snapsy wrote:
I've had my D800 for a week and it is by a large margin the finest 35mm imaging device I could have ever imagined, much less have in my hands and actually use. I like my 5DM2, I love my Canon lenses, but there's just no comparison.
AndreasE wrote:
Daan, I wouldn't go the D800 route. Just too many irks with such a sensor. Massive investments in tripods. Only the highest quality glass able to deliver. If you believe the internet gossip it will be a hell of a ride. You shouldn't even consider it .....
I got mine just 10 days ago and I am still struggling to get a decent performance out of the camera.
Here are some of these attempts in full D800 size (ca. 20 MB each). Just converted from RAW to JPEG
Andreas, those are terrible, especially the fact that I can see the sun about to go behind the clouds in the detail of the pelican's eye (Of course I'm just kidding) Wow, that is freakish the level of detail, thanks for sharing.
To the OP, been there... I got rid of all my Canon gear within about a year of switching to Nikon. Nikon's zoom glass is unparalleled, at least that was my experience, not sure if it was the lens or the body (D700, D3s) but I had so many more "keeper" shots after switching to Nikon and not just keeper, darn right phenomenal. I never knew what I was missing shooting Canon all those years.
I am also canon shooter. Searching for smooth shadows transition. I shoot landscape, portrait and graphic art. Which one D800 / D800E will help me better? beside 12-24mm i am also looking for 50/85 prime lenses, any comment would be helpful. TIA
snapsy wrote:
In terms of IQ, low ISO dynamic range/clean shadows, malleability of files in post esp shadows and colors, high iso noise/detail, high iso dynamic range when shot at base ISO and pushed.
That sounds good. Exactly what I need. How do the 5D2 and D800 compare for high ISO noise?
In terms of features that are important to me, Nikon's flash metering, usable Auto ISO, zoomed RGB histogram (histogram changes based on whats visisble at zoom level), AF-linked spot meter, Fn button that can be configured for spot meter, stopped-down aperture for Live View without needing to press DOF preview (blessing and a curse).
AndreasE wrote:
Daan, I wouldn't go the D800 route. Just too many irks with such a sensor. Massive investments in tripods. Only the highest quality glass able to deliver. If you believe the internet gossip it will be a hell of a ride. You shouldn't even consider it .....
I got mine just 10 days ago and I am still struggling to get a decent performance out of the camera.
Here are some of these attempts in full D800 size (ca. 20 MB each). Just converted from RAW to JPEG
mttran wrote:
I am also canon shooter. Searching for smooth shadows transition. I shoot landscape, portrait and graphic art. Which one D800 / D800E will help me better?
Good question. Anything known about the difference in output quality between the D800 and D800E? And how disciplined do you have to shoot in order to get the most out of the D800E?
Daan B wrote:
The quality of the files is simply amazing. What software did you use for the RAW conversion? Also, what lenses are you using?
RAW conversion done by Capture NX2. Please be aware, that I just converted the RAW files to JPEG. No postprocessing was done in these images except WB set to daylight in the last 3 photos.
All images handheld.
Lenses:
Model: AFS 70-200mm/2.8 VR II
Architecture & Helicopter & Pelican: AFS 300mm/2.8 VR II
Here is one more with the "el cheapo" AFS 85mm/1.8G.
Shot wide open, handheld Model #2
Daan B wrote:
I mainly shoot portraits and commercial work. Both in the studio and on location. Prints for private clients usually start at 30x45cm. For business clients I want the output to be suitable for poster size material. I can get that with the 5D2 already.
If you can get that with your 5D already, then why change? If your current set up fulfills your needs then surely changing should only be an option when the canon kit stops being able to fulfill your needs.
chris78cpr Daan B wrote:
LocoPhoto wrote:
Have to know what you shoot and how large you print to give you truly intelligent advice
Loco
I mainly shoot portraits and commercial work. Both in the studio and on location. Prints for private clients usually start at 30x45cm. For business clients I want the output to be suitable for poster size material. I can get that with the 5D2 already.
If you can get that with your 5D already, then why change? If your current set up fulfills your needs then surely changing should only be an option when the canon kit stops being able to fulfill your needs. ...Show more →
This one is an easy answer Chris, Because. The D800 will attract many a buyer just, Because.
chris78cpr wrote:
If you can get that with your 5D already, then why change? If your current set up fulfills your needs then surely changing should only be an option when the canon kit stops being able to fulfill your needs.
chris78cpr wrote:
If you can get that with your 5D already, then why change? If your current set up fulfills your needs then surely changing should only be an option when the canon kit stops being able to fulfill your needs.
It fulfills allright...
But:
- it would be nice to have cleaner shadows in RAW files
- it would be nice to have an AF that actually works (besides only the center point)
- more MP's may come in handy for commercial work / large output
Still thinking though, since Nikon lenses are expensive and hard to come by.
Daan B wrote:
I have been shooting Canon for the last few years. Before that I used Nikon. I am using 5D2's atm.
Considering switching to a Nikon D800 set-up, instead of going for the 5D3 route. Mainly because the 5D3 still suffers from shadow banding.
I am wondering about Nikon's lenses though. I don't have any experience with their latest offerings.
Regarding IQ and functionality, what Nikon lenses would be the equivalents of the following Canon lenses:
- 24-105L
- 70-200L 2.8 IS mkII
- 85L II
- 35L
Welcome back Daan
You can always try my 24-120/4.0 and/or 70-200/2.8 VRII.
I guess you still know where I live.
A couple of years ago we did a kind of shootout between Canon's and Nikon's 24-70/2.8 and the Nikon had the edge.
IMHO the new Nikon 24-120VRII is a little bit better than the 24-105L
There's pretty much distortion and vignetting on the wide end, but this can (automatically) be corrected in LR.
The 85L II is the best 85mm I used, but the Nikon one is pretty good.
I had the 35L in my Canon period and it was a very fine lens, I don't know about the Nikon 35
AndreasE wrote:
Daan, I wouldn't go the D800 route. Just too many irks with such a sensor. Massive investments in tripods. Only the highest quality glass able to deliver. If you believe the internet gossip it will be a hell of a ride. You shouldn't even consider it .....
I got mine just 10 days ago and I am still struggling to get a decent performance out of the camera.
Here are some of these attempts in full D800 size (ca. 20 MB each). Just converted from RAW to JPEG
