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Archive 2013Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
p.82 #1Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
philber wrote:
I have a question. The nEX name is gone, in favor of all "Alpha" cameras. If that is the case, since the new cameras are called A7, what can a NEX 7, but not called NEX, be named? Is that not a sign that the NEX 7 will remain without successor?
I was watching a video and a Sony Representative said that they have now replaced the NEX name with Alpha.
I have a question. The nEX name is gone, in favor of all "Alpha" cameras. If that is the case, since the new cameras are called A7, what can a NEX 7, but not called NEX, be named? Is that not a sign that the NEX 7 will remain without successor?
I was watching a video and a Sony Representative said that they have now replaced the NEX name with Alpha.
Oct 16, 2013 at 08:05 AM
p.82 #2Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I hope not as I still would like to switch up from a 5N to a Nex 7 successor with corners fixed (5N becomes the backup). Having said that I'm getting a A7r in any case 
Oct 16, 2013 at 08:05 AM
p.82 #3Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
EOS20 wrote:
I was watching a video and a Sony Representative said that they have now replaced the NEX name with Alpha.
Really? I thought Alpha was just going to be used for E-Mount FF and NEX remain for APS E-Mount. hmm Sony really knows how to confuse things. As pointed out to me previously though, the NEX-7 is already an Alpha - Alpha NEX-7.
Edit. corrected.
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philber wrote
I have a question. The nEX name is gone, in favor of all "Alpha" cameras. If that is the case, since the new cameras are called A7, what can a NEX 7, but not called NEX, be named? Is that not a sign that the NEX 7 will remain without successor?Really? I thought Alpha was just going to be used for E-Mount FF and NEX remain for APS E-Mount. hmm Sony really knows how to confuse things. As pointed out to me previously though, the NEX-7 is already an Alpha - Alpha NEX-7.
Edit. corrected.
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Oct 16, 2013 at 08:07 AM
p.82 #4Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Still no details about specific wide angle M lenses but it looks promising, very promising in deed......
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_a7r_hands_on.shtml
A little quote:
For some photographers (myself included) putting Leica M mount lenses on the Sony A7R may be reason enough to break out a bottle of Veuve Cliquot champagne and celebrate. Using an M to E adapter (I have a Metabones), virtually every Leica M lenses that I own works well on the A7R. Some of the ultra-wide and very wides do vignette, so be aware of this. There is no software correction for this, because we're mixing and matching. With other systems where the lens and camera are from the same company there's a lot of magic that can be done in firmware.
Edited on Oct 16, 2013 at 08:12 AM · View previous versions
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_a7r_hands_on.shtml
A little quote:
For some photographers (myself included) putting Leica M mount lenses on the Sony A7R may be reason enough to break out a bottle of Veuve Cliquot champagne and celebrate. Using an M to E adapter (I have a Metabones), virtually every Leica M lenses that I own works well on the A7R. Some of the ultra-wide and very wides do vignette, so be aware of this. There is no software correction for this, because we're mixing and matching. With other systems where the lens and camera are from the same company there's a lot of magic that can be done in firmware.
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Oct 16, 2013 at 08:10 AM
p.82 #5Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
http://www.metabones.com/sony/buy-eos-nex-adapter
There's no need for Sony to make adapters that are already available on the market and have been for a long time.There was a rumor that Sony would offer a free adapter for Canon or Nikon as an A7 promotion (possibly a first party, special adapter). That's probably what he is referring to.
Indeed that's what I was referring to. Sony LA-EA adapters still have the best quality out of all the adapters I have handled. And they're priced reasonably as well. Oh well...
Jman13 wrote
?? There are already adapters for pretty much every mount in existence to E-Mount, including the Metabones EF to E that retains autofocus and autoaperture and IS.http://www.metabones.com/sony/buy-eos-nex-adapter
There's no need for Sony to make adapters that are already available on the market and have been for a long time.
Indeed that's what I was referring to. Sony LA-EA adapters still have the best quality out of all the adapters I have handled. And they're priced reasonably as well. Oh well...
Oct 16, 2013 at 08:10 AM
p.82 #6Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
It's sony alpha nex and sony alpha ilce.
Oct 16, 2013 at 08:11 AM
p.82 #7Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
philber wrote:
I have a question. The nEX name is gone, in favor of all "Alpha" cameras. If that is the case, since the new cameras are called A7, what can a NEX 7, but not called NEX, be named? Is that not a sign that the NEX 7 will remain without successor?
I think there won't be any "serious" NEX camera anymore, doesn't make much sense, does it?
It would be funny if suddenly we discovered some more "serious" NEX lenses, like the ZA24
worked well on FF...
How would they advertise the new NEX-7? It could be dropped altogether...
I have a question. The nEX name is gone, in favor of all "Alpha" cameras. If that is the case, since the new cameras are called A7, what can a NEX 7, but not called NEX, be named? Is that not a sign that the NEX 7 will remain without successor?
I think there won't be any "serious" NEX camera anymore, doesn't make much sense, does it?
