chrisfphotog wrote:
Just a couple from a recent e-session.
Hey Chris,
Nice images, if its ok I'd like to ask you bout the second image? I had thought that maybe the chap in the foreground might not be sharp due to motion blur because of a slow shutter speed, although I see that the exif says it was 1/640 which would suggest to me that I would have expected him to be sharp?
Don't get me wrong here I really like the image, Im just curious about how you created it if you don't mind sharing.
Thanks
Rob
Rob UK wrote:
Hey Chris,
Nice images, if its ok I'd like to ask you bout the second image? I had thought that maybe the chap in the foreground might not be sharp due to motion blur because of a slow shutter speed, although I see that the exif says it was 1/640 which would suggest to me that I would have expected him to be sharp?
Don't get me wrong here I really like the image, Im just curious about how you created it if you don't mind sharing.
Thanks
Rob
both of his shots were @ 1.4 and anything that is in front of behind the subjets is going to be OOF regardless of SS. both shots had people in the foreground significantly far away from the subject for a 58mm lens @ 1.4 thus why they are OOF/Blurry
and for the 2nd image it looks like he shot through something.. either a prism or some glassware in between him and the subjects.
nextelbuddy wrote:
both of his shots were @ 1.4 and anything that is in front of behind the subjets is going to be OOF regardless of SS. both shots had people in the foreground significantly far away from the subject for a 58mm lens @ 1.4 thus why they are OOF/Blurry
and for the 2nd image it looks like he shot through something.. either a prism or some glassware in between him and the subjects.
Thanks for the answer
I can see now how the effect of the prism (or something) and the depth of field is giving the impression of motion blur. Should have been able to work that out!?
Nice effect though
Snapped a few with my 58 the other day. This lens is just pure magic for me. I know it's super debated but the images it produces just feel special to me.
Rob UK wrote:
Hey Chris,
Nice images, if its ok I'd like to ask you bout the second image? I had thought that maybe the chap in the foreground might not be sharp due to motion blur because of a slow shutter speed, although I see that the exif says it was 1/640 which would suggest to me that I would have expected him to be sharp?
Don't get me wrong here I really like the image, Im just curious about how you created it if you don't mind sharing.
Thanks
Rob
Yeah the second shot there I was shooting through some glasses that were stacked in front of the counter. The bartender was about 2 feet in front of me versus the couple that were about 8-10 feet away maybe.
Is the only point of using a 58mm lens if you can't get back far enough with your 85,135,200? Aren't the longer focal lengths going to give you more bokeh? I'm just trying to justify if I should look into getting this lens. If you can't get back far enough I would shoot with this at 1.4, but wouldn't a 105 DC or an 85 1.4g give better bokeh even shot at F2 or F2.8? J/w if there is any real reason to get this lens other than not having room for a longer focal length.
agelessphotog wrote:
Is the only point of using a 58mm lens if you can't get back far enough with your 85,135,200? Aren't the longer focal lengths going to give you more bokeh? I'm just trying to justify if I should look into getting this lens. If you can't get back far enough I would shoot with this at 1.4, but wouldn't a 105 DC or an 85 1.4g give better bokeh even shot at F2 or F2.8? J/w if there is any real reason to get this lens other than not having room for a longer focal length.
there are other things that come into play. the characteristics of the lens and glass elements have an impact on skin tones, color rendering in other colors, I get different dynamic range sometimes with he same exact settings then compared to say my 85, 35 or 50 1.4 lenses. hard to explain but when im processing the images in RAW i can just get more detail sometimes. also the rendering of the OOF areas and the transitions to those areas are different for this lens to.
its very versatile too. you can choose portraits, you cna shoot side, you can shoot details if you have the space, you can pano stitch with it. its just got a compromise to it that I personally dont get with other lenses like the 85 or 70-200 lenses.
you have to shoot with it, fail with it, have a love hate relationship with it to really appreciate it. its something you wont get by borrowing the lens or even renting it sorry to say. you build a relationship with the lens so to speak and even though you may have an arsenal of lenses in your bag to choose from, you will know exactly when and where you plan on using this lens once yo have that trust and relationship with it. I will never sell this lens.
Yesterday I at last was able to put my recently acquired copy to the test for the kind of photography (fashion, portrait) I have for it in mind, at a very small low profile amateur J Pop Lolita fashion catwalk.
No professional 'top' models, but rather really sweet and most coorperative 'normal' girls, who allowed me to do some impromptu on location shooting on a nearby lawn. And a great opportunity to play around with the 58mm/put it to the test, and yes, I'm convinced.
Didn't need any AF fine tuning on my DF (and D800), works fine for me as it is even if it may not be sharp at 100% pixelpeeping and despite all the MTF charts at wide open at 1.4. And yes, the bokeh is as wonderful as I had hoped it would be.
Processed (most likely not up to the 'standards' of the 'experts', but the way I like it anyway) in NX-D and NX2 (due to some software glitch I wasn't able to open my D800/DF files in NX2 after I installed NX-D), and converted into B/W on my tablet with the 'Silver' option of the Photoshop Express app
