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p.10 #1 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


douglasf13 wrote:
To make the lens so small, it very likely has elements only a few millimeters from the sensor, inside the camera body itself. I'd say there is no way this lens comes off the camera.


People cried and whined about the X100 having a fixed lens and look how successful that camera was/is.



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:04 AM
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p.10 #2 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


rattymouse wrote:
People cried and whined about the X100 having a fixed lens and look how successful that camera was/is.


I agree. I love my X100,and I'm fine with a fixed lens. Fixed lenses are especially good for making cameras small in the realm of digital.



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:09 AM
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p.10 #3 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


_julian_ wrote:
It was only a day ago that it was claimed the camera was a "PRO NEX", and even full-frame had not been conclusively confirmed.




Steve Huff just posted something like "I've never said it would be a NEX, I said it would be ground breaking..."
Seems like a fixed lens for sure...



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:18 AM
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p.10 #4 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


It's interesting, but still not what I want, which is a FF mirrorless with an EVF and a mount for changing lenses.

I do hope Sony do well with this camera, as it will give them the fuel to continue pushing the envelop.



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:21 AM
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p.10 #5 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


douglasf13 wrote:
To make the lens so small, it very likely has elements only a few millimeters from the sensor, inside the camera body itself. I'd say there is no way this lens comes off the camera.


Agree. The sensor probably has offset microlenses optimized for the lens as well. I guess this was the only way they could overcome the cornes issues for now.



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:22 AM
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p.10 #6 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


I'm anxious to see the rumored Evf and Ovf. If the Ovf has some kind of center focus point confirmation, that would be really great for me.


Sep 10, 2012 at 12:24 AM
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p.10 #7 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


I wonder how much Sony plan to charge for a FF NEX?






Sep 10, 2012 at 12:30 AM
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p.10 #8 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


rattymouse wrote:
Put this new Sony next to a Nikon D700 and see the difference. Just because the Sony does not fit in your pocket does not negate this difference.



it'll fit in my coat pocket. is there even an apc-c camera that is more pocketable? (retorical question, the answer is no!)



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:30 AM
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p.10 #9 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


Yeah, take an RX100 and bolt the Sigma NEX 30/2.8 on the front of it, and you get about the size of the RX1. Remarkable, really.


Sep 10, 2012 at 12:33 AM
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p.10 #10 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


rattymouse wrote:
People cried and whined about the X100 having a fixed lens and look how successful that camera was/is.



To be more specific, about 95% of people who likely wouldn't of bought the camera anyway where the ones complaining.

Nothing against the P&S crowd, or people who's only camera is a DSLR is a Rebel Ti w/ kit lens etc, but so many times those are the people I see filling comment sections about what a joke a fixed lens camera is and how they aren't going to buy it. Well frankly even if it had a zoom lens etc those same people still wouldn't buy it. Did they rush out to buy a Xpro then with its ability to change lens ? Nope lol

It would be like me complaining a BMW M5 doesn't have a cupholder because you know what, even if I had 8 cupholders, there isn't a chance in heck I'm a legitimate potential customer for that type of car save for winning the lottery.

Let me be clear, there are people who do need/want a zoom lens and that are great photogs and maybe were potential lost customers, but of the naysayers, they are usually a small minority in a huge group of non potential customers who just like to bash stuff on the internet




Sep 10, 2012 at 12:35 AM
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p.10 #11 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


sebboh wrote:
it'll fit in my coat pocket. is there even an apc-c camera that is more pocketable? (retorical question, the answer is no!)



Coat pocket sized cameras are all well and good......however, you know what I hate just as much as carrying a camera bag everywhere ?

A coat when its 90 degrees out!


Its nice of course when a camera can fit into a coat when you actually want to wear on. But then again, I can actually fit a FF pro DSLR sans lens into my ski parka lol



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM
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p.10 #12 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


edwardkaraa wrote:
Well, the ZM 35/2 has a 43mm filter size, but it's considerably longer though.


but the ZM 35/2 can't AF!



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:41 AM
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p.10 #13 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


EOS20 wrote:
I wonder how much Sony plan to charge for a FF NEX?


Technically, if they took the 35mm f2.0 Zeiss off, it could cost only $1,999. However, I have a feeling they will do what Fuji did with X-Pro 1 and charge more than expected for a interchangeable version. Still, I can't see this costing more than $3k for an interchangeable version. I still think a problem for an interchangeable version is that lenses for the system will not be as compact as people want them to be .



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:52 AM
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p.10 #14 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


millsart wrote:
Coat pocket sized cameras are all well and good......however, you know what I hate just as much as carrying a camera bag everywhere ?

A coat when its 90 degrees out!

Its nice of course when a camera can fit into a coat when you actually want to wear on. But then again, I can actually fit a FF pro DSLR sans lens into my ski parka lol


I guess my jeans are too tight, because, as I mentioned earlier, there are no cameras that fit in my pockets, because they're already full with my phone, keys, etc.



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:53 AM
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p.10 #15 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


millsart wrote:
Coat pocket sized cameras are all well and good......however, you know what I hate just as much as carrying a camera bag everywhere ?

A coat when its 90 degrees out!

Its nice of course when a camera can fit into a coat when you actually want to wear on. But then again, I can actually fit a FF pro DSLR sans lens into my ski parka lol


i live in san francisco. everyday the high is 75 and the low is 55. i am always comfortable in a light coat (that can hold my NEX-7 plus 40 cron no problem incidently).

having lived in chicago i see your point. i was too hot going out in the summer in just a swimsuit.



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:53 AM
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p.10 #16 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


jonrock wrote:
I still think a problem for an interchangeable version is that lenses for the system will not be as compact as people want them to be .


+1. I'd bet several of the elements in the RX1 lens are in the actual camera body.



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:55 AM
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p.10 #17 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


douglasf13 wrote:
I guess my jeans are too tight


hipster!



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:56 AM
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p.10 #18 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


sebboh wrote:
hipster!


Hey, in my band playing days, my pants were much tighter. I'm just talking regular Levis here.



Sep 10, 2012 at 12:58 AM
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p.10 #19 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


douglasf13 wrote:
Hey, in my band playing days, my pants were much tighter. I'm just talking regular Levis here.


I think Levis also makes baggy or loose fit jeans. Maybe that's the solution for mirrorless G.A.S. Don't buy a smaller camera just buy bigger pants.



Sep 10, 2012 at 01:11 AM
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p.10 #20 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)


Pants, who needs 'em? Beckham with the RX1 :

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1sRO_u_cR2I/Tt3HjksvwKI/AAAAAAAAB00/uZVnL5WsZi8/s1600/Beckham%2B01.jpg



Sep 10, 2012 at 01:15 AM
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