Thanks a lot for your experience. I will try making a profile but confess I have never had to do that before, so it's all new! I will also try out ACR. Here's also the Hasselblad freeware program.
Somebody on the Pentax Forums has tweaked his 645Z files, using exiftools to masquerade as an IQ250. I wonder if doing that (H4D-40 perhaps?) to the 645D files might give similar improved results?
See Capture One 8.3 thread in the MF section of Pentax Forums.
lenticular11 wrote:
Thanks a lot for your experience. I will try making a profile but confess I have never had to do that before, so it's all new! I will also try out ACR. Here's also the Hasselblad freeware program.
Somebody on the Pentax Forums has tweaked his 645Z files, using exiftools to masquerade as an IQ250. I wonder if doing that (H4D-40 perhaps?) to the 645D files might give similar improved results?
See Capture One 8.3 thread in the MF section of Pentax Forums.
Seems to much of a "hassel" if you know what I mean? I would just do the acr route.
Michael - I see what you mean about the S2/lens colour - it's saturated but natural looking.
I have been quite underwhelmed with the colour I'm getting from my 645D with a range of P645 and a couple of P67 lenses, however this is also influenced of course by RAW processor chosen and in my case, lack of a dedicated camera profile (just yet). I don't usually employ LR as my RAW processor yet it's clear that C1 Pro does little to assist Leica and Pentax in processing MFD images! I don;t know about Leica MFDs but they only provide a very basic profile for the P645D.
When I have saved a small jpeg along with the RAW DNG I can see what it's really capable of with default camera processing.
I am about to delve into the world of creating camera profiles using a ColorChecker card etc. The more I use my 645D the more I appreciate what it's giving me, including from the P67 55 f4 lens that cost me about $150!!
This one was taken with the P67 55/f4 lens at f11. (LR processing of the DNG).
David, those color look great. I think we are sharing the same sensor, do we? My past experience of color checker is not positive. For the camera with color problem, the problem persist. and people do have their own preference and not all people have the same sensitivity regarding color. So, whenever discuss color of camera, there is never a happy ending
general speaking, I prefer camera have color match my vision to start with.(simple WB will get me close to final) I am less sensitive to landscape color as those are highly depend on lighting and hard to judge right or wrong. (not to say there is no difference, I am just more tolerant to those.) What Leica S2 indeed bring me some surprise is skin tone out of camera, it is very easy to deal with most of time, a few WB adjust, contrast is already giving me real looking. occasionally, just a few adjust for orange, yellow, red hue/lum slider to taste.
I have used too many different cameras at different price point, different brand. To say all cameras will have the same color with good profile is very laughable to me, at least to me.
I'm not contributing to the normal alt banter so I might as well post some pictures.
P645Z C1 using capturefix 90mm
I'm on the other side of the fence. I don't really find the colors all that bad, they aren't accurate at all but I find them aesthetic. I really dig the new three color tint in capture one, to me it makes it much more fun to find my own look.
Guys with how far 35mm system has gone and with Otus lenses I don't see much people using medium format cameras anymore. Even luminous landscape medium format forum thread is dead lol. It had life for about a week when the phase one xf body was announced lol. you guys gotta keep this thread going since I technically traded my pentax 645d for a 55mm otus hahaha.
Alexluu627 wrote:
Guys with how far 35mm system has gone and with Otus lenses I don't see much people using medium format cameras anymore. Even luminous landscape medium format forum thread is dead lol. It had life for about a week when the phase one xf body was announced lol. you guys gotta keep this thread going since I technically traded my pentax 645d for a 55mm otus hahaha.
I would argue Medium Format is far from dead. Maybe on Lula but other forums are very active with MF shooters.
Pentax made significant improvements from the "D" to the "Z" while making it extremely affordable compared to $30K+ MF systems. The "z" is not perfect but it's very close and get's a lot of things right especially for my favorite type of work which is landscape. I'm enjoying it for portrait work too but would like a better flash triggering setup. Maybe it's available and I haven't found it yet? Also, the files are truly amazing and the latitude you have in post simply blows me away. I love being able to push the shadows without discernible degradation to the file.
Last month, I strongly weighed purchasing two Otus lenses coupled with my 135 APO and a 5DsR. However, after the initial cost involved for those purchases it pushed me to MF for the same money with no regrets at all. I kept my 5DIII and 17TS/E for those times I need to go really wide and the 24-70 and 70-200 to chase the kiddos / youth sports, etc. One thing's for certain it's hard to beat Canon's TS/E's. That's definitely one area Pentax is lacking for sure. I would love to have their 28-45 DFA (one day) but the 35 FA / A I have is ridiculously sharp across the frame as is my 55mm and 150mm with both costing a third of my 135 APO.
Jim Servies wrote:
I would argue Medium Format is far from dead. Maybe on Lula but other forums are very active with MF shooters.
Pentax made significant improvements from the "D" to the "Z" while making it extremely affordable compared to $30K+ MF systems. The "z" is not perfect but it's very close and get's a lot of things right especially for my favorite type of work which is landscape. I'm enjoying it for portrait work too but would like a better flash triggering setup. Maybe it's available and I haven't found it yet? Also, the files are truly amazing and the latitude you have in post simply blows me away. I love being able to push the shadows without discernible degradation to the file.
Last month, I strongly weighed purchasing two Otus lenses coupled with my 135 APO and a 5DsR. However, after the initial cost involved for those purchases it pushed me to MF for the same money with no regrets at all. I kept my 5DIII and 17TS/E for those times I need to go really wide and the 24-70 and 70-200 to chase the kiddos / youth sports, etc. One thing's for certain it's hard to beat Canon's TS/E's. That's definitely one area Pentax is lacking for sure. I would love to have their 28-45 DFA (one day) but the 35 FA / A I have is ridiculously sharp across the frame as is my 55mm and 150mm with both costing a third of my 135 APO.
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Haha I will be back soon actually! I am gonna pick up a used h4d soon!