It would be funny if suddenly we discovered some more "serious" NEX lenses, like the ZA24
worked well on FF...
How would they advertise the new NEX-7? It could be dropped altogether...
Oct 16, 2013 at 08:11 AM
p.82 #8Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I just cancelled my pre-order since the "A7 killer" is coming:
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/the-rumor-counterattack-from-fuji-full-frame-x200-coming-in-2014/
these rumor sites are fracking ridiculous sometimes with the hyperbole
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/the-rumor-counterattack-from-fuji-full-frame-x200-coming-in-2014/
these rumor sites are fracking ridiculous sometimes with the hyperbole
Oct 16, 2013 at 08:54 AM
p.82 #9Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
theophilus wrote:
I just cancelled my pre-order since the "A7 killer" is coming:
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/the-rumor-counterattack-from-fuji-full-frame-x200-coming-in-2014/
these rumor sites are fracking ridiculous sometimes with the hyperbole
Well, the rumor says it is likely a fixed lens camera. So that's sort of in a different classification than the A7 series.
Still interesting though.
I just cancelled my pre-order since the "A7 killer" is coming:
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/the-rumor-counterattack-from-fuji-full-frame-x200-coming-in-2014/
these rumor sites are fracking ridiculous sometimes with the hyperbole
Well, the rumor says it is likely a fixed lens camera. So that's sort of in a different classification than the A7 series.
Still interesting though.
Oct 16, 2013 at 08:57 AM
p.82 #10Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
phigment wrote:
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/the-rumor-counterattack-from-fuji-full-frame-x200-coming-in-2014/
these rumor sites are fracking ridiculous sometimes with the hyperboleWell, the rumor says it is likely a fixed lens camera. So that's sort of in a different classification than the A7 series.
Still interesting though.
It should certainly be fixed lens, like the X100. The rumor says as much. This is more an RX1 competitor than an A7 competitor - If it pans out.
theophilus wrote
I just cancelled my pre-order since the "A7 killer" is coming:http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/the-rumor-counterattack-from-fuji-full-frame-x200-coming-in-2014/
these rumor sites are fracking ridiculous sometimes with the hyperbole
Still interesting though.
It should certainly be fixed lens, like the X100. The rumor says as much. This is more an RX1 competitor than an A7 competitor - If it pans out.
Oct 16, 2013 at 09:14 AM
p.82 #11Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
It will be interesting to see the plethora of big rumors from now on from CaNikon and Fuji since I'm sure they want to prevent as many Sony A7 sales - and defections- as possible.
Oct 16, 2013 at 09:17 AM
p.82 #12Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I have news that are about to break: Sony will introduce a X-200 killer! In 2016 no less. It comes straight from the www.AbsurdRumors.com. Specs are: a matchbox-sized MF camera. Mooted price: less than 1000$. Rated AR2!
Oct 16, 2013 at 09:25 AM
p.82 #13Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
just cancelled my preorder. Going to wait for some real life data points and samples with M wides before I get one. Meanwhile my D800e continues to amaze me each time I use it
Oct 16, 2013 at 09:26 AM
p.82 #14Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
philber wrote:
I have news that are about to break: Sony will introduce a X-200 killer! In 2016 no less. It comes straight from the www.AbsurdRumors.com. Specs are: a matchbox-sized MF camera. Mooted price: less than 1000$. Rated AR2!
Where can I pre-order NOW?!
I have news that are about to break: Sony will introduce a X-200 killer! In 2016 no less. It comes straight from the www.AbsurdRumors.com. Specs are: a matchbox-sized MF camera. Mooted price: less than 1000$. Rated AR2!
Where can I pre-order NOW?!
Oct 16, 2013 at 09:41 AM
p.82 #15Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Just send me the money, I will make sure no-one gets this camera before you. Honest!
Oct 16, 2013 at 09:45 AM
p.82 #16Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
HopeIsEternal wrote:
(...lots of stuff)
Man, you seem to be on a mission.
However, I'd suggest you just relax: If you don't like it, don't buy it. Buy a cellphone instead or a Nikon whatever.
I like cameras for what they have and what they can do, not for what they haven't got.
Bernie
(...lots of stuff)
Man, you seem to be on a mission.
However, I'd suggest you just relax: If you don't like it, don't buy it. Buy a cellphone instead or a Nikon whatever.
I like cameras for what they have and what they can do, not for what they haven't got.
Bernie
Oct 16, 2013 at 10:00 AM
p.82 #17Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
It will be interesting to see the plethora of big rumors from now on from CaNikon and Fuji since I'm sure they want to prevent as many Sony A7 sales - and defections- as possible.
CaNikon and Fuji are not comparable really: Canon and Nikon have a huge palette of DSLRs and lenses to defend, and I do not see them to come out easily with a completely new mirrorless system anytime soon. Apart from N1 and M series. They will try to hang onto DSLR format as long as possible, because this is what they have built their market share on since 1990 or longer.
