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Tim Ashton wrote:
Hey Andy
40 mg of the beta blocker, Sotalol hcl will fix your camera shake
Tim

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Tim,
I'll consider to take it next week, when the D800E arrives. Shall I take 60mg? There is no AA Filter which I need to compensate for.

What do you think?

Cheers,
Andy



Apr 04, 2012 at 06:19 AM
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p.3 #2 · To D800 or not?


Daan B wrote:
Hi Chris, did you miss me?

I might take you up on that

Are you planning on getting a D800?


Of course I missed you. You know, you're always welcome.

Yes I'm after one myself, I'm on several waiting lists.
At first I wanted to skip the D800; 36Mpx is too much, but I downloaded some files and looked at it and together with all the other refinements/improvements I'm sold now.
I'm creating funds by selling other gear.
You need a back-up body as well, I have a nice D700 + grip for sale. .



Apr 04, 2012 at 08:14 AM
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mttran wrote:
Hi All,

I am also canon shooter. Searching for smooth shadows transition. I shoot landscape, portrait and graphic art. Which one D800 / D800E will help me better? beside 12-24mm i am also looking for 50/85 prime lenses, any comment would be helpful. TIA

Michael


Nikon 12-24 is crop factor on D800 ...



Apr 06, 2012 at 12:12 AM
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Chris Dees wrote:
Of course I missed you. You know, you're always welcome.

Yes I'm after one myself, I'm on several waiting lists.
At first I wanted to skip the D800; 36Mpx is too much, but I downloaded some files and looked at it and together with all the other refinements/improvements I'm sold now.
I'm creating funds by selling other gear.
You need a back-up body as well, I have a nice D700 + grip for sale. .




Chris, is there any indication how long it will take before the D800 becomes available in the NL?

I would like to get my hands on one before I decide anything. Maybe at NPS?

Would be nice to get together again. Maybe you can teach me a few Nikon tricks



Apr 06, 2012 at 03:30 AM
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andy, you got some motion blur on that tail rotor. go back and shoot it properly this time.


Apr 06, 2012 at 05:19 AM
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Longgggg.
I'm nr 20 on the waiting list at my local dealer (who I happen to know for 15 years).
This month they get 2 bodies. They're trying to get more but I guess this would be one or two more.

NPS is doing regional tours where you can have a try with the D4/D800.
BTW the D4 is more or less easy to get (I know 3 places where they have at least one).



Apr 06, 2012 at 05:20 AM
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Chris Dees wrote:
Longgggg.
I'm nr 20 on the waiting list at my local dealer (who I happen to know for 15 years).
This month they get 2 bodies. They're trying to get more but I guess this would be one or two more.

NPS is doing regional tours where you can have a try with the D4/D800.
BTW the D4 is more or less easy to get (I know 3 places where they have at least one).


Bad news on the D800 availability



Apr 06, 2012 at 06:07 AM
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AndreasE wrote:
RAW conversion done by Capture NX2. Please be aware, that I just converted the RAW files to JPEG. No postprocessing was done in these images except WB set to daylight in the last 3 photos.

All images handheld.

Lenses:
Model: AFS 70-200mm/2.8 VR II
Architecture & Helicopter & Pelican: AFS 300mm/2.8 VR II

Here is one more with the "el cheapo" AFS 85mm/1.8G.
Shot wide open, handheld
Model #2

a nightshot at ISO 100 (70-200mm & tripod)

A candid shot with the AFS 70-200mm/2.8 VR II

I don't have the full size of this photo on the web.
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142291440/original.jpg

100% crop, unprocessed
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142291441/original.jpg

imho, the 70-200mm VR II is a stellar performer on
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Andreas,
So far I have not seen a single picture from any 35mm DSLR that can produce an image with quality like the one you have shown here no matter what those Canonites said they can do with their 1Ds3, 5D2 or even the latest 1Dx and 5D3.
Especially the one shown here with the title Model #2, the fine detail, resolution and DR from a distance that can show the little "Air Bubble" trapped under her contact lens. WOW!
I can even see the reflection from her right eye an average build guy wearing white short sleeve shirt with a dark color tie (or maybe a monopod/tripod) taking the picture in portriat mode with his right hand raise high up. WOW! WOW!

Now, for those who said that they don't need the 36MP resolution will have to think very hard now if they ever want to say that again.
And for digital noise for such a small pixel, the shot with the title "Nightshot" have proven them all wrong too.

Thanks! Andreas for sharing

Rgds,
Hans



Apr 06, 2012 at 07:33 AM
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Chris Dees wrote:
Longgggg.
I'm nr 20 on the waiting list at my local dealer (who I happen to know for 15 years).
This month they get 2 bodies. They're trying to get more but I guess this would be one or two more.


I just read at the KE site that the expected sale date is 12 april. Since they are a big reseller, maybe they'll get more than 2 bodies.



Apr 06, 2012 at 02:36 PM
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p.3 #10 · To D800 or not?


