p.11 #1 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
jzucker wrote:
Why? The windows 8 tablets are essentially notebook computers with a touchscreen. Overall system memory could be an issue though. But a netbook is probably a better idea.
because light room is designede to work with a mouse maby?
p.11 #2 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
lou f wrote:
because light room is designede to work with a mouse maby?
Come on....Does nobody have any imagination?!? After windows 8 rolls out, adobe will release a touch enabled version. In addition to the tablets, windows 8 desktops, laptops and netbooks are coming out and supporting touch screens.
Adobe will support touch in their applications. Just think about the fact that adobe supports Wacom tablets and I expect the number of windows 8 installations to be at least 1000X more prevalent.
p.11 #4 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
jzucker wrote:
Come on....Does nobody have any imagination?!? After windows 8 rolls out, adobe will release a touch enabled version. In addition to the tablets, windows 8 desktops, laptops and netbooks are coming out and supporting touch screens.
Adobe will support touch in their applications. Just think about the fact that adobe supports Wacom tablets and I expect the number of windows 8 installations to be at least 1000X more prevalent.
yep and it'll be the exact same as what they do for the ipad, coz thats the market leader.
p.11 #5 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
lou f wrote:
yep and it'll be the exact same as what they do for the ipad, coz thats the market leader.
Except they don't have lightroom for ipad which is what my original posting was about. So many folks are replying without bothering to read the original posting.
p.11 #7 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
vuilang wrote:
does anyone able to play Flash on your ipad? I tried jailbreak, install cracked flash.. but nothing works on my Ipad.
1 (important) reason why the i'm waiting for MS tab.
arnt adobe ditching flash for moble devices and going with html5?
p.11 #8 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
lou f wrote:
arnt adobe ditching flash for moble devices and going with html5?
It doesn't matter what adobe is doing in that regard. The issue is that there are still a significant number of sites still using flash. At some point this will be a non issue but sites are slower converting to HTML5 than originally predicted.
In my brief flirtation with the ipad 3, I loved the display but it was annoying having to convert movies and file formats to ones that steve jobs deemed "acceptable" for the ipad and many sites, including whcc (my print lab) still use flash.
If adobe ever releases an ios version of lightroom (doubtful) I would consider the ipad .
p.11 #9 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
i dont think the 8 intel tablet battery life is going to alow you to get much done before it shuts down, i think you may be best served by an ultrabook on a 11'' mba runing windows if osx isnt to your liking. turning up to a clinent and asking for the power socket is pretty piss poor.
p.11 #10 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
mawz wrote:
Win on a Mac is pretty common around here. But only on laptops, were the Apple hardware is some of the nicest and fastest around. Nobody runs Windows on a Mac Pro (which is overpriced and severely outdated).
p.11 #11 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
lou f wrote:
i dont think the 8 intel tablet battery life is going to alow you to get much done before it shuts down, i think you may be best served by an ultrabook on a 11'' mba runing windows if osx isnt to your liking. turning up to a clinent and asking for the power socket is pretty piss poor.
Acer and Asus are claiming 6-8 hour battery life for their x86 windows 8 tablets but I'm probably going to target a netbook instead of a tablet.
p.11 #13 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
jzucker wrote:
Come on....Does nobody have any imagination?!? After windows 8 rolls out, adobe will release a touch enabled version. In addition to the tablets, windows 8 desktops, laptops and netbooks are coming out and supporting touch screens.
Adobe will support touch in their applications. Just think about the fact that adobe supports Wacom tablets and I expect the number of windows 8 installations to be at least 1000X more prevalent.
While it is a possibility for Lightroom, I am skeptical. Imagine all the things you do with the mouse on a real computer, and then imagine those same tasks with the fat end of a finger. Accuracy will be very hard, at which point a whole bunch of adjustments become undesirable. General slider tweaks, sure, but not a full workflow with local adjustments.
I think that Photoshop is out of the question. That codebase is too old and creaky, just look at how long it took Adobe to move it to Cocoa. What we will get here is Mobile Photoshop, which I find uncompelling.
My hopes are on third-party workflow apps which somehow tie to the desktop apps. I did name an app earlier in this thread which can work with Lightroom catalogs on the iPad, and that is the general direction I expect. I presume something similar, or perhaps the same app, will be available on Android tablets, and maybe Windows tablets if they take off. Surface does look interesting, so the chances are good.
p.11 #14 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
carstenw wrote:
While it is a possibility for Lightroom, I am skeptical. Imagine all the things you do with the mouse on a real computer, and then imagine those same tasks with the fat end of a finger. Accuracy will be very hard, at which point a whole bunch of adjustments become undesirable. General slider tweaks, sure, but not a full workflow with local adjustments..
The same could be said of a wacom tablet but when you want accuracy you use a stylus. It'll come. When you're working in lightroom, things like cropping and flipping from one image to another would make sense with gestures.
There are already thousands of artists doing work on ipads which counters your theory about fingers not having enough resolution for photoshop. When you want detail you just gesture the image up in size. But I think a stylus is the real answer.
Most photoshop artists I know lust after the Cintiq Pen Displays which implements pretty much what I adobe can already support without much change in their product but once the touch displays and windows 8 proliferates, it'll be a no-brainer marketing requirement.
p.11 #15 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
The difference is in the technology, though. A Wacom tablet comes with a purpose-made pen, and the two are matched in characteristics. I have an A6 wide version. The styluses for iPad-like screens are still very fat, or they just don't work. I have two, as I enjoy drawing, and have three different drawing programs for the iPad. My favourite program is probably "Paper", although it is more of idea sketching program. The styluses I have tried range from awful to barely acceptable. The tips are very fat, and too squishy. I tried stuffing soft paper into the hollow tip of one of them to make it firmer, but it stopped working.
I think before drawing on tablets can really take off we need new technology. The current generation is not that useful. I am not sure what tech is in a Cintiq, but they are very expensive, otherwise I would already own one. Note that you can't use a finger on a graphics tablet, just as you can't use a graphics tablet pen on a touch-screen tablet. These are different, incompatible technologies.
Cropping and flipping between images will probably work perfectly, but that isn't really Lightroom then, just a presentation app, which is fine.
p.11 #16 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
carstenw wrote:
The difference is in the technology, though. A Wacom tablet comes with a purpose-made pen
So does the new sony touch screen and the new samsung and so does the cintiq.
I'm sure this will be more and more common but even if not, touch-screen is the new fad and adobe will want their products to support it. I happen to know several developers at adobe and they are not asleep at the wheel on this.
p.11 #17 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
Well, the technology has to match the intended use. The Cintiq is not operable by finger, to my knowledge. I don't know which Sony or Samsung touch screen you mean, so I cannot comment there.
If you are indeed right about Adobe (and nothing is decided until the managers say go...), then I guess we will see Lightroom on tablets at some point. I am very curious what it will be like, and what the tablets will be like which support it. My bet is on the x86-based Windows tablets, simply because I think that the iPads and Android tablets will be under-powered for this, not to mention the type of screens they currently use. As such, I also wonder if the Windows x86 tablets will be compelling and interesting, or if they will feel like the love child of a fat unattractive tablets and an underpowered laptop. Only time will show.
p.11 #18 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
carstenw wrote:
The Cintiq is not operable by finger, to my knowledge.
Wacom does make the Cintiq 24HD Touch now, which accepts both Wacom pen/stylus and touch input. I don't know if the touch input is solely capacitive though. The price is impressively "pricey" however.
carstenw wrote:
I also wonder if ...they will feel like the love child of a fat unattractive tablets and an underpowered laptop.
Quote, for the record! That's funny to read
p.11 #19 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
You can already read specs on the sony, acer and asus windows 8 (x86) tablets. They look to be thinner than a netbook but thicker than an ipad.
After looking at microsoft's initial windows 8 (RT) offering, I have to admit my confidence of the platform succeeding have taken a hit. Their initial offering seems very poorly conceived. I can't imagine for the life of me who would buy it. The best hope for windows 8 may be the x86 hardware vendors support for it.
p.11 #20 · I think i'm going to buy a windows 8 tablet
sirimiri wrote:
Wacom does make the Cintiq 24HD Touch now, which accepts both Wacom pen/stylus and touch input. I don't know if the touch input is solely capacitive though.
That's interesting! I wonder if it operates effortlessly, like a capacitive touch screen, and accurately, like a Wacom tablet. If yes to both, that is really impressive tech, and I guess where iPads et al might head in a year or two. I'll have to look for one in a store to play with.
