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p.1 #1SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/nex-ff-biggest-surprise-sony-decides-to-go-for-an-olympus-omd-alike-design/
There is one big surprise concerning the design of the NEX-FF cameras. Sony had three different prototype designs and instead of going on the classic NEX-7 design they decided to go for the….Olympus OMD alike design! It means the camera has a Full Frame E-mount, has many of the NEX-7 controls and NEX-7 grip…but the viewfinder is in the middle!!! And no, it doesn’t have the design from the A3000! It’s really something new, has just a tiny bit bigger size than the RX1. Both models (cheap and more expensive camera) do have the same design. And as I told you...Show more →
I don't know what to think, I was really, really, really looking forward to a NEX-7 styled FF.
Edited on Oct 04, 2013 at 12:28 AM · View previous versions
There is one big surprise concerning the design of the NEX-FF cameras. Sony had three different prototype designs and instead of going on the classic NEX-7 design they decided to go for the….Olympus OMD alike design! It means the camera has a Full Frame E-mount, has many of the NEX-7 controls and NEX-7 grip…but the viewfinder is in the middle!!! And no, it doesn’t have the design from the A3000! It’s really something new, has just a tiny bit bigger size than the RX1. Both models (cheap and more expensive camera) do have the same design. And as I told you...Show more →
I don't know what to think, I was really, really, really looking forward to a NEX-7 styled FF.
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Oct 03, 2013 at 01:08 AM
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p.1 #2SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
I will try to get one to test some modern Leica lenses. But this choice of placement is a show stopper for me. Will not buy it for sure, just no way. Well, there is a good part of it: Sony is saving my money 
Oct 03, 2013 at 01:48 AM
p.1 #3SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
LightShow wrote:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/nex-ff-biggest-surprise-sony-decides-to-go-for-an-olympus-omd-alike-design/
I don't know what to think, I was really, really, really looking forward to a NEX-7 styled FF.
I think it will look more like a RX1 with a grip and EVF hump.
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/nex-ff-biggest-surprise-sony-decides-to-go-for-an-olympus-omd-alike-design/
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There is one big surprise concerning the design of the NEX-FF cameras. Sony had three different prototype designs and instead of going on the classic NEX-7 design they decided to go for the….Olympus OMD alike design! It means the camera has a Full Frame E-mount, has many of the NEX-7 controls and NEX-7 grip…but the viewfinder is in the middle!!! And no, it doesn’t have the design from the A3000! It’s really something new, has just a tiny bit bigger size than the RX1. Both models (cheap and more expensive camera) do have the same design. And as I told you yesterday, the cheap model has a 24MP sensors and the more expensive model has a 36MP sensor. I think it will look more like a RX1 with a grip and EVF hump.
Oct 03, 2013 at 02:55 AM
p.1 #4SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
Nooooooo the best thing about the NEX body design was the offset viewfinder, with an EVF you are no longer constrained by optics so you're free to place it where it makes most sense - at the edge so you don't have to smash your huge nose into the back of your $3000 camera.
Very disappointed they've gone with the central position and hump for the sake of "retro" styling at the expense of functionality.
Very disappointed they've gone with the central position and hump for the sake of "retro" styling at the expense of functionality.
Oct 03, 2013 at 03:19 AM
p.1 #5SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
Extreme disappointment. The advantage of the NEX form factor is that when I'm shooting someone, the camera doesn't cover my entire face. It's less intimidating to people when they're not looking at a face covered up by a big camera. I'll still wait and see, but at the moment, my thinking is I'll hold onto my Nikon DSLR instead.
Oct 03, 2013 at 03:39 AM
p.1 #6SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
sflxn wrote:
Extreme disappointment. The advantage of the NEX form factor is that when I'm shooting someone, the camera doesn't cover my entire face. It's less intimidating to people when they're not looking at a face covered up by a big camera. I'll still wait and see, but at the moment, my thinking is I'll hold onto my Nikon DSLR instead.
So your Nikon DSLR covers less of your face than a NEX with the viewfinder in the middle would?
Extreme disappointment. The advantage of the NEX form factor is that when I'm shooting someone, the camera doesn't cover my entire face. It's less intimidating to people when they're not looking at a face covered up by a big camera. I'll still wait and see, but at the moment, my thinking is I'll hold onto my Nikon DSLR instead.
So your Nikon DSLR covers less of your face than a NEX with the viewfinder in the middle would?
Oct 03, 2013 at 03:56 AM
p.1 #7SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
And that's why all cameras be exactly size of Nikon DSLR! 
Oct 03, 2013 at 04:06 AM
p.1 #8SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
Makten wrote:
So your Nikon DSLR covers less of your face than a NEX with the viewfinder in the middle would?
