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Archive 2013For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
p.2 #1For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
CSStevens wrote:
It will have more vignetting than a lens made for FF.Only slightly, if you look at the above example it's not too bad, it's totally useable.
Yes it's useable and rather good for being a lens for crop bodies. But it's not the same as a normal 35mm lens for FF like you wrote. It has more vignetting than a normal 35 FF lens shot at the same aperture.
There have also been other pics with FF in threads here at FM
Sven Jeppesen wrote
leo11877 wrote
So on a full frame does 35mm F/1.8 on this will produce the same effect as say a 35mm F/1.8 prime made for FF?Yes it's useable and rather good for being a lens for crop bodies. But it's not the same as a normal 35mm lens for FF like you wrote. It has more vignetting than a normal 35 FF lens shot at the same aperture.
There have also been other pics with FF in threads here at FM
Jul 12, 2013 at 02:26 PM
p.2 #2For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
Sven Jeppesen wrote:
It will have more vignetting than a lens made for FF.
The Zeiss 35/2 says 'hello'.
leo11877 wrote
So on a full frame does 35mm F/1.8 on this will produce the same effect as say a 35mm F/1.8 prime made for FF?The Zeiss 35/2 says 'hello'.
Jul 12, 2013 at 03:33 PM
p.2 #3For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
cputeq wrote:
It will have more vignetting than a lens made for FF.The Zeiss 35/2 says 'hello'.
So you can use the Zeiss 35/2 at f/1,8
Great news for you, but the rest of the world can't do that. Zeiss have the ZE 35/1,4 that we can use at f/1,8. And it have less vignetting than this Sigma zoom
Sven Jeppesen wrote
leo11877 wrote
So on a full frame does 35mm F/1.8 on this will produce the same effect as say a 35mm F/1.8 prime made for FF?So you can use the Zeiss 35/2 at f/1,8
Great news for you, but the rest of the world can't do that. Zeiss have the ZE 35/1,4 that we can use at f/1,8. And it have less vignetting than this Sigma zoomJul 13, 2013 at 01:56 AM
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p.2 #4For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
The Zeiss 35/2 does have quite a bit of vignetting as well:
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/503-zeiss35f2eosff?start=1
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/503-zeiss35f2eosff?start=1
Jul 13, 2013 at 03:39 AM
p.2 #5For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
Snopchenko wrote:
The Zeiss 35/2 does have quite a bit of vignetting as well:
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/503-zeiss35f2eosff?start=1
I own the the Zeiss lens. Yes it has a lot of vignetting. But less than the Sigma lens on FF. I have not been using the Sigma so I'm only comparing against the pics that I have seen from the Sigma lens.
The Zeiss 35/2 does have quite a bit of vignetting as well:
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/503-zeiss35f2eosff?start=1
I own the the Zeiss lens. Yes it has a lot of vignetting. But less than the Sigma lens on FF. I have not been using the Sigma so I'm only comparing against the pics that I have seen from the Sigma lens.
Jul 13, 2013 at 04:55 AM
p.2 #6For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
Sven Jeppesen wrote:
It will have more vignetting than a lens made for FF.The Zeiss 35/2 says 'hello'.So you can use the Zeiss 35/2 at f/1,8 Great news for you, but the rest of the world can't do that. Zeiss have the ZE 35/1,4 that we can use at f/1,8. And it have less vignetting than this Sigma zoom
You miss the point. The point I was making was that a slower lens *made* for FF has more vignetting than a faster lens (which typically has more vignetting wide open) "designed for APS-C".
Meaning, just because a lens fits X or Y mount doesn't give a completely accurate assessment of how it will vignette
Typically, yes, it would vignette more, but seems that's not always the case.
