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jctriguy wrote:
I'm arguing that they likely have a long term plan in place and are working on numerous different areas at one time. That plan is likely based on what aspects they feel are most important to the vast majority of potential customers. It is obvious that the Olympics and high profile sport shooters are still a huge focus, regardless of how much or little that R&D cost gets paid back by those shooters. A camera is more than a sensor and a company is more that one niche product. If 95% of people are happy with a 5D3 sensor, is
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So then you agree with my point that they should be working on innovations now and not waiting until they start to lose market share?

I'm just trying to figure out what point you are trying to refute.That the competition has been more innovative than Canon in recent years? That being indifferent to what your competition is doing is a bad strategy?



Nov 15, 2013 at 05:27 PM
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p.52 #2 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


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"A long while" is not equivalent to "stopping development". None of us are privy to that development cycle and we don't have any idea what issues they are dealing with in rolling out new sensor technology. A far bigger mistake for them to do is release a new sensor not ready for primetime. Their market share gives them the luxury of time to make sure they get it right.

I've seen far too many rushed software releases in the form of a stealthy beta.

I agree completely with all of that, and in fact I think I said as much in previous posts.

So here again, I'll ask what point I made that you are wanting to refute?



Nov 15, 2013 at 05:36 PM
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p.52 #3 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


jctriguy wrote:
Funny that some are so eager to label people and make accusations. I guess when the arguments can't cut it, resort to labelling and creating division that way.


I'm lost here. What exactly is this arguement you are talking about? We are discussing the A7R with Canon lens right. If not...then maybe the argument needs to go elsewhere, this topic is about using the new Sony with Canon lens...which many on this forum has a lot of interest...including Fred himself.



Nov 15, 2013 at 05:41 PM
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p.52 #4 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


You're right Chez, I'll move to the haters thread.

Mttran can now get back to posting every Flickr link to massively down sampled jpgs of people and store test shots



Nov 15, 2013 at 05:49 PM
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p.52 #5 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


adamdewilde wrote:
Quick questions, if you have the chance to answer:

I'm going to be in Tokyo next week, will they have available A7 and A7r stock? Can I change the menu to English (or are the Japanese versions locked)? They're available in Singapore now, but I'd have to pay my dealer a good $300 more then what you've just paid, so....

Also 55 1.4 available yet?
Where to get M-adapters in Japan?

Thanks!


In Tokyo, many stores have a lot of stock for both A7 and A7r, but they are all Japanese versions. As far as I know, Sony is the only company that locks the menu language with their Japanese versions, super old-fashioned, at least 15 years behind Canon and Nikon in that sense. The export model is not available yet here. I assume they will be available on the EU/US release date. Most cameras and lenses are generally cheaper in Japan (check: kakaku.com) except for Sony's export models which are priced similarly to B&H.

55/1.4 is not available yet. I got my Metabones adapter online from their site.



Nov 15, 2013 at 08:06 PM
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p.52 #6 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


Some news on dpreview :

Studio Comparison
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-alpha-7-7r/6

Shooting with the Sony Alpha 7 and Alpha 7R
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-alpha-7-7r/5

from test scene, in raw, seems obvious it is same sensor as D800. For pure resolution, 5DIII as lot less details, which is logic.



Nov 16, 2013 at 04:06 AM
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tororo wrote:
In Tokyo, many stores have a lot of stock for both A7 and A7r, but they are all Japanese versions. As far as I know, Sony is the only company that locks the menu language with their Japanese versions, super old-fashioned, at least 15 years behind Canon and Nikon in that sense. The export model is not available yet here. I assume they will be available on the EU/US release date. Most cameras and lenses are generally cheaper in Japan (check: kakaku.com) except for Sony's export models which are priced similarly to B&H.

55/1.4 is not available yet. I got
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Thanks for the reply.. Sucks about the language settings



Nov 16, 2013 at 06:11 AM
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p.52 #8 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


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You're right Chez, I'll move to the haters thread.


