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philber
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p.4 #1 · New Leica Mini?


The reason APS-H sounds very unlikely is that Leica are a very small volume manufacturer. The idea that they will commission a custom sensor of special size is just not on. The only way they might get one into their cam is to take a Type 240 FF sensor and "only" use part of it. But that is hardly cheap... That said, I'd love the idea...
And if they use the Sony 16Mp, there have been so many implementations of it that it would be hard to see Leica really outshine others with it, which it ought to in order to justify a stiff price.



May 23, 2013 at 11:42 PM
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p.4 #2 · New Leica Mini?


Exactly my thinking Philippe. This camera has to be FF in order to succeed. The question is fixed lens or not.


May 24, 2013 at 12:54 AM
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p.4 #3 · New Leica Mini?


Edward, I agree with you. But some of Leica's actions are so bizarre that I have to wonder whether succeeding is actually one of their strategic goals.


May 24, 2013 at 12:55 AM
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p.4 #4 · New Leica Mini?


I'd be surprised if they gave anything the M designation that couldn't mount M lenses.


May 24, 2013 at 03:06 AM
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p.4 #5 · New Leica Mini?


freaklikeme wrote:
I'd be surprised if they gave anything the M designation that couldn't mount M lenses.


http://en.leica-camera.com/home/

Seems kind of like they might be though.



May 24, 2013 at 03:14 AM
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p.4 #6 · New Leica Mini?


freaklikeme wrote:
I'd be surprised if they gave anything the M designation that couldn't mount M lenses.


Except that their announcement labels the X2 as the "MICRO M" and the D-Lux 6 as the "NANO M"...

Ha, helimat beat me to the punch!



May 24, 2013 at 03:14 AM
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p.4 #7 · New Leica Mini?


helimat wrote:
http://en.leica-camera.com/home/

Seems kind of like they might be though.


Still interested in the Leica, Mat?

The M designation imo can mean anything. We shouldn't take it too seriously. Just marketing talk.



May 24, 2013 at 03:21 AM
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p.4 #8 · New Leica Mini?


There is zero chance that Leica will start a new mount for the mini M IMHO. Either it is M mount, or it is fixed lens. As the X series is already fixed lens APS-C, I don't see that happening with the Mini. Also, I have info that says it is interchangeable lens APS-C. That info is about a year old, but was solid.


May 24, 2013 at 03:22 AM
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p.4 #9 · New Leica Mini?


Half a small m&m?


May 24, 2013 at 03:46 AM
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p.4 #10 · New Leica Mini?


edwardkaraa wrote:
Still interested in the Leica, Mat?


Let's just say I am 'M-curious'.





May 24, 2013 at 04:04 AM
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p.4 #11 · New Leica Mini?


At this point I'd be pleasantly surprised if it was a kitten. I see discussion has leant towards a FF sensor. I can't see it being mirrorless as it would eat their RF, but who knows. I'm hoping for fixed lens, but not 'slow'.


May 24, 2013 at 04:35 AM
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p.4 #12 · New Leica Mini?


I just read the corresponding thread over at http://www.l-camera-forum.com

It's depressing how many members are predicting the 'Mini M' will be APS-C rather than fullframe.

I am not sure if this demonstrates a lack of judgement about the market or whether it's a general sentiment that might inform Leica's decision making as well.

Meanwhile the Leica Rumors guy is saying a fixed lens zoom

"This is exactly what I am hearing too - a new X with a zoom lens."

http://leicarumors.com/2013/05/23/new-leica-mini-m-camera-coming-on-june-11.aspx/



May 24, 2013 at 04:51 AM
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p.4 #13 · New Leica Mini?


Who ever wants a zoom?


May 24, 2013 at 04:57 AM
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p.4 #14 · New Leica Mini?


ricardovaste wrote:
Who ever wants a zoom?


It's like they've got no self-respect..



May 24, 2013 at 05:01 AM
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p.4 #15 · New Leica Mini?


Will the price be mini too ? .


May 24, 2013 at 06:40 AM
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p.4 #16 · New Leica Mini?


edwardkaraa wrote:
Still interested in the Leica, Mat?

The M designation imo can mean anything. We shouldn't take it too seriously. Just marketing talk.


It seems the "M" once meant something very specific - "Messsucher". A measuring viewfinder - combined rangefinder with viewfinder. That would not appear to be the case any longer given that Leica marketing is lumping the X2 in with the M.



May 24, 2013 at 06:46 AM
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p.4 #17 · New Leica Mini?


if it's fixed lens with a pancake 40 summicron and some sort of viewfinder BUILT IN the body I'm interested, even if it's one or two sizes below FF.

Highly unlikely though, it will probably be some sillycam with zoom that you hold at arm's length.

Edited on May 24, 2013 at 07:16 AM · View previous versions



May 24, 2013 at 07:15 AM
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p.4 #18 · New Leica Mini?


There's a quote from noted Leica-phile Thorsten Overgaard:

"A Leica mini-M seem to be under development and will - according to Stefan Daniel at a speech back in September 2010- not be ready for Photokina 2012... So we are talking later than that. But what we do know is that they are aiming at a mirrorles camera (the Leica M has always been mirrorless, but we're probably talking CMOS sensors that will enabe live view and thus focus confirmation). This camerea will also contain the R-solution which means that it will be able to take R lenses and offer focus confirmation for these."

http://www.scoop.it/t/thorstenovergaard



May 24, 2013 at 07:16 AM
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p.4 #19 · New Leica Mini?


f.hayek wrote:
There's a quote from noted Leica-phile Thorsten Overgaard:

"A Leica mini-M seem to be under development and will - according to Stefan Daniel at a speech back in September 2010- not be ready for Photokina 2012... So we are talking later than that. But what we do know is that they are aiming at a mirrorles camera (the Leica M has always been mirrorless, but we're probably talking CMOS sensors that will enabe live view and thus focus confirmation). This camerea will also contain the R-solution which means that it will be able to take R lenses and offer focus confirmation
...Show more

If it's intended to really be an "R-Solution" than it really would make no sense if it were not FF. That info looks old (based on a speech from 2010!) so things could have changed. The above sounds like the M 240 imo.



May 24, 2013 at 07:25 AM
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p.4 #20 · New Leica Mini?


philber wrote:
There is zero chance that Leica will start a new mount for the mini M IMHO. Either it is M mount, or it is fixed lens. As the X series is already fixed lens APS-C, I don't see that happening with the Mini. Also, I have info that says it is interchangeable lens APS-C. That info is about a year old, but was solid.


Outside possibility it's m43 mount. I consider that unlikely but possible. If so, it will probably be related to the GX2.

But I consider an M mount APS-C body, based either on the CL or the X2, to be most likely.

Frankly, I'd prefer the m43 option. Would make it far less likely that the two Leica DG lenses will be semi-orphans like they are today. I'd love to see more Leica glass become available in m43 mount, particularly some wides.



May 24, 2013 at 09:33 AM
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