Fuji is still a niche player, they have an enthusiastic followership in the mirrorless segment, and they somehow tried to get close to FF quality with their crop sensors. The X-E1 has been growing on me, specially with better RAW converters coming out all the time.
Sony could not compete (even get close to) CaNikon in the DSLR world, so they try to build upon their relative success with the Nex by first unifying E and A mount (and then fading out alpha). Quality of the new A7 models from what the samples show is very good, even with the kit lens.
I shot X-E1 since january 2013 as my main camera more or less, but before I make any further major lens investment in the Fuji world (23/1,4 or 56/1,2) I will look very closely at the Sony offerings. Maybe even a minimal setup like A7 + 55/1,8 could be very nice.
Bernie
It will be interesting to see the plethora of big rumors from now on from CaNikon and Fuji since I'm sure they want to prevent as many Sony A7 sales - and defections- as possible.
CaNikon and Fuji are not comparable really: Canon and Nikon have a huge palette of DSLRs and lenses to defend, and I do not see them to come out easily with a completely new mirrorless system anytime soon. Apart from N1 and M series. They will try to hang onto DSLR format as long as possible, because this is what they have built their market share on since 1990 or longer.
Fuji is still a niche player, they have an enthusiastic followership in the mirrorless segment, and they somehow tried to get close to FF quality with their crop sensors. The X-E1 has been growing on me, specially with better RAW converters coming out all the time.
Sony could not compete (even get close to) CaNikon in the DSLR world, so they try to build upon their relative success with the Nex by first unifying E and A mount (and then fading out alpha). Quality of the new A7 models from what the samples show is very good, even with the kit lens.
I shot X-E1 since january 2013 as my main camera more or less, but before I make any further major lens investment in the Fuji world (23/1,4 or 56/1,2) I will look very closely at the Sony offerings. Maybe even a minimal setup like A7 + 55/1,8 could be very nice.
Bernie
Oct 16, 2013 at 10:12 AM
p.82 #18Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
alba63 wrote:
CaNikon and Fuji are not comparable really: Canon and Nikon have a huge palette of DSLRs and lenses to defend, and I do not see them to come out easily with a completely new mirrorless system anytime soon. Apart from N1 and M series. They will try to hang onto DSLR format as long as possible, because this is what they have built their market share on since 1990 or longer.
Fuji is still a niche player, they have an enthusiastic followership in the mirrorless segment, and they somehow tried to get close to FF quality with their crop sensors....Show more →
All this is probably true with the caveat that if these Sony FF E-Mount cameras really start selling - and cannibalizing just a little of CaNikon's market, CaNikon will be forced to react, regardless if it means competing against their existing systems. I certainly don't see Pro's doing this in droves (probably a landscape shooter here and there) but well-heeled enthusiasts looking to lighten their load? Very possible.
Tariq Gibran wrote
It will be interesting to see the plethora of big rumors from now on from CaNikon and Fuji since I'm sure they want to prevent as many Sony A7 sales - and defections- as possible.Fuji is still a niche player, they have an enthusiastic followership in the mirrorless segment, and they somehow tried to get close to FF quality with their crop sensors....Show more →
All this is probably true with the caveat that if these Sony FF E-Mount cameras really start selling - and cannibalizing just a little of CaNikon's market, CaNikon will be forced to react, regardless if it means competing against their existing systems. I certainly don't see Pro's doing this in droves (probably a landscape shooter here and there) but well-heeled enthusiasts looking to lighten their load? Very possible.
Oct 16, 2013 at 10:21 AM
p.82 #19Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Very clearly Sony can "afford" to release A7r because they won't lose much on the Alpha 99 front. The equation is the opposite with Nikon and their D800. And even worse for Canon, who haven't released a high-pixel-count body yet. If the rumour is to be believed that they will release it only in One series form, then A7r is very bad news indeed for them.
Oct 16, 2013 at 10:34 AM
p.82 #20Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
I certainly don't see Pro's doing this in droves (probably a landscape shooter here and there) but well-heeled enthusiasts looking to lighten their load? Very possible.
My own reason to go mirrorless with Fuji was size and weight even if I lost a little bit of quality in the detail/ DOF department versus my (s)old 5d MkII. After 8 or 9 months of Fuji X shooting it would be pretty tough to go back to a DSLR.
For those who think the size difference Sony/ FF DSLR is not that big, just go to camerasize.com and put the d800 or D4 next to the A7. Quite a shock to even see....
I certainly don't see Pro's doing this in droves (probably a landscape shooter here and there) but well-heeled enthusiasts looking to lighten their load? Very possible.
My own reason to go mirrorless with Fuji was size and weight even if I lost a little bit of quality in the detail/ DOF department versus my (s)old 5d MkII. After 8 or 9 months of Fuji X shooting it would be pretty tough to go back to a DSLR.
For those who think the size difference Sony/ FF DSLR is not that big, just go to camerasize.com and put the d800 or D4 next to the A7. Quite a shock to even see....
Oct 16, 2013 at 10:39 AM