(that said, I still loved the Zeiss 35/2)
cputeq wrote
Sven Jeppesen wrote
leo11877 wrote
So on a full frame does 35mm F/1.8 on this will produce the same effect as say a 35mm F/1.8 prime made for FF? Great news for you, but the rest of the world can't do that. Zeiss have the ZE 35/1,4 that we can use at f/1,8. And it have less vignetting than this Sigma zoomYou miss the point. The point I was making was that a slower lens *made* for FF has more vignetting than a faster lens (which typically has more vignetting wide open) "designed for APS-C".
Meaning, just because a lens fits X or Y mount doesn't give a completely accurate assessment of how it will vignette
Typically, yes, it would vignette more, but seems that's not always the case.(that said, I still loved the Zeiss 35/2)
Jul 13, 2013 at 09:38 AM
p.2 #7For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
cputeq wrote:
It will have more vignetting than a lens made for FF.The Zeiss 35/2 says 'hello'.So you can use the Zeiss 35/2 at f/1,8 Great news for you, but the rest of the world can't do that. Zeiss have the ZE 35/1,4 that we can use at f/1,8. And it have less vignetting than this Sigma zoomYou miss the point. The point I was making was that a slower lens *made* for FF has more vignetting than a faster lens (which typically has more vignetting wide open) "designed for APS-C".
Meaning, just because a lens fits X or Y mount doesn't give a completely accurate assessment of how it will vignette Typically, yes, it would vignette more, but seems that's not always the case.
(that said, I still loved the Zeiss 35/2)
But the Zeiss 35/2 doesn't have more vignetting ! So I also missed the point ? What was the point then
Or did you claim the Zeiss has more vignetting than the Sigma on FF ?
Sven Jeppesen wrote
cputeq wrote
Sven Jeppesen wrote
leo11877 wrote
So on a full frame does 35mm F/1.8 on this will produce the same effect as say a 35mm F/1.8 prime made for FF? Great news for you, but the rest of the world can't do that. Zeiss have the ZE 35/1,4 that we can use at f/1,8. And it have less vignetting than this Sigma zoomMeaning, just because a lens fits X or Y mount doesn't give a completely accurate assessment of how it will vignette
Typically, yes, it would vignette more, but seems that's not always the case.(that said, I still loved the Zeiss 35/2)
But the Zeiss 35/2 doesn't have more vignetting ! So I also missed the point ? What was the point then
Or did you claim the Zeiss has more vignetting than the Sigma on FF ?Jul 13, 2013 at 10:19 AM
p.2 #8For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
Whatever the case, the vignetting among the aforementioned lenses is insignificant overall. At least in my case I know I can use the Sigma 35 1.8 on full frame and produce great quality images that my clients will be happy with (and of course use it on my 1D Mark IV as well). That's all that matters to me.
Jul 13, 2013 at 07:30 PM
p.2 #9For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
Interesting. So, it's:
35mm 1.8 on full frame
24-45mm equivalent 1.8 on 1.3 crop, with some vignetting at the wide end
28-50mm equivalent 1.8 on APS-C
Sounds very interesting for a PJ with a full frame camera with 1.3 and 1.5x crop modes, if one's willing to sacrifice resolution. (I believe no Canons have these but, of the current generation, the Nikon D4 and D800 do).
35mm 1.8 on full frame
24-45mm equivalent 1.8 on 1.3 crop, with some vignetting at the wide end
28-50mm equivalent 1.8 on APS-C
Sounds very interesting for a PJ with a full frame camera with 1.3 and 1.5x crop modes, if one's willing to sacrifice resolution. (I believe no Canons have these but, of the current generation, the Nikon D4 and D800 do).
Jul 13, 2013 at 10:44 PM
p.2 #10For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
MarcG19 wrote:
Interesting. So, it's:
35mm 1.8 on full frame
24-45mm equivalent 1.8 on 1.3 crop, with some vignetting at the wide end
28-50mm equivalent 1.8 on APS-C
Sounds very interesting for a PJ with a full frame camera with 1.3 and 1.5x crop modes, if one's willing to sacrifice resolution. (I believe no Canons have these but, of the current generation, the Nikon D4 and D800 do).
