averages +8.
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Nice! Was it covered under warranty?
Nikon in Australia is very good. Yes the 58G was under warranty but they have also adjusted lenses not covered warranty for no charge
sungphoto wrote:
Nice! Which adapter are you using? In the past Nikon glass was pretty much useless on the sony bodies adapted so good to hear the adapters are catching up a bit.
sungphoto wrote:
Hm that aligns with one of my bodies. One body averages to 19+ adjustment (after a second try to make sure) and the other averages +8.
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Nice! Was it covered under warranty?
CharlesK, that is a nice result from Nikon service and is reassuring they could tune it to a zero. It's interesting though that the AF Fine tune can vary from camera to camera, did Nikon also have your camera? I've owned five Nikon 1.8G primes, and they all required an AF Tune of one degree or another, always in the "+" direction, they seem to front focus. Once adjusted I've been very happy with the performance wide open. It's a bit of an arduous process though, but at least only have to do it one time. With the 58 I was worried it was going to hit +20, and then for sure I would have returned it, or perhaps sent it to Nikon service. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Raticus wrote:
CharlesK, that is a nice result from Nikon service and is reassuring they could tune it to a zero. It's interesting though that the AF Fine tune can vary from camera to camera, did Nikon also have your camera? I've owned five Nikon 1.8G primes, and they all required an AF Tune of one degree or another, always in the "+" direction, they seem to front focus. Once adjusted I've been very happy with the performance wide open. It's a bit of an arduous process though, but at least only have to do it one time. With the 58 I was worried it was going to hit +20, and then for sure I would have returned it, or perhaps sent it to Nikon service. Thank you for sharing your experience.
You are welcome Agreed. I'm not too concerned with AF fine tune values so long as they are within the range +/- 2 of the max. My other 58G's did not adjust to 0 but were reduced to +10 and +14. It is interesting the newer E lenses virtually require no correction
Other interesting point is after the last FW update on the D850 my AF fine tune values lessened with a number of lenses.
I have been re calibrating my 58G this afternoon with Reikan FoCal software. I have opted for this method as the 58G can be quirky to calibrate. The FoCal software worked really well and I could then visualize the spread of the all the data points and see how the lens performed.
Shot with the D850 and 58G of Marisa in our office
sungphoto wrote:
I'm curious how much AF fine tune adjustment people are having to dial in. I just did AF fine tune on my D850, and I got to 19+ adjustment. Great news is that it is very sharp wide open now, but I'm surprised it required so much dialed in.
Mine is +4 on a D850 for both f/1.4 and f/2 (where I shoot the most), and a bit higher on the D810. The lens was bought refurbished from Nikon USA a couple of years ago.
You can see the measurements using FocusTune at the link below. The spread of sample points at each AFFT setting is very tight, which means the lens gives consistent focusing. There are other lenses, including Nikons, that don't have nearly as tight a pattern. In actual use, the lens AF is also accurate. FWIW, I have a 24/1.8G that needs a +18 tune, but it's accurate at that setting on the D850. On the D810, it would have problems with the outer AF points.
cope07 wrote:
What's you setup/procedure with FoCal. I never got it to work worth a damn
FoCal is very simple. Just a tripod with the printed FoCal target on the wall. With the 58G the distance is 2.9m optimally. Just check the setup, distance/lighting/AF-S and Single and then move to calibration. The other hint is to buy a USB extension cable as it is frustrating trying to juggle the laptop and with the short Nikon USB lead.
It will prompt you to set the AF fine tune value between measurements. After about 5 minutes you will have a statistical curve across the measurements. If the fit is very good or excellent no need to extend measurements for more points.
I specifically like the FoCal for the 58G as it can be a difficult lens to calibrate across f/1.4 to f/5.6