Dean,

Put the 14-24 on your wish list. Great lens with no Canon equivalent. Zeiss 100 MP 2.0 is another great lens if you don't mind manual focus. It is also a macro lens, though Nikon's 105 macro is very good.



Apr 06, 2012 at 05:50 PM
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p.3 #11 · To D800 or not?


hans98ko wrote:
[Andreas,
So far I have not seen a single picture from any 35mm DSLR that can produce an image with quality like the one you have shown here no matter what those Canonites said they can do with their 1Ds3, 5D2 or even the latest 1Dx and 5D3.
Especially the one shown here with the title Model #2, the fine detail, resolution and DR from a distance that can show the little "Air Bubble" trapped under her contact lens. WOW!
I can even see the reflection from her right eye an average build guy wearing white short sleeve shirt with a dark color
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Hans,
you are right - the resolution of the D800 is its most fascinating attribute. BTW, the D800 is no slouch in ISO 3200 and ISO 6400 situations.

Let me show you some more examples

This was taken with the AFS 28-300mm superzoom at 28mm. Gitzo Traveller Tripod
Full size D800
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142426869/original.jpg

With AFS 50mm/1.8G, taken from the car during a red traffic light, handheld
Full size D800
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142471407/original.jpg


It competes also with my D4 in ISO 3200 environments

The scene in Vienna
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142500276/original.jpg

100% crop of the D4
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142519432/original.jpg

crop of the D800, resized to D4 size
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/142519433/original.jpg


Enjoy,
Andy



Apr 07, 2012 at 06:36 PM
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@Andy
Sure is nice to know that the D800 is performing just as well as the D4 in low light when considering the difference in pixel size and light gethering capabilities.

But I am still more impress with the Model #2 shot because it was taken with very little lighting base from what I saw from the reflection off the model's eye (it look as if it was only lit with a softbox) and the next thing is that the focus was not exactly on the model's iris but more towards the forehead or the bridge of her nose because the eye lashes were not exactly sharp due to the shallow DOF, but still it has the resolution to reproduce enough detail on the air bubble as well as the photographer in her eye.
Normally, for a camera that does not have that kind of resolution the air bubble would not be obvious and the image of the photographer would have been pixelated or glob if not for the high resolution and the dynamic range to reproduce it even if it was slightly OOF due to the shallow DOF.
And by the way was that a tie, a tripod or a monopod that I saw from the reflection?

Really envy you guys with that kind of blue sky in Austria as well as in mid US where I spent many years there. Over here we might only get it for a couple of days and still it is not as dry, clear and deep blue.

Hans



Apr 08, 2012 at 08:49 AM
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Quotes: I like my 5DM2, I love my Canon lenses, but there's just no comparison.
"No comparison" in what respect(s)?"

Answer: They don't produce banding even when you underexpose by 10 stops javascript:void(0);

Sorry, I could't resist reading these posts.
I recommend reading the Hammeruserforum.com on the lensrentals.com which has captured the spirit and intellectual depth of most "discussions" on many forums : -)



Apr 08, 2012 at 10:02 AM
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I have to say...if Nikon equipment wasn't so hard to come by, I'd probably have placed my order for a D800 and one lens already.


Apr 08, 2012 at 10:09 AM
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I wonder if the reported focus issue will slow demand, probably not new maybe resales?

Interesting how the tables have turned,
Nikon now with the leading sensor and having reports of Canon like focus issues.

Key to be sure to get a valid warranty if buying from this early batch.



Apr 08, 2012 at 10:23 AM
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JackCnd wrote:
I wonder if the reported focus issue will slow demand, probably not new maybe resales?

Interesting how the tables have turned,
Nikon now with the leading sensor and having reports of Canon like focus issues.

Key to be sure to get a valid warranty if buying from this early batch.


What focus issue are you talking about?
I hope is not about what I am talking about large aperture opening due to low light and thus having shallow DOF.



Apr 08, 2012 at 12:01 PM
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JackCnd wrote:
I wonder if the reported focus issue will slow demand, probably not new maybe resales?

Interesting how the tables have turned,
Nikon now with the leading sensor and having reports of Canon like focus issues.

Key to be sure to get a valid warranty if buying from this early batch.

Funny guy.
Because there's someone in the world having a problem with AF there's a worldwide issue with the D800?



Apr 08, 2012 at 12:51 PM
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Chris Dees wrote:
Because there's someone in the world having a problem with AF there's a worldwide issue with the D800?


That's the "benefit" of living in the internet forum world and the blogosphere
Andy



Apr 08, 2012 at 01:01 PM
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Type d800 focus issue in google ....

The side focus points back focus with wide apertures 2.8 and under is the issue reported.








Apr 08, 2012 at 01:01 PM
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AndreasE wrote:
That's the "benefit" of living in the internet forum world and the blogosphere
Andy


There does seem to be a real issue with lock-ups based upon many user reports that I've seen.



Apr 08, 2012 at 04:07 PM
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