Yup, and of course Canon's 1D series (with the exception of the 1DX and 1Ds bodies) are all 1.3x, so as a photojournalist, who was debating between a 24, 28 and 35 prime as well, it's quite a treat.
Interesting. So, it's:
35mm 1.8 on full frame
24-45mm equivalent 1.8 on 1.3 crop, with some vignetting at the wide end
28-50mm equivalent 1.8 on APS-C
Sounds very interesting for a PJ with a full frame camera with 1.3 and 1.5x crop modes, if one's willing to sacrifice resolution. (I believe no Canons have these but, of the current generation, the Nikon D4 and D800 do).
Yup, and of course Canon's 1D series (with the exception of the 1DX and 1Ds bodies) are all 1.3x, so as a photojournalist, who was debating between a 24, 28 and 35 prime as well, it's quite a treat.
Jul 13, 2013 at 11:19 PM
p.2 #11For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
A question about potential use on full frame:
I saw the 35mm example posted in this thread on a 5D2 and it looks fine. Is the vignetting severe at the wider focal lengths?
Thanks
Dave
I saw the 35mm example posted in this thread on a 5D2 and it looks fine. Is the vignetting severe at the wider focal lengths?
Thanks
Dave
Jul 27, 2013 at 09:12 PM
p.2 #12For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
Lars Johnsson wrote:
It will have more vignetting than a lens made for FF.The Zeiss 35/2 says 'hello'.So you can use the Zeiss 35/2 at f/1,8 Great news for you, but the rest of the world can't do that. Zeiss have the ZE 35/1,4 that we can use at f/1,8. And it have less vignetting than this Sigma zoomYou miss the point. The point I was making was that a slower lens *made* for FF has more vignetting than a faster lens (which typically has more vignetting wide open) "designed for APS-C".
Meaning, just because a lens fits X or Y mount doesn't give a completely accurate assessment of how it will vignette Typically, yes, it would vignette more, but seems that's not always the case.
(that said, I still loved the Zeiss 35/2)But the Zeiss 35/2 doesn't have more vignetting ! So I also missed the point ? What was the point then Or did you claim the Zeiss has more vignetting than the Sigma on FF ?
Yeah maybe I'm mistaken - I thought the FF Sigma shot wasn't vignetting that much, but of course this is after post work so who knows?
I figured the ZE 35/2 vignetted so much on FF, there is no way nothing would beat it
cputeq wrote
Sven Jeppesen wrote
cputeq wrote
Sven Jeppesen wrote
leo11877 wrote
So on a full frame does 35mm F/1.8 on this will produce the same effect as say a 35mm F/1.8 prime made for FF? Great news for you, but the rest of the world can't do that. Zeiss have the ZE 35/1,4 that we can use at f/1,8. And it have less vignetting than this Sigma zoomMeaning, just because a lens fits X or Y mount doesn't give a completely accurate assessment of how it will vignette
Typically, yes, it would vignette more, but seems that's not always the case.(that said, I still loved the Zeiss 35/2)
Or did you claim the Zeiss has more vignetting than the Sigma on FF ?Yeah maybe I'm mistaken - I thought the FF Sigma shot wasn't vignetting that much, but of course this is after post work so who knows?
I figured the ZE 35/2 vignetted so much on FF, there is no way nothing would beat it
Jul 27, 2013 at 09:52 PM
p.2 #13For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
Can anyone with a full frame camera and 18-35 lens confirm at what focal lengths the vignetting is passable?
The example of 35mm looked fine. Can the lens do 28mm on FF or is the vignetting severe?
Thanks
Dave
The example of 35mm looked fine. Can the lens do 28mm on FF or is the vignetting severe?
Thanks
Dave
Jul 30, 2013 at 07:19 PM
p.2 #14For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
dthrog00 wrote:
Can anyone with a full frame camera and 18-35 lens confirm at what focal lengths the vignetting is passable?