+1, this thread is about new imaging vision from A7(r) that now available to EOS system, why bother with all non-sense discussion

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2884/10785547426_85b7330394_h.jpg



Nov 16, 2013 at 03:03 PM
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This thread is about new imaging vision from A7(r) with Canon lenses. And most pics posted here is not shot with Canon lenses. I don't mind seeing pics from the new Sony camera. But why post them here if it's not even a Canon lens?


Nov 16, 2013 at 03:11 PM
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p.52 #10 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


You get what you pay for.


Nov 16, 2013 at 03:34 PM
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p.52 #11 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


Sven Jeppesen wrote:
This thread is about new imaging vision from A7(r) with Canon lenses. And most pics posted here is not shot with Canon lenses. I don't mind seeing pics from the new Sony camera. But why post them here if it's not even a Canon lens?


It's about their sensors performance....without test available images, how do we know they are worth to be adapted into our EOS system or not.



Nov 16, 2013 at 03:35 PM
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p.52 #12 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


I'm waiting for the TS-E 24/3.5L II and ZE 50/2 images...


Nov 16, 2013 at 03:41 PM
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jcolwell wrote:
I'm waiting for the TS-E 24/3.5L II and ZE 50/2 images...


+1

I'm also waiting for the TS-E 17, TS-E 24II and ZE 21

And while we are waiting we have to see hundreds of others photographers pics being posted without permission



Nov 16, 2013 at 03:51 PM
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Lars Johnsson wrote:
+1

I'm also waiting for the TS-E 17, TS-E 24II and ZE 21

And while we are waiting we have to see hundreds of others photographers pics being posted without permission


+1, ZE21 for me as well



Nov 16, 2013 at 03:52 PM
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p.52 #15 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


Well, I'm also waiting for the TS-E 17/4L, ZE 18, CZ 28/2.8, CZ 35-70/3.4, and CZ 100/3.5, but hey, why start a long list?


Nov 16, 2013 at 03:55 PM
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p.52 #16 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


Sven Jeppesen wrote:
This thread is about new imaging vision from A7(r) with Canon lenses. And most pics posted here is not shot with Canon lenses. I don't mind seeing pics from the new Sony camera. But why post them here if it's not even a Canon lens?


Because many of us have both Canon and non-Canon lenses and are interested in the A7r using these lenses. Does it somehow hurt this thread posting an image taken with the A7r using a Zeiss lens?



Nov 16, 2013 at 04:10 PM
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p.52 #17 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


jcolwell wrote:
I'm waiting for the TS-E 24/3.5L II and ZE 50/2 images...


Jim, you'll have to go the the alt forum to see any images taken with the Zeiss. They are prohibited from entering this Canon only forum.



Nov 16, 2013 at 04:12 PM
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p.52 #18 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


chez wrote:
Jim, you'll have to go the the alt forum to see any images taken with the Zeiss. They are prohibited from entering this Canon only forum.


If you have read the rules you would have known that Zeiss ZE lenses belong in this forum



Nov 16, 2013 at 04:16 PM
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p.52 #19 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


jcolwell wrote:
I'm waiting for the TS-E 24/3.5L II and ZE 50/2 images...

chez wrote:
Jim, you'll have to go the the alt forum to see any images taken with the Zeiss. They are prohibited from entering this Canon only forum.

Lars Johnsson wrote:
If you have read the rules you would have known that Zeiss ZE lenses belong in this forum






OTOH, CZ, Oly, and M645 lenses are probably verboten.

In the words of Jack Nicholson (1996), "Why can't we all just get along?".



Nov 16, 2013 at 04:30 PM
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p.52 #20 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses


I have decided to buy the A7R and the EF lens adapter. It will be my main 35mm FF camera for architecture and landscape. I will keep the 5D3 for everything else including it's use as my main camera during film and commercial production photography (inside a sound blimp). I will use it mostly with the 14mm L II, the 24TSE II and the 35L or 50L.

The extra dynamic range will save me HUGE time in post since I would be able to do mostly single image captures and lighten up the shadows in post. I rented a D800E and tested this and the difference is huge. There is also the resolution advantage which is significant but I only need that mostly for Landscapes.



Nov 16, 2013 at 04:57 PM
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