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p.73 #1Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
The anticipation is killing me on this.
At this point, i just want to know when i can order, and when it will ship.

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Oct 15, 2013 at 08:55 PM
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p.73 #2Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
douglasf13 wroteI don't understand the ergonomics of the front dial on the A7. I'm sitting here gripping my RX1, which has a similar grip, and I'm not quite sure how I'd comfortably reach that front dial. Middle finger??
The A7 grip sits low, just like the Fotodiox grip I have on my RX1. With that grip, my bottom three fingers support the camera leaving the index finger for the shutter button (and it would also be an easy reach using the index finger for that control dial).


I don't think it's an easy reach with my index finger. I'd probably have to use my middle finger.
Oct 15, 2013 at 08:56 PM
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p.73 #3Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Oct 15, 2013 at 08:58 PM
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p.73 #4Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
douglasf13 wrote:
Tariq Gibran wrote
douglasf13 wroteI don't understand the ergonomics of the front dial on the A7. I'm sitting here gripping my RX1, which has a similar grip, and I'm not quite sure how I'd comfortably reach that front dial. Middle finger??
The A7 grip sits low, just like the Fotodiox grip I have on my RX1. With that grip, my bottom three fingers support the camera leaving the index finger for the shutter button (and it would also be an easy reach using the index finger for that control dial).
I don't think it's an easy reach with my index finger. I'd probably have to use my middle finger.


You tried it with the Fotodiox grip also on the RX1? Thinking about it more, the A7 grip is wider which might cause an issue compared to the thinner Fotodiox grip.

Edit. BTW, my pinky does hang off the bottom so it's really the bottom middle two fingers which grip the fotodiox, which puts the index finger lower.


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Oct 15, 2013 at 09:00 PM
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p.73 #5Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
serhan_ wrote:
from dpreview, nov 13 magazine scan:
http://4.static.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums%2F52337273%2Fba80d73a5d9b495aa4ba659b6cc363fe


7r goes to 25,600 ISO, 7 goes to 51,200
2.5 fps on 7 and 1.5fps on 7r (5fps and 4fps without AF)/
7 has 117 phase pts and 25 contrast points, 7r only the 25 contrast pts

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Oct 15, 2013 at 09:02 PM
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p.73 #6Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
the control layout on the back of the camera makes me happy. i too am not so sure about that front dial, though to be honest i don't like front dials at all my fingers are always too long to reach them comfortably.

Oct 15, 2013 at 09:06 PM
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p.73 #7Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
serhan_ wrote:
from dpreview, nov 13 magazine scan:
http://4.static.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums%2F52337273%2Fba80d73a5d9b495aa4ba659b6cc363fe



Hmm, the rear of the camera looks a bit cheaper in that photo - which I guess is a real photo of the camera. In particular, I hope the door (SD card door I guess) built into the right lower side where one would grip the camera is nice and solid.

Edit: Could just also be that it's a pre-production camera they have photographed so the door is not perfect (it appears perfect in the CGI type product illustrations showing the rear).

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Oct 15, 2013 at 09:13 PM
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p.73 #8Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
douglasf13 wrote
Tariq Gibran wrote
douglasf13 wroteI don't understand the ergonomics of the front dial on the A7. I'm sitting here gripping my RX1, which has a similar grip, and I'm not quite sure how I'd comfortably reach that front dial. Middle finger??
The A7 grip sits low, just like the Fotodiox grip I have on my RX1. With that grip, my bottom three fingers support the camera leaving the index finger for the shutter button (and it would also be an easy reach using the index finger for that control dial).
I don't think it's an easy reach with my index finger. I'd probably have to use my middle finger.
You tried it with the Fotodiox grip also on the RX1? Thinking about it more, the A7 grip is wider which might cause an issue compared to the thinner Fotodiox grip.

Edit. BTW, my pinky does hang off the bottom so it's really the bottom middle two fingers which grip the fotodiox, which puts the index finger lower.


the grip looks very similar to the nex-7. i'd say the front dial should be in the same place as the on off switch the NEX-7 if you want to try out how easy it is to adjust.

Oct 15, 2013 at 09:16 PM
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p.73 #9Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Here are photos of the RX10 and the rear and other photos of the A7/A7r as reported by SAR:

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/last-minute-leak-first-rx10-and-new-a7-images/

Rich

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Oct 15, 2013 at 09:18 PM
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p.73 #10Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
sebboh wrote:
Tariq Gibran wrote
douglasf13 wrote
Tariq Gibran wrote
douglasf13 wroteI don't understand the ergonomics of the front dial on the A7. I'm sitting here gripping my RX1, which has a similar grip, and I'm not quite sure how I'd comfortably reach that front dial. Middle finger??
The A7 grip sits low, just like the Fotodiox grip I have on my RX1. With that grip, my bottom three fingers support the camera leaving the index finger for the shutter button (and it would also be an easy reach using the index finger for that control dial).
I don't think it's an easy reach with my index finger. I'd probably have to use my middle finger.
You tried it with the Fotodiox grip also on the RX1? Thinking about it more, the A7 grip is wider which might cause an issue compared to the thinner Fotodiox grip.

Edit. BTW, my pinky does hang off the bottom so it's really the bottom middle two fingers which grip the fotodiox, which puts the index finger lower.
the grip looks very similar to the nex-7. i'd say the front dial should be in the same place as the on off switch the NEX-7 if you want to try out how easy it is to adjust.



I no longer have an NEX-7, just the RX1. My hand is about medium sized and I doubt it would be an issue, particularly if the left hand is used to support the camera as well.
Oct 15, 2013 at 09:19 PM
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p.73 #11Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
LCD is the old NEX one, not the new RX1 one...
Oct 15, 2013 at 09:19 PM
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p.73 #12Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
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LCD is the old NEX one, not the new RX1 one...


Are you referring to the type of LCD used?
Oct 15, 2013 at 09:22 PM
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p.73 #13Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
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snowboarder wroteLCD is the old NEX one, not the new RX1 one...
Are you referring to the type of LCD used?



yeah, lower resolution and an ugly wide black edge unused...
Not that it's bad, but the RX1R LCD is really brilliant...
Oct 15, 2013 at 09:23 PM
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p.73 #14Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
It looks like the same aspect ratio as the RX1, though. The NEX cameras use that wider ratio that makes the overall image effectively smaller.
Oct 15, 2013 at 09:26 PM
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p.73 #15Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
snowboarder wrote:
Tariq Gibran wrote
snowboarder wroteLCD is the old NEX one, not the new RX1 one...
Are you referring to the type of LCD used?
yeah, lower resolution and an ugly wide black edge unused...
Not that it's bad, but the RX1R LCD is really brilliant...


The RX1 uses Sony's "White Magic" LCD technology for better viewing in bright light I believe also. I would hope it's used on these cameras as well.
Oct 15, 2013 at 09:27 PM
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p.73 #16Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Yeah I noticed that asymmetric border on the LCD. Is that a typical Sony thing?
Oct 15, 2013 at 09:30 PM
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p.73 #17Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
RX1 LCD - 1.2M dots, this one is 920K like the "old" NEX, probably there is no
tilting new model yet...
Oct 15, 2013 at 09:33 PM
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p.73 #18Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Wonder how long before we get a Voigtlander Nokton!
Oct 15, 2013 at 09:35 PM
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p.73 #19Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
The RX1 uses Sony's "White Magic" LCD technology for better viewing in bright light I believe also. I would hope it's used on these cameras as well.


you would hope so given even the RX100/mkII have the White Magic display, as does the Ricoh GR (I believe)

For a flagship 36meg FF offering to use something from a previous generation parts bin to save a few dollars wouldn't be well received I don't think
Oct 15, 2013 at 09:37 PM
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p.73 #20Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
as in, Cosina build a lens specifically for this camera?
Oct 15, 2013 at 09:38 PM
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