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p.62 #1Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Hopefully there will be a 3rd party manufacturer that will make a leather skin available for these cameras.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2826/10278609793_9467f427c1_o.jpg
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Oct 14, 2013 at 03:30 PM
p.62 #2Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
EOS20 wrote:
Hopefully there will be a 3rd party manufacturer that will make a leather skin available for these cameras.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2826/10278609793_9467f427c1_o.jpg
Good point, I covered the semi-ugly 5N asap and it started to look as a fashion piece with some brown leather half-case and string from another ebay firm. Something needs to be done about the hump though.
Hopefully there will be a 3rd party manufacturer that will make a leather skin available for these cameras.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2826/10278609793_9467f427c1_o.jpg
Good point, I covered the semi-ugly 5N asap and it started to look as a fashion piece with some brown leather half-case and string from another ebay firm. Something needs to be done about the hump though.
Oct 14, 2013 at 03:36 PM
p.62 #3Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
douglasf13 wrote:
Not that it would influence my purchase decision, if I were going to buy the A7, but, the more I look at the camera in these pics, the more that I have to admit to myself that it is kind of ugly. The lines of the camera are strange, with the top of the grip stopping between the top plate and body line. I honestly think the NEX-7/6, A900, A99, RX, etc. all look better. Either way, it should be an awesome camera.
Agree. That grip has looked odd to me from the start - Too much like the NEX-6 which sort of cheapens the other RX1 aesthetics a bit. That certainly will not "make or break" my purchase either.
Not that it would influence my purchase decision, if I were going to buy the A7, but, the more I look at the camera in these pics, the more that I have to admit to myself that it is kind of ugly. The lines of the camera are strange, with the top of the grip stopping between the top plate and body line. I honestly think the NEX-7/6, A900, A99, RX, etc. all look better. Either way, it should be an awesome camera.
Agree. That grip has looked odd to me from the start - Too much like the NEX-6 which sort of cheapens the other RX1 aesthetics a bit. That certainly will not "make or break" my purchase either.
Oct 14, 2013 at 03:37 PM
p.62 #4Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
So many camera fashionistas in this thread!
Does the look of your camera really help you to take better photos, or are you using your cameras as some kind of chic magnet?
I.m.o, size is all that matters. And when it comes to cameras, the smaller the better! (that's what she said, lol!)
Here is a size comparison between the Leica M and the A7 (same size as A7r)
http://i39./qrf3ap.jpg
The Sony is quite a bit smaller.
I like!
Does the look of your camera really help you to take better photos, or are you using your cameras as some kind of chic magnet?
I.m.o, size is all that matters. And when it comes to cameras, the smaller the better! (that's what she said, lol!)
Here is a size comparison between the Leica M and the A7 (same size as A7r)
http://i39./qrf3ap.jpg
The Sony is quite a bit smaller.
I like!Oct 14, 2013 at 03:37 PM
p.62 #5Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
The lens mount will be centered with the EVF housing, right? Every time I look at the A7 images, I get convinced the mount is to the right of center.
Every time I look at the A7 images, I get convinced the mount is to the right of center.Oct 14, 2013 at 03:53 PM
p.62 #6Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
The lens mount will be centered with the EVF housing, right? Every time I look at the A7 images, I get convinced the mount is to the right of center.
Trust your instincts. The lens mount is off center to the right looking at the front of the camera, just like with the Nex 7.
The lens mount will be centered with the EVF housing, right?
Every time I look at the A7 images, I get convinced the mount is to the right of center.Trust your instincts. The lens mount is off center to the right looking at the front of the camera, just like with the Nex 7.
Oct 14, 2013 at 03:59 PM
p.62 #7Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
One thing we haven't seen yet is the back side view of the new cameras. Someone pointed out on another forum that the reason the EVFs on the A7 and A7R are on the top is probably to make room for the larger LCD screen of the RX1 vs. the NEXs. I prefer the Nex 7 EVF placement, but will be happy to have the EVF in the "hump" if that gives us an RX1 like LCD screen.
http://camerasize.com/compact/#376,33,ha,b
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Oct 14, 2013 at 04:14 PM
p.62 #8Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Jeff Kott wrote:
Every time I look at the A7 images, I get convinced the mount is to the right of center.Trust your instincts. The lens mount is off center to the right looking at the front of the camera, just like with the Nex 7.
I'm of course sure it's not centered overall with the front of the body but I would think it should be centered with the fake "prism" housing. If not, that seems a bit odd.
Tariq Gibran wrote
The lens mount will be centered with the EVF housing, right? Every time I look at the A7 images, I get convinced the mount is to the right of center.I'm of course sure it's not centered overall with the front of the body but I would think it should be centered with the fake "prism" housing. If not, that seems a bit odd.
Oct 14, 2013 at 04:18 PM
p.62 #9Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
I'm of course sure it's not centered overall with the front of the body but I would think it should be centered with the fake "prism" housing. If not, that seems a bit odd.
Sorry, I misunderstood your question.
I'm of course sure it's not centered overall with the front of the body but I would think it should be centered with the fake "prism" housing. If not, that seems a bit odd.
Sorry, I misunderstood your question.
Oct 14, 2013 at 04:20 PM
p.62 #10Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
No problem, I figured you did. It may just be an optical illusion (that the mount is not centered with the EVF housing) due to the angle and the size of the grip.
Oct 14, 2013 at 04:21 PM
p.62 #11Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I am really curious to see if the EVF screen will seem (rightfully so) larger than the 7/6. The eyecup certainly suggests so.
I also don't see a built-in flash. I particularly like the rotateable one on my 7 and 6 and tend to use it frequently for fill-in.
I also don't see a built-in flash. I particularly like the rotateable one on my 7 and 6 and tend to use it frequently for fill-in.
Oct 14, 2013 at 05:04 PM
p.62 #12Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I'll be curious to see how the A7r compares to the Nikon 800E -- not only in image quality but in handling and overall capability and functionality. I've been exceptionally happy with the 800E, but if I can do and achieve the same things with the A7r, I could see myself switching for the size advantage. What I don't really like about the A7r is the ugly viewfinder hump. I would have gladly traded an overall increase in height of the main camera volume to get rid of it. It's also somewhat inconsistent with the Sony Japan teaser for the A7, “We stopped thinking about the way that the camera should be, then we started to see a new way of the camera. A camera, no one ever made” (then why did they feel it necessary to use a very traditional-looking, faux-pentaprism-like, viewfinder hump?).
Frankly, I'm (still) waiting for an update to either the NEX-6 or NEX-7. While I like the output from my NEX-5N and it's unique adaptability and a couple interesting ways to use it, it's controls and handling is extremely frustrating. On Saturday afternoon for example, I apparently inadvertently created 16 different movies of varying lengths. Definitely need to fix that.
Frankly, I'm (still) waiting for an update to either the NEX-6 or NEX-7. While I like the output from my NEX-5N and it's unique adaptability and a couple interesting ways to use it, it's controls and handling is extremely frustrating. On Saturday afternoon for example, I apparently inadvertently created 16 different movies of varying lengths. Definitely need to fix that.
Oct 14, 2013 at 06:26 PM
p.62 #13Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Lotusm50 wrote:
IWhat I don't really like about the A7r is the ugly viewfinder hump. I would have gladly traded an overall increase in height of the main camera volume to get rid of it.
I agree. Visual appeal is a subjective thing, but i find the viewfinder aesthetics quite ugly.
Having said that, I'm more interested in performance with Leica M lenses, dr, handling etc. If its more usable that my beloved D800e and gives me better output, I'll switch.
IWhat I don't really like about the A7r is the ugly viewfinder hump. I would have gladly traded an overall increase in height of the main camera volume to get rid of it.
I agree. Visual appeal is a subjective thing, but i find the viewfinder aesthetics quite ugly.
Having said that, I'm more interested in performance with Leica M lenses, dr, handling etc. If its more usable that my beloved D800e and gives me better output, I'll switch.
Oct 14, 2013 at 06:36 PM
p.62 #14Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Lotusm50 wrote:
It's also somewhat inconsistent with the Sony Japan teaser for the A7, “We stopped thinking about the way that the camera should be, then we started to see a new way of the camera. A camera, no one ever made” (then why did they feel it necessary to use a very traditional-looking, faux-pentaprism-like, viewfinder hump?).
Yeah, that's pretty awesome. I'd say it's much more than somewhat inconsistent
It's also somewhat inconsistent with the Sony Japan teaser for the A7, “We stopped thinking about the way that the camera should be, then we started to see a new way of the camera. A camera, no one ever made” (then why did they feel it necessary to use a very traditional-looking, faux-pentaprism-like, viewfinder hump?).
Yeah, that's pretty awesome. I'd say it's much more than somewhat inconsistent
Oct 14, 2013 at 06:57 PM
p.62 #15Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
The 36MP will benefit due to the lack of AA but might suffer due to the smaller sensel size (though I doubt much).
The 36MP a7r will have smaller pixels than the a7, but the 36MP a7r will have about the same size pixels as the 16 MP NEX5 and 6. If my math is correct, it is a 2.25X factor between APS-C and FF MP count. So, we should expect like performance of RF wides at least as good as the NEX 5/6 and hopefully better going to the corners of FF.
The Leica M8 and M9 have the same size pixels...
The 36MP will benefit due to the lack of AA but might suffer due to the smaller sensel size (though I doubt much).
The 36MP a7r will have smaller pixels than the a7, but the 36MP a7r will have about the same size pixels as the 16 MP NEX5 and 6. If my math is correct, it is a 2.25X factor between APS-C and FF MP count. So, we should expect like performance of RF wides at least as good as the NEX 5/6 and hopefully better going to the corners of FF.
The Leica M8 and M9 have the same size pixels...
Oct 14, 2013 at 07:27 PM
p.62 #16Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Rickuz wrote:
So many camera fashionistas in this thread!
Does the look of your camera really help you to take better photos, or are you using your cameras as some kind of chic magnet?
I.m.o, size is all that matters. And when it comes to cameras, the smaller the better! (that's what she said, lol!)
Here is a size comparison between the Leica M and the A7 (same size as A7r)
The Sony is quite a bit smaller. I like!
+1
haha so many fixated and animated by the shape of a camera body in an internet image.
hysterical.
the cognescenti dont care, one hump or two. If it's small, FF, and shoots the great glass well, it's a fantastic camera. The very first of it's kind. Whoever made it is my hero.
So many camera fashionistas in this thread!
Does the look of your camera really help you to take better photos, or are you using your cameras as some kind of chic magnet?
I.m.o, size is all that matters. And when it comes to cameras, the smaller the better! (that's what she said, lol!)
Here is a size comparison between the Leica M and the A7 (same size as A7r)
The Sony is quite a bit smaller.
I like!+1
haha so many fixated and animated by the shape of a camera body in an internet image.
hysterical.
the cognescenti dont care, one hump or two. If it's small, FF, and shoots the great glass well, it's a fantastic camera. The very first of it's kind. Whoever made it is my hero.
Oct 14, 2013 at 07:30 PM
p.62 #17Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
inglis wrote:
good point about speedbooster and whether or not to keep it with an aps Nex!
Cannot wait to see how the rangefinder wides work on the new 7s
and how the Contax Gs look full frame--------
Maybe now we will see MF to FF speed boosters to mount your Hassy 250.
good point about speedbooster and whether or not to keep it with an aps Nex!
Cannot wait to see how the rangefinder wides work on the new 7s
and how the Contax Gs look full frame--------
Maybe now we will see MF to FF speed boosters to mount your Hassy 250.
Oct 14, 2013 at 07:42 PM
p.62 #18Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Small and light is OK. But I am really looking forward to quiet and more WiFi options.
I really like the idea of running my architectural camera with my iPad. Low vibration and the ability to mount my 17TS-E would get me into one.
In reality the lenses will still be bulky if people start demanding fast zooms and primes.
I really like the idea of running my architectural camera with my iPad. Low vibration and the ability to mount my 17TS-E would get me into one.
In reality the lenses will still be bulky if people start demanding fast zooms and primes.
Oct 14, 2013 at 07:45 PM
p.62 #19Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
uhoh7 wrote:
the cognescenti dont care, one hump or two. If it's small, FF, and shoots the great glass well, it's a fantastic camera. The very first of it's kind. Whoever made it is my hero.
i'm not much enamored by the looks and i feel sure the ergonomics will be decent but not quite right. whoever made it isn't my hero, but whoever approved the project is. about time we got our mirrorless FF!
the cognescenti dont care, one hump or two. If it's small, FF, and shoots the great glass well, it's a fantastic camera. The very first of it's kind. Whoever made it is my hero.
i'm not much enamored by the looks and i feel sure the ergonomics will be decent but not quite right. whoever made it isn't my hero, but whoever approved the project is. about time we got our mirrorless FF!
Oct 14, 2013 at 08:43 PM
p.62 #20Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
uhoh7 wrote:
the cognescenti dont care, one hump or two. If it's small, FF, and shoots the great glass well, it's a fantastic camera. The very first of it's kind. Whoever made it is my hero.
+100
If this thing works well with my Leica M glass including the 21 SEL and 28 f2, I'm all set.
BTW, why the heck is this uglier than the Leica M? Seriously?
Have you guys had a chance to try the RX1R out? The same company is launching this A7 thing...
I kind of trust it will be good...
the cognescenti dont care, one hump or two. If it's small, FF, and shoots the great glass well, it's a fantastic camera. The very first of it's kind. Whoever made it is my hero.
+100
If this thing works well with my Leica M glass including the 21 SEL and 28 f2, I'm all set.
BTW, why the heck is this uglier than the Leica M? Seriously?
Have you guys had a chance to try the RX1R out? The same company is launching this A7 thing...
I kind of trust it will be good...
Oct 14, 2013 at 08:54 PM