The example of 35mm looked fine. Can the lens do 28mm on FF or is the vignetting severe?
Thanks
Dave
Waiting for that answer as well
Can anyone with a full frame camera and 18-35 lens confirm at what focal lengths the vignetting is passable?
The example of 35mm looked fine. Can the lens do 28mm on FF or is the vignetting severe?
Thanks
Dave
Waiting for that answer as well
Aug 03, 2013 at 10:19 PM
p.2 #15For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
IndyFab wrote:
Waiting for that answer as well
Wait no longer:
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Comparisons/Sigma-18-35mm-f-1.8-DC-HSM-Lens.aspx
(scroll to bottom of page)
dthrog00 wrote
The example of 35mm looked fine. Can the lens do 28mm on FF or is the vignetting severe?Wait no longer:
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Comparisons/Sigma-18-35mm-f-1.8-DC-HSM-Lens.aspx
(scroll to bottom of page)
Aug 16, 2013 at 04:19 AM
p.2 #16For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
Just bumping this thread to see if any more members have tried this lens on their 1.3 sensor cameras. I'd love to see more samples too, if possible. Thanks!
Jan 02, 2014 at 03:40 PM
p.2 #17For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
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If anyone needs full focal length test on the 1.3x crop I can do a quick shot tomorrow afternoon against the sky if its blue out.
Jan 03, 2014 at 08:20 PM
p.2 #18For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
johnctharp wrote:
I doubt they're worried. I mean, every time I try to find a Sigma lens for some application, I find that it fails in one way or another compared to one or more Canon lenses. I don't mean to dig at Sigma, that's just what I keep running into.
Hi John,
Not to start a war, but I am curious as to how you're defining "fail" here. I've been shooting Sigma glass for quite a few years now (see my profile) and have yet to meet with any, um, failure with any of my Siggy's. So, um, what is it that you're "running into"? Truly, I'm not looking to pick a fight, just...
Curious, in Putnam County.
Jimmy G
I doubt they're worried. I mean, every time I try to find a Sigma lens for some application, I find that it fails in one way or another compared to one or more Canon lenses. I don't mean to dig at Sigma, that's just what I keep running into.
Hi John,
Not to start a war, but I am curious as to how you're defining "fail" here. I've been shooting Sigma glass for quite a few years now (see my profile) and have yet to meet with any, um, failure with any of my Siggy's. So, um, what is it that you're "running into"? Truly, I'm not looking to pick a fight, just...
Curious, in Putnam County.
Jimmy G
Jan 03, 2014 at 08:40 PM
p.2 #19For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
I should say, 'fail to meet my expectations for purchase'. I started with their 50/1.4, but as I considered other lenses, I found it rather difficult to find Sigma lenses that didn't have some kind of issue that turned me off.
I should add, there are a number of lenses that have my interest for various applications. However, I'm personally not in a hurry. I'm definitely excited to see what they come up with in their 'New World Vision' series.
I should add, there are a number of lenses that have my interest for various applications. However, I'm personally not in a hurry. I'm definitely excited to see what they come up with in their 'New World Vision' series.
Jan 03, 2014 at 09:24 PM
p.2 #20For 1D owners out there... the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 works on a 1.3x crop!
codyconway wrote:
If anyone needs full focal length test on the 1.3x crop I can do a quick shot tomorrow afternoon against the sky if its blue out.
Thanks for the samples Cody, much appreciated. Do you have any at the wide end of the range, 18 to 24mm? How good is it wide open? How do you like the build and AF speed?
If anyone needs full focal length test on the 1.3x crop I can do a quick shot tomorrow afternoon against the sky if its blue out.
Thanks for the samples Cody, much appreciated. Do you have any at the wide end of the range, 18 to 24mm? How good is it wide open? How do you like the build and AF speed?
Jan 03, 2014 at 10:18 PM