If they want to introduce a pseduo-dslr that's not proven, why not keep a real, state of the art DSLR that is proven beyond doubt? My D800E has a GPS, weatherproofing, can survive falls and fire, long lasting battery, huge selection of lenses. A big part of why people buy these mirrorless is the styling and form factor. Why buy a DSLR wannabe when you can own a real DSLR.
sflxn wrote
Extreme disappointment. The advantage of the NEX form factor is that when I'm shooting someone, the camera doesn't cover my entire face. It's less intimidating to people when they're not looking at a face covered up by a big camera. I'll still wait and see, but at the moment, my thinking is I'll hold onto my Nikon DSLR instead.If they want to introduce a pseduo-dslr that's not proven, why not keep a real, state of the art DSLR that is proven beyond doubt? My D800E has a GPS, weatherproofing, can survive falls and fire, long lasting battery, huge selection of lenses. A big part of why people buy these mirrorless is the styling and form factor. Why buy a DSLR wannabe when you can own a real DSLR.
Oct 03, 2013 at 04:25 AM
p.1 #9SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
I guess all slrs are omd designed? 
Oct 03, 2013 at 05:00 AM
p.1 #10SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
This forum starts to look as Dpreview ( and not in a good way )
Oct 03, 2013 at 05:09 AM
p.1 #11SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
It's because we are cynical, bitter and people don't invite us home for tea and biscuits...
Oct 03, 2013 at 05:11 AM
p.1 #12SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
Obviously Sony needs more space in the camera to make it FF than is possible with the current format. In the end the only difference with a DSLR will be the space (not) needed for a mirror and a little bit of weight. Is that worth all the excitement?
Oct 03, 2013 at 05:19 AM
p.1 #13SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
Probably not, but we need to deal with cognitive dissonance caused by the announcement.
Oct 03, 2013 at 05:32 AM
p.1 #14SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
I see nothing wrong with the design of, say, a Minolta x700. Tried and true design that everyone is familiar with.
Oct 03, 2013 at 05:57 AM
p.1 #15SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
To be honest I'd just stick with a DSLR in that case. If the lenses won't be smaller and the body will not be significantly smaller or at least not Nex 7 stick in a pocket without lens small, why bother?
Oct 03, 2013 at 07:08 AM
p.1 #16SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
If you want tiny FF, they still have the RX1, right?
I hadn't thought about how a center mount EVF would have the camera covering up more of your face while shooting. Interesting. Definitely feel like using just the rear display is less intimidating for my victims/subjects, so I can see where there could be a happy medium.
Not sure what other factors are involved, but I have found a center mount EVF (e.g. E-M5) to be easier to see in bright sunlight than a side mount EVF like on my X100 or NEX-7. Any kind of side light can make it really tough for the side mount viewfinders that I have used.
I hadn't thought about how a center mount EVF would have the camera covering up more of your face while shooting. Interesting. Definitely feel like using just the rear display is less intimidating for my victims/subjects, so I can see where there could be a happy medium.
Not sure what other factors are involved, but I have found a center mount EVF (e.g. E-M5) to be easier to see in bright sunlight than a side mount EVF like on my X100 or NEX-7. Any kind of side light can make it really tough for the side mount viewfinders that I have used.
Oct 03, 2013 at 07:22 AM
p.1 #17SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
Beni wrote:
To be honest I'd just stick with a DSLR in that case. If the lenses won't be smaller and the body will not be significantly smaller or at least not Nex 7 stick in a pocket without lens small, why bother?
I wonder if people who are disappointed in this rumor have actually seen an OM-D in person. It's a very small camera, and nowhere near the size of a FF DSLR.
http://camerasize.com/compare/#289,33
We've heard all along that the FF NEX will be a little bigger than the NEX-7. Well, the OM-D is a little bigger than the NEX-7.
To be honest I'd just stick with a DSLR in that case. If the lenses won't be smaller and the body will not be significantly smaller or at least not Nex 7 stick in a pocket without lens small, why bother?
I wonder if people who are disappointed in this rumor have actually seen an OM-D in person. It's a very small camera, and nowhere near the size of a FF DSLR.
http://camerasize.com/compare/#289,33
We've heard all along that the FF NEX will be a little bigger than the NEX-7. Well, the OM-D is a little bigger than the NEX-7.
Oct 03, 2013 at 07:28 AM
p.1 #18SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
I dont see many OMD users complaining about the VF placement
(for the record, I was complaining when the OMD was announced. Photographers do have noses after all, and unless there is a very good reason, ie a mirror, the VF should be on the side to accommodate noses. But ppl didnt seem to care)
(for the record, I was complaining when the OMD was announced. Photographers do have noses after all, and unless there is a very good reason, ie a mirror, the VF should be on the side to accommodate noses. But ppl didnt seem to care)
Oct 03, 2013 at 07:31 AM
p.1 #19SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
or compared with the RX1r?
http://camerasize.com/compare/#289,375
http://camerasize.com/compare/#289,375
Oct 03, 2013 at 07:33 AM
p.1 #20SAR SR5 both NEX FF to have OMD styling & weather-sealed!!
I have seen the OM-D in person. It's not Nex 7 sized. At a certain point you work out how small will it have to be that I am willing to sacrifice the ergonomics of having FF lenses mounted on a small camera and lose a large level of functionality. I don't think the OM-D was it wheres the Nex 7 would have been. Personal thing.
The RX-1 is not interchangable lenses. It doesn't come into the question of comparison.
The RX-1 is not interchangable lenses. It doesn't come into the question of comparison.
Oct 03, 2013 at 07:44 AM