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p.1 #1 · X100s vs X-pro 1


Hey guys,

I'm just jumping into the Fuji system and I wanted to get feedback from somebody who had experience shooting the new X100s and the X-Pro 1. I love what I'm seeing from the 35 1.4, and a 50mm equivalent is fine for the type of shooting I do. I'm curious as to how the 35 1.4 compares to the 23 f/2 on the x100 and x100s?

I'd primarily be using this camera as a walk around and maybe throw it into my wedding work for a more discrete shooting experience. I've seen some great wedding work with both the x100s (Brian Kraft's work) as well as the X pro 1, so it's not out of the question. How does the AF speed compare between the two?

Thanks everyone,

Mike



Mar 30, 2013 at 11:52 AM
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p.1 #2 · X100s vs X-pro 1


The X100s's autofocus is leagues ahead of the X-Pro 1's.


Mar 30, 2013 at 01:35 PM
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p.1 #3 · X100s vs X-pro 1


Where is the XE-1's AF compared to the two?


Mar 30, 2013 at 01:40 PM
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p.1 #4 · X100s vs X-pro 1


A little slower than the XE-1.. but its accurate.


Mar 30, 2013 at 01:47 PM
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p.1 #5 · X100s vs X-pro 1


Still not near the X100's. The phase detection AF makes the difference.


Mar 30, 2013 at 01:47 PM
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p.1 #6 · X100s vs X-pro 1


But the phase detection pixels are only in the center of the frame, right? Would the outer focus points be the same speed/accuracy as the X100/X-pro1?


Mar 30, 2013 at 01:48 PM
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p.1 #7 · X100s vs X-pro 1


I would never use those points myself, so it's irrelevant in my case. Not sure why anyone would, in fact.


Mar 30, 2013 at 01:57 PM
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p.1 #8 · X100s vs X-pro 1


Focus/recompose shooting wide open would shift the shallow plane of focus too much, wouldn't it?


Mar 30, 2013 at 03:09 PM
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p.1 #9 · X100s vs X-pro 1


I rarely shoot wide open, although it has never really been an issue for me regardless.


Mar 30, 2013 at 03:14 PM
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p.1 #10 · X100s vs X-pro 1


X100S is still very slow in low light, but it's a lot better in bright light, the little I've used it.


Mar 30, 2013 at 11:13 PM
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p.1 #11 · X100s vs X-pro 1


mnakhla wrote:
Focus/recompose shooting wide open would shift the shallow plane of focus too much, wouldn't it?



This argument always stumps me. Focus and recompose has been used on super-wide aperture glass for a long time, and it works if you take the time to think about how it works and adapt. You can get minimal movement of the plane of focus, but i) it's usually not a problem, and ii) it can be compensated for pretty easily by practice.

That's not an argument against adding phase detect pixels to all focus point areas. Some people like to use off-center focus points (I don't), and shooting is a personal thing.

But the whole focus-recompose focus plane shift with wide aperture lenses is super overblown on forums. Notably when you're at anything beyond MFD (and if you're at MFD you can see and make adjustments or shoot manual pretty easily).

And when you're talking about an APS-C, f/2 aperture lens--- it's even less an issue.



Mar 31, 2013 at 05:15 AM
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p.1 #12 · X100s vs X-pro 1


The X100s vs X-Pro/XE mainly seems to be one of focal length. If you only need one, and you only need 35mm equiv... than the X100s is a no-brainer.

I wouldn't based it on whether the two lenses are sharper/better performing. All the Fuji lenses are up to part optically. They'll get the job done.

But the difference between 35mm and 53mm is significant. If you need 35mm, 53mm just won't cut it. Same in reverse.



Mar 31, 2013 at 05:17 AM
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p.1 #13 · X100s vs X-pro 1


It's about focal length yes, but also about freedom to switch lens.
The X100s seem to be fine but the lens perhaps not, at least not for everybody (I mentioned in the X110/X100s thread about ugly flare I noticed in nearly every night shot where there is a point of light in the background).
The Fujinon 35/1.4 seems so much nicer but it is an equiv 53mm lens and as you say, it is not the same. So, I think discussing X100 versus X-Pro/XE is a bit premature. The planned Fujinon 23/1.4 need to materialize first and then I'll have a long hard look at the samples from it.



Mar 31, 2013 at 06:24 AM
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p.1 #14 · X100s vs X-pro 1


not sure what else you're shooting with but before jumping into fuji try to get some raw files and make sure they work for your usual processing, they are very different to nikon and canon files in terms of how they react to LR/PS. Today I was shooting product photography with raw+jpeg, and after tinkering with the raw files for ages I realised I was making them nowhere near as good as the in-camera jpegs (velvia setting) and in the end I just used those. This is not necessarily a bad thing, it all depends on your workflow.

IMO all the lenses are very good, I have the 35, 18 and the 23 on the x100s. AF is better on the x100s but still nothing to write home about. It works if you get used to it, and on the x100s you have some very workable solutions for MF when AF doesn't cut it. When the xpro1 gets them too it will be a killer camera, at the moment the slow AF and low res EVF can be annoying at times.



Mar 31, 2013 at 06:47 AM
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p.1 #15 · X100s vs X-pro 1


What it boils down to is: do you want an ILS (interchangeable lens system), or a fixed 35mm equivalency. For practical purposes the AF difference is neglectable. Pro1+18mm and 35mm gives you a good combo that covers wide angle to normal, and the 18mm's close focus is really a plus.

On the other hand, if you can settle for just one focal distance, the x100 is compact and the silver look is a little more retro, IMO.



Apr 01, 2013 at 10:07 PM
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p.1 #16 · X100s vs X-pro 1


Thanks guys,

I'm shooting with a D3s and a D800E with a bunch of 1.4G primes. My X100s should be here tomorrow. I'll report my experiences back here, thanks for all the info



Apr 01, 2013 at 10:09 PM
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p.1 #17 · X100s vs X-pro 1


I just sold my XP 1 amd my x100s arrives tomorrow. Smaller, same sensor, better af. No contest.


Apr 01, 2013 at 10:14 PM
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p.1 #18 · X100s vs X-pro 1


mnakhla wrote:
Thanks guys,

I'm shooting with a D3s and a D800E with a bunch of 1.4G primes. My X100s should be here tomorrow. I'll report my experiences back here, thanks for all the info


So, your X100s is in the Buy/Sell. What's not to like? I have X100s GAS bad, I gotta know!



Apr 02, 2013 at 08:24 PM
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p.1 #19 · X100s vs X-pro 1


I keep going back and forth between the X100s and my RX1. I prefer the files of the RX1, despite the much better X100s autofocus and handling.


Apr 02, 2013 at 08:26 PM
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p.1 #20 · X100s vs X-pro 1


Lol, I wish the RX1 was manual focus only, but Sony needed a broad appeal design, so it got this fly by wire nonsense, along with mass appeal AF.




Apr 02, 2013 at 09:20 PM
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