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Daan B
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p.1 #1 · To D800 or not?


I have been shooting Canon for the last few years. Before that I used Nikon. I am using 5D2's atm.

Considering switching to a Nikon D800 set-up, instead of going for the 5D3 route. Mainly because the 5D3 still suffers from shadow banding.

I am wondering about Nikon's lenses though. I don't have any experience with their latest offerings.

Regarding IQ and functionality, what Nikon lenses would be the equivalents of the following Canon lenses:
- 24-105L
- 70-200L 2.8 IS mkII
- 85L II
- 35L



Apr 02, 2012 at 02:41 PM
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p.1 #2 · To D800 or not?


24-120 F4 VR
70-200 f2.8 VR II
85 f1.4 G
35 f1.4 G



Apr 02, 2012 at 02:47 PM
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p.1 #3 · To D800 or not?


no
i mean yes.



Apr 02, 2012 at 02:49 PM
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p.1 #4 · To D800 or not?


Thanks. Looked up their prices...

Maybe a 24-70 2.8 + 70-200 VR II combo is good enough for a start.



Apr 02, 2012 at 02:55 PM
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p.1 #5 · To D800 or not?


Dave_EP wrote:
24-120 F4 VR
70-200 f2.8 VR II
85 f1.4 G
35 f1.4 G



Same as above but a 24-70 instead of the 24-120 VR it is heavier like canon's 24-70 but way better then canons. I used to shoot canon as well and used the same lens you have and I would say nikon glass is better. If you like the 24 range nikon makes a really nice 24 f/1.4g which I would say is a little better then the 35 f/1.4g..



Apr 02, 2012 at 03:09 PM
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p.1 #6 · To D800 or not?


Have to know what you shoot and how large you print to give you truly intelligent advice

Loco



Apr 02, 2012 at 03:12 PM
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p.1 #7 · To D800 or not?


Have to know what you shoot and how large you print to give you truly intelligent advice

Loco



Apr 02, 2012 at 03:12 PM
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p.1 #8 · To D800 or not?


LocoPhoto wrote:
Have to know what you shoot and how large you print to give you truly intelligent advice

Loco


I mainly shoot portraits and commercial work. Both in the studio and on location. Prints for private clients usually start at 30x45cm. For business clients I want the output to be suitable for poster size material. I can get that with the 5D2 already. The extra MP's of the D800 are welcome though. Not sure how Nikon's current lenses will hold up on the D800.



Apr 02, 2012 at 03:21 PM
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p.1 #9 · To D800 or not?


Daan B wrote:
Not sure how Nikon's current lenses will hold up on the D800.


Just as well as Canon's current lenses hold on up on the 5D2.

Scott



Apr 02, 2012 at 03:24 PM
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p.1 #10 · To D800 or not?


I've had my D800 for a week and it is by a large margin the finest 35mm imaging device I could have ever imagined, much less have in my hands and actually use. I like my 5DM2, I love my Canon lenses, but there's just no comparison.


Apr 02, 2012 at 03:25 PM
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FYI - I chose the 24-70 and would do so every time, but the OP asked for the 24-105L equivalent. Technically there isn't one - but a 24-105+ @ F4 would be the 24-120 F4 VR.

The 24-70 2.8 G is superior to Canon's 24-70L and is on one of my bodies 90% of the time.



Apr 02, 2012 at 03:39 PM
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p.1 #12 · To D800 or not?


I say YES. Were you expecting a NO?

You are looking for affirmations and this is the right place.



Apr 02, 2012 at 03:44 PM
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p.1 #13 · To D800 or not?


snapsy wrote:
I like my 5DM2, I love my Canon lenses, but there's just no comparison.


"No comparison" in what respect(s)?



Apr 02, 2012 at 03:44 PM
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p.1 #14 · To D800 or not?


D. Diggler wrote:
"No comparison" in what respect(s)?


In terms of IQ, low ISO dynamic range/clean shadows, malleability of files in post esp shadows and colors, high iso noise/detail, high iso dynamic range when shot at base ISO and pushed.

In terms of features that are important to me, Nikon's flash metering, usable Auto ISO, zoomed RGB histogram (histogram changes based on whats visisble at zoom level), AF-linked spot meter, Fn button that can be configured for spot meter, stopped-down aperture for Live View without needing to press DOF preview (blessing and a curse).



Apr 02, 2012 at 03:59 PM
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p.1 #15 · To D800 or not?


stopped-down aperture for Live View without needing to press DOF preview (blessing and a curse).
I didn't know that. I'm hoping to get a D800 this week for a review. So, the aperture effect will show on Live View?



Apr 02, 2012 at 04:53 PM
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p.1 #16 · To D800 or not?


Fred Miranda wrote:
I didn't know that. I'm hoping to get a D800 this week for a review. So, the aperture effect will show on Live View?


Yep. It's good and bad. Good in that you're DOF is always previewed and you avoid focus shift errors. Bad that the preview will be grainy in low-light conditions. The D700/D7000 were the same but fortunately the D800 lets you change the aperture while in Live View whereas those bodies forced you to exit and re-enter for the aperture change to affect the preview (they lock the aperture for the entire Live View session).

A definite negative is the D800's interpolation for its Live View magnification: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=41042567



Apr 02, 2012 at 05:04 PM
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p.1 #17 · To D800 or not?


Daan B wrote:
Thanks. Looked up their prices...


Welcome to nikon



Apr 02, 2012 at 05:19 PM
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p.1 #18 · To D800 or not?


Daan, I wouldn't go the D800 route. Just too many irks with such a sensor. Massive investments in tripods. Only the highest quality glass able to deliver. If you believe the internet gossip it will be a hell of a ride. You shouldn't even consider it .....

I got mine just 10 days ago and I am still struggling to get a decent performance out of the camera.

Here are some of these attempts in full D800 size (ca. 20 MB each). Just converted from RAW to JPEG

Photo Model
Photo Helicopter
Photo Architecture
Photo Pelican

Welcome to the D800 camp
Andy




Apr 02, 2012 at 06:07 PM
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p.1 #19 · To D800 or not?


Consider the sig85 or nikon 85 f1.8G to reduce the budget hit? They are both great lenses (I am a fan of the sigma)


Apr 02, 2012 at 06:07 PM
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p.1 #20 · To D800 or not?


snapsy wrote:
Yep. It's good and bad. Good in that you're DOF is always previewed and you avoid focus shift errors. Bad that the preview will be grainy in low-light conditions. The D700/D7000 were the same but fortunately the D800 lets you change the aperture while in Live View whereas those bodies forced you to exit and re-enter for the aperture change to affect the preview (they lock the aperture for the entire Live View session).

A definite negative is the D800's interpolation for its Live View magnification: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=41042567


I knew about the interpolated "look" but hopefully we will be able to get critical focus regardless of how it looks.
The "always" displaying the aperture could be actually helpful when tilting PC-E lenses. Thanks for letting me know.



Apr 02, 2012 at 06:27 PM
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