goomadeer wrote:
I respectfully disagree - the OP has posted 100% crops of these images also. The images as a whole might obtainable with other good (and older) cameras but not the level of detailed shown in the crops - they are awesome.
Sorry to disturb you, but the "100% crops" here are not true 100% crops (Except Roger's). The OP needs to clarify. By 100% crops we normally mean unscaled pixels cropped out of a full resolution image. These are clearly not that. If we relate the image dimensions and pixel dimensions of the full images and crops, the math doesn't add up. The "100% crops" also are more detailed than is physically possible from a bayer sensor.
Sorry to disturb you, but the "100% crops" here are not true 100% crops (Except Roger's). The OP needs to clarify. By 100% crops we normally mean unscaled pixels cropped out of a full resolution image. These are clearly not that. If we relate the image dimensions and pixel dimensions of the full images and crops, the math doesn't add up. The "100% crops" also are more detailed than is physically possible from a bayer sensor.
Don't worry I was already disturbed
I take your point - but they are substantial crops showing beautiful detail and are therefore still meaningful. You can see they're from a fairly small part of the original image and they are still demonstrating how awesome this new D800 is.
I cropped to show the potential or ability of creating an image within an image with the 36MP sensor....if you want to get technical then YES, I didn't zoom in to the pixel level. I should have disclosed that, thats why I posted the original full frame image as comparison.
As far as technique - I really don't have any. I was shooting in mixd lighting and set the AUTO ISO to err on the "faster" side of things in regards to SS - you have the option to choose slow 2 slow 1 neutral fast 1 fast 2 for AUTO ISO AUTO min shutter speed.
Most were above 1/100th - apertures were all over the place were as well. but nothing over f/6. Most were at f/4 of f/5.6
I am about ready to go out and shoot some more - ill hopefully post another batch tonight...
thanks again all for looking, and I am excited to realize this camera will be in many of your hands soon and I look forward to seeing with you can do with it
As a Canon shooting that is be pulled hourly toward the right side (but trying to hold off till September to see if Canon responds with anything but I just dont see it happening--not with all the features of the D800) I thank you for these shots.
OP
could you be more specific about the shutter speed?
what shutter speed do you think it is needed to get sharp pictures?
what was the shutter on your shots?
Well I shot mostly in Aperture priority and set the AUTO ISO to choose the shutter speed based on FL but err on the faster side - meaning to use a slightly higher ISO in order to keep the SS higher...
From a numbers perspective they ranged from 1/80th - 1/400th in most cases...all handheld shooting from 24mm-200mm with two 2.8 zoom lenses. I shot between f/2.8 - f/8, most at f/5.6
kobewankenobi wrote:
OP
could you be more specific about the shutter speed?
what shutter speed do you think it is needed to get sharp pictures?
what was the shutter on your shots?
thanks
matteo
I have to use exactly the same shutter speed at the D800 as with the APS D7000 when I use the 85AFS. No difference, and there should be no difference of course.
But I'd like to put it another way:
Below ISO6400 I can use higher ISOs on the D800 than on the D700, and hence get shorter shutter speeds. It's actually EASIER to get sharp shots with the D800 than with the D700, when looking at ~6-8MP tiff outputs.
ctipton wrote:
Lovely pictures! Some of the nicest examples from the D800 I've seen so far (but I'm partial since dogs are my favorite subject to shoot). Now if I can just contain my impatience as I wait for my pre-order to be filled.
I could have written this! Totally agree - waiting for the E version, which will hopefully arrive in April.
domdog31 wrote:
I cropped to show the potential or ability of creating an image within an image with the 36MP sensor....if you want to get technical then YES, I didn't zoom in to the pixel level. I should have disclosed that, thats why I posted the original full frame image as comparison.
Thanks for the clarification. It is important information, especially when you explicitly write "100% crops". Not everybody checks what we actually see. You see, in this thread there are members who still believe those are pixel level crops, even after the clarification.
Apologies in advance for the cross-post, but what I'd really like to see is an image shot to expose for highlights, and then pushed in LR or ACR to bump the exposure up and see what the noise looks like in the shadows.
Unlike the prior generation of Canon sensors, the D3s does magnificently with these situations, but the question of whether the D800 can stand the same is as yet unresolved.
Any chance an early D800 owner can post some images at various ISO's to show the shadows after a 1 stop push?
davidrwilliams wrote:
Apologies in advance for the cross-post, but what I'd really like to see is an image shot to expose for highlights, and then pushed in LR or ACR to bump the exposure up and see what the noise looks like in the shadows.
Unlike the prior generation of Canon sensors, the D3s does magnificently with these situations, but the question of whether the D800 can stand the same is as yet unresolved.
Any chance an early D800 owner can post some images at various ISO's to show the shadows after a 1 stop push?
The d800 has better SNR curves and great DR. It will do better than the D3s at low iso.
