p.194 #1 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
The Sony has vastly superior output, the Fuji has vastly superior handling. Which is better depends on your priorities. I like my RX1R but probably will list it soon, I end up shooting much more with other cameras that are more fun. Admittedly I also find myself using 35mm less these days.
fatswaller48 wrote:
I'm glad that somebody else resurrected this old extensive thread, I wouldn't have been aware of it otherewise.
I need some help and advice. I want a substantial upgrade from my Fuji XA-2 which I bought about 2 years ago as a trial to see if I like Fuji before buying an X100T now F. The XA-2 is very likeable but in bright sunlight the LCD is impossible to see-cameras without a viewfinder or EVF should have health warning! Long story short - I was about to buy the Fuji X100f but thought I would check alternatives before purchasing, and have gone round in circles since, but then settled on a Sony A7r ii with a Sony 35mm f2.8. Late in the day it occurred to me that my ageing Mac Mini probably would't cope with the files generated by the 42mp sensor. So it was back to the Fuji until I stumbled across this thread about the Sony RX1 which I didn't realize had a 24mp sensor and might make life a little more manageble. RX1r's on ebay are well within budget and I could afford the optional attachable EVF and there are many users who speak well of this camera. I am attracted to it because it is FF, has a 35mm lens a focal length I really like, and is so portable. I like the Fuji for much same reasons except I think there is better quality definition and resolution to be had from the Sony.
Which would you go for? Second hand Sony RX1r and associated risk and the fact it is quite an old model now or a brand new Fuji X100F?
Thanks in advance
p.194 #2 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
The Fuji X100F is for sure more "camera" and enjoayble to use than the RX1, but the latter at the end is not so terrible as many tell and its IQ wuold still smoke the Fuji's one by quite a margin.
p.194 #3 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
Can't beat the IQ and size advantage of the original RX1/R. It might not have the most accurate color rendering but the output is always amazing. I went from RX1R - A9 with various lenses and back to RX1R again - a fresh breath of air! Auto focus and operating speed is of course, night and day. But the IQ from that Sonnar lens and sensor combo...
p.194 #4 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
fatswaller48 wrote:
Which would you go for? Second hand Sony RX1r and associated risk and the fact it is quite an old model now or a brand new Fuji X100F?
Thanks in advance
For me anyday I pick the RX1R, as I prefer full frame vs APS-C
On top of that the "macro" ability... and that Carl Zeiss 35mm Sonnar is unbeatable
p.194 #6 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
Hi everyone, thank you very much for your replies. I secretly hoped you might recommend the Sony over the Fuji, I think the superior image quality of the Sony is worth enduring the awkwardness of its operation.
I have looked at past sales of the RX1R on ebay and no one mentions shutter count, not sure whether this is because it is difficult to gauge or because having a leaf shutter it is irrelevant.
What has worried me more is the last comment about possible dust spots- cleaning a sensor on a fixed lens camera is probably not easy and will be expensive. I'll be buying from ebay and I guess I will have to ask the seller to guarantee the camera has no dust. On the UK site there is a dealer selling an RX1R with a 6 warranty and a return policy within 30 days- no questions asked. This latter seller takes out the risk I think, but one or two private sellers are a bit cheaper and the cameras look to be in better condition- decisions!!
p.194 #7 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
AFAIK, there is no way to find the shutter count.
Dust spots, to the best of my knowledge, can be in lens (behind the foremost element) and does show up sharp as if it is on the sensor because of the lens construction when the lens is stopped all the way down.
It is best to use the camera with a filter on all the time. This helps to reduce the occurrence of dust spots.