Archive 2012 · D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
p.3 #3D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
goomadeer wrote:
Apart from the eleventy billion ISO shots, I wouldn't be able to tell if the photos were shot with a Rebel XSi, D3, 50D, d700, 1d...
Sorry OP, this is not meant to insult you. It's just the whole insane-ness of it all with the hoopla around the 5d3, 1dx, d800 and d4. So far all the images posted are no more special than by other cameras. I saw pretty pictures shot with the old 5d and D7000 threads too.
Plainly put with the web sized images, I just can't tell whether these cameras are producing better images than its predecessors.
I respectfully disagree - the OP has posted 100% crops of these images also. The images as a whole might obtainable with other good (and older) cameras but not the level of detailed shown in the crops - they are awesome.
Sorry to disturb you, but the "100% crops" here are not true 100% crops (Except Roger's). The OP needs to clarify. By 100% crops we normally mean unscaled pixels cropped out of a full resolution image. These are clearly not that. If we relate the image dimensions and pixel dimensions of the full images and crops, the math doesn't add up. The "100% crops" also are more detailed than is physically possible from a bayer sensor.
M Lucca wrote
Since I posted something similar over in Canon land, I might as well post here...Apart from the eleventy billion ISO shots, I wouldn't be able to tell if the photos were shot with a Rebel XSi, D3, 50D, d700, 1d...
Sorry OP, this is not meant to insult you. It's just the whole insane-ness of it all with the hoopla around the 5d3, 1dx, d800 and d4. So far all the images posted are no more special than by other cameras. I saw pretty pictures shot with the old 5d and D7000 threads too.
Plainly put with the web sized images, I just can't tell whether these cameras are producing better images than its predecessors.
Sorry to disturb you, but the "100% crops" here are not true 100% crops (Except Roger's). The OP needs to clarify. By 100% crops we normally mean unscaled pixels cropped out of a full resolution image. These are clearly not that. If we relate the image dimensions and pixel dimensions of the full images and crops, the math doesn't add up. The "100% crops" also are more detailed than is physically possible from a bayer sensor.
Mar 24, 2012 at 02:57 AM
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p.3 #4D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
Nice photos! The D800- files looks great. For a second now you made me regret that I bought some new lenses instead of upgrading my D3.....:-).
Can you support us with 100% crops of high iso shots (3200 and higher)?
Can you support us with 100% crops of high iso shots (3200 and higher)?
Mar 24, 2012 at 03:37 AM
p.3 #5D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
alundeb wrote:
Sorry to disturb you, but the "100% crops" here are not true 100% crops (Except Roger's). The OP needs to clarify. By 100% crops we normally mean unscaled pixels cropped out of a full resolution image. These are clearly not that. If we relate the image dimensions and pixel dimensions of the full images and crops, the math doesn't add up. The "100% crops" also are more detailed than is physically possible from a bayer sensor.
Don't worry I was already disturbed
I take your point - but they are substantial crops showing beautiful detail and are therefore still meaningful. You can see they're from a fairly small part of the original image and they are still demonstrating how awesome this new D800 is.
Sorry to disturb you, but the "100% crops" here are not true 100% crops (Except Roger's). The OP needs to clarify. By 100% crops we normally mean unscaled pixels cropped out of a full resolution image. These are clearly not that. If we relate the image dimensions and pixel dimensions of the full images and crops, the math doesn't add up. The "100% crops" also are more detailed than is physically possible from a bayer sensor.
Don't worry I was already disturbed
I take your point - but they are substantial crops showing beautiful detail and are therefore still meaningful. You can see they're from a fairly small part of the original image and they are still demonstrating how awesome this new D800 is.
Mar 24, 2012 at 03:43 AM
p.3 #6D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
alundeb wrote:
Sorry to disturb you, but the "100% crops" here are not true 100% crops (Except Roger's)
You beat me to it.
I'm not complaining or anything, but these are NOT 100% crops... not anywhere near it.
For example, #6 (with the lovely dog) is like looking at a 6 megapixel file on screen in PS at 100%.
Just sayin'...
Sorry to disturb you, but the "100% crops" here are not true 100% crops (Except Roger's)
You beat me to it.
I'm not complaining or anything, but these are NOT 100% crops... not anywhere near it.
For example, #6 (with the lovely dog) is like looking at a 6 megapixel file on screen in PS at 100%.
Just sayin'...
Mar 24, 2012 at 05:42 AM
p.3 #7D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
I cropped to show the potential or ability of creating an image within an image with the 36MP sensor....if you want to get technical then YES, I didn't zoom in to the pixel level. I should have disclosed that, thats why I posted the original full frame image as comparison.
As far as technique - I really don't have any. I was shooting in mixd lighting and set the AUTO ISO to err on the "faster" side of things in regards to SS - you have the option to choose slow 2 slow 1 neutral fast 1 fast 2 for AUTO ISO AUTO min shutter speed.
Most were above 1/100th - apertures were all over the place were as well. but nothing over f/6. Most were at f/4 of f/5.6
I am about ready to go out and shoot some more - ill hopefully post another batch tonight...
thanks again all for looking, and I am excited to realize this camera will be in many of your hands soon and I look forward to seeing with you can do with it
As far as technique - I really don't have any. I was shooting in mixd lighting and set the AUTO ISO to err on the "faster" side of things in regards to SS - you have the option to choose slow 2 slow 1 neutral fast 1 fast 2 for AUTO ISO AUTO min shutter speed.
Most were above 1/100th - apertures were all over the place were as well. but nothing over f/6. Most were at f/4 of f/5.6
I am about ready to go out and shoot some more - ill hopefully post another batch tonight...
thanks again all for looking, and I am excited to realize this camera will be in many of your hands soon and I look forward to seeing with you can do with it
Mar 24, 2012 at 06:14 AM
p.3 #8D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
As a Canon shooting that is be pulled hourly toward the right side (but trying to hold off till September to see if Canon responds with anything but I just dont see it happening--not with all the features of the D800) I thank you for these shots.
Mar 24, 2012 at 06:38 AM
p.3 #9D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
when I see the D800 can do this it makes me even happier that I had an early order in for my 800E,,
I'll just enjoy all the post of the 800 for now,,
Derry
I'll just enjoy all the post of the 800 for now,,
Derry
Mar 24, 2012 at 07:06 AM
p.3 #10D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
sorry but you clearly have no clue what you are talking about, or you are just a canon fanboy
the images he posted CLEARLY show (the 100% crop) a level of detail that is astonishing, and that no other camera (that is not a MF) has had before
wow now i m really impressed
the images he posted CLEARLY show (the 100% crop) a level of detail that is astonishing, and that no other camera (that is not a MF) has had before
wow now i m really impressed
Mar 24, 2012 at 08:10 AM
p.3 #11D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
OP
could you be more specific about the shutter speed?
what shutter speed do you think it is needed to get sharp pictures?
what was the shutter on your shots?
thanks
matteo
could you be more specific about the shutter speed?
what shutter speed do you think it is needed to get sharp pictures?
what was the shutter on your shots?
thanks
matteo
Mar 24, 2012 at 08:15 AM
p.3 #12D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
Well I shot mostly in Aperture priority and set the AUTO ISO to choose the shutter speed based on FL but err on the faster side - meaning to use a slightly higher ISO in order to keep the SS higher...
From a numbers perspective they ranged from 1/80th - 1/400th in most cases...all handheld shooting from 24mm-200mm with two 2.8 zoom lenses. I shot between f/2.8 - f/8, most at f/5.6
From a numbers perspective they ranged from 1/80th - 1/400th in most cases...all handheld shooting from 24mm-200mm with two 2.8 zoom lenses. I shot between f/2.8 - f/8, most at f/5.6
Mar 24, 2012 at 08:19 AM
p.3 #13D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
Looks like your dog had quite a fun day for himself! Great shots of him/her. It appears as though this is another camera that will not let you down!
Mar 24, 2012 at 08:31 AM
p.3 #14D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
kobewankenobi wrote:
OP
could you be more specific about the shutter speed?
what shutter speed do you think it is needed to get sharp pictures?
what was the shutter on your shots?
thanks
matteo
I have to use exactly the same shutter speed at the D800 as with the APS D7000 when I use the 85AFS. No difference, and there should be no difference of course.
But I'd like to put it another way:
Below ISO6400 I can use higher ISOs on the D800 than on the D700, and hence get shorter shutter speeds. It's actually EASIER to get sharp shots with the D800 than with the D700, when looking at ~6-8MP tiff outputs.
OP
could you be more specific about the shutter speed?
what shutter speed do you think it is needed to get sharp pictures?
what was the shutter on your shots?
thanks
matteo
I have to use exactly the same shutter speed at the D800 as with the APS D7000 when I use the 85AFS. No difference, and there should be no difference of course.
But I'd like to put it another way:
Below ISO6400 I can use higher ISOs on the D800 than on the D700, and hence get shorter shutter speeds. It's actually EASIER to get sharp shots with the D800 than with the D700, when looking at ~6-8MP tiff outputs.
Mar 24, 2012 at 08:46 AM
p.3 #15D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
ctipton wrote:
Lovely pictures! Some of the nicest examples from the D800 I've seen so far (but I'm partial since dogs are my favorite subject to shoot). Now if I can just contain my impatience as I wait for my pre-order to be filled.
I could have written this! Totally agree - waiting for the E version, which will hopefully arrive in April.
Lovely pictures! Some of the nicest examples from the D800 I've seen so far (but I'm partial since dogs are my favorite subject to shoot). Now if I can just contain my impatience as I wait for my pre-order to be filled.
I could have written this! Totally agree - waiting for the E version, which will hopefully arrive in April.
Mar 24, 2012 at 09:46 AM
p.3 #16D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
domdog31 wrote:
I cropped to show the potential or ability of creating an image within an image with the 36MP sensor....if you want to get technical then YES, I didn't zoom in to the pixel level. I should have disclosed that, thats why I posted the original full frame image as comparison.
Thanks for the clarification. It is important information, especially when you explicitly write "100% crops". Not everybody checks what we actually see. You see, in this thread there are members who still believe those are pixel level crops, even after the clarification.
I cropped to show the potential or ability of creating an image within an image with the 36MP sensor....if you want to get technical then YES, I didn't zoom in to the pixel level. I should have disclosed that, thats why I posted the original full frame image as comparison.
Thanks for the clarification. It is important information, especially when you explicitly write "100% crops". Not everybody checks what we actually see. You see, in this thread there are members who still believe those are pixel level crops, even after the clarification.
Mar 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM
p.3 #17D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
Apologies in advance for the cross-post, but what I'd really like to see is an image shot to expose for highlights, and then pushed in LR or ACR to bump the exposure up and see what the noise looks like in the shadows.
Unlike the prior generation of Canon sensors, the D3s does magnificently with these situations, but the question of whether the D800 can stand the same is as yet unresolved.
Any chance an early D800 owner can post some images at various ISO's to show the shadows after a 1 stop push?
Unlike the prior generation of Canon sensors, the D3s does magnificently with these situations, but the question of whether the D800 can stand the same is as yet unresolved.
Any chance an early D800 owner can post some images at various ISO's to show the shadows after a 1 stop push?
Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27 PM
p.3 #18D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
davidrwilliams wrote:
Apologies in advance for the cross-post, but what I'd really like to see is an image shot to expose for highlights, and then pushed in LR or ACR to bump the exposure up and see what the noise looks like in the shadows.
Unlike the prior generation of Canon sensors, the D3s does magnificently with these situations, but the question of whether the D800 can stand the same is as yet unresolved.
Any chance an early D800 owner can post some images at various ISO's to show the shadows after a 1 stop push?
The d800 has better SNR curves and great DR. It will do better than the D3s at low iso.
Apologies in advance for the cross-post, but what I'd really like to see is an image shot to expose for highlights, and then pushed in LR or ACR to bump the exposure up and see what the noise looks like in the shadows.
Unlike the prior generