p.41 #1 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
michaelwatkins wrote:
RX1 sample images from Sony - the first three appear to be stills, the remainder may be out takes from the promo video. All three shot at ISO 100.
The first three are from Sony website. They do look good, color rendition and lens drawing style, but can't really tell how sharp the lens is at infinity or how it performs in the corners.
p.41 #2 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
There may be a RX1 at a Sony event near to me on Saturday (the A99 will definitely be there). I hope to come back with a stolen image or two, or at least impressions of the physical handling and if the UI has become more workmanlike.
p.41 #5 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
michaelwatkins wrote:
RX1 sample images from Sony - the first three appear to be stills, the remainder may be out takes from the promo video. All three shot at ISO 100.
Oh come on WHen I see those rich color washed Japanese interiors with the gorgeous undergrowth falling through the windows.....well I feel like Robert Duvall sniffing the morning air on a Vietnamese surf beach.
Sniff sniif.....you see that? That gritty DOF? Those rich shawdows? Sniff Sniff.....smells like a ful frame
p.41 #8 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
What was the thing that attached to the camera at the end of the video, just before the viewfinder? Looked like it left some sort of lever sticking out the back of the camera?
p.41 #9 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
Jacob D wrote:
What was the thing that attached to the camera at the end of the video, just before the viewfinder? Looked like it left some sort of lever sticking out the back of the camera?
It's a thumbgrip that attaches to the hotshoe, which is popular with Leica, the X100, etc.
p.41 #10 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
douglasf13 wrote:
It's a thumbgrip that attaches to the hotshoe, which is popular with Leica, the X100, etc.
Indeed, it was developed for the m8 because people missed the winder lever on it like there was on the analoge leica's. The original ones are called thumbs up.
p.41 #11 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
ricardovaste wrote:
Still going back and forth on this. It would pair nicely with an 85ZA, right?
Absolutely!
Even though I'd have preferred a 28mm RX1, I could see myself toting around a 35mm RX1 and a fast 85mm RX2 or a fast 100mm makro-planar RX2.
It's long been my objective to reduce the number of, er, objective's in my bag and I'm seriously considering trimming to just two focal lengths, but I've been waiting for the much anticipated now not mythical full frame compact digital to arrive before making any radical changes. Going to have to wait a little longer.
p.41 #14 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
michaelwatkins wrote:
Absolutely!
Even though I'd have preferred a 28mm RX1, I could see myself toting around a 35mm RX1 and a fast 85mm RX2 or a fast 100mm makro-planar RX2.
It's long been my objective to reduce the number of, er, objective's in my bag and I'm seriously considering trimming to just two focal lengths, but I've been waiting for the much anticipated now not mythical full frame compact digital to arrive before making any radical changes. Going to have to wait a little longer.
Yeah, it's mostly just a focal length thing, for me. I tried to get used to 35mm (equiv.) with the NEX 24/1.8, then sold it, and I've been trying to get used to it again with the X100, but it just isn't natural for me. If the RX1 was 50mm-ish, I'd consider it seriously.
p.41 #16 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
I wonder if you'd find 35 on full frame a little easier to fit into your flow Douglas.
I think I would find it easier, mostly because of the change in depth of field. On a 1.5x crop camera like the NEX and GXR the ZM25/2.8 and I don't get along as well as we should; going to a 35/2 on a 35mm frame gives what, a 2 stop advantage in terms of depth of field control (?) and in the direction I want when shooting wide open. The ZM25 just doesn't give me that; the X100 was similar but at least was a stop faster so it worked a little better for me.
I don't think I want to buy three RX full frame series cameras let alone even one, but if I did, a 28/50/100 would probably be where I'd go. If only two, probably 35/85 more likely.
p.41 #18 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
michaelwatkins wrote:
I bet I'd see more moiré if that was shot with my 25/2.8 and GXR. Hmnn. going to check that out. Where's my wife when I need her!
Don't waste your time, I can confirm that. The ZM 25 is the king of moire on the GXR, even WO.
p.41 #19 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
michaelwatkins wrote:
I wonder if you'd find 35 on full frame a little easier to fit into your flow Douglas.
I think I would find it easier, mostly because of the change in depth of field. On a 1.5x crop camera like the NEX and GXR the ZM25/2.8 and I don't get along as well as we should; going to a 35/2 on a 35mm frame gives what, a 2 stop advantage in terms of depth of field control (?) and in the direction I want when shooting wide open. The ZM25 just doesn't give me that; the X100 was similar but at least was a stop faster so it worked a little better for me.
I don't think I want to buy three RX full frame series cameras let alone even one, but if I did, a 28/50/100 would probably be where I'd go. If only two, probably 35/85 more likely....Show more →
The DOF difference is a little over one stop. Either way, it isn't about subject isolation so much as framing. I find myself cropping with a 35mm (or equivalent) in just about every shot. I guess I just see in 50mm-ish. I could just crop to 50mm with the RX1, but then I'm basically shooting an 11mp aps-c camera, and it's too expensive for that.
Or I could take a step forward before every shot!
If the RX1 was in 50mm, I would really only need one camera. In the odd occasion that I'd need something else, there's always my NEX-7.
All of that being said, it does make sense to me that the RX1 is 35mm. I think that's probably the best, single focal length for most shooters.
p.41 #20 · Sony RX1 FF Mirrorless (Original 2012 thread)
Are we really contemplating a series of FF fixed lens RX bodies? I just can't see that happening. Whilst I didn't see a RX1 happening, it's at least similar in function to APS-C offerings, which are niche enough in themself. If they add a tele and WA either side of the RX1, I just can't see them selling enough...
BUT if we're entertaining that hypothetical situation... 35/85 would be perfect for me. Then for SWA anything around 18-21mm I think. But at that point, you really just want an interchangeable system, rather than 3 bodies!
WHen I see those rich color washed Japanese interiors with the gorgeous undergrowth falling through the windows.....well I feel like Robert Duvall sniffing the morning air on a Vietnamese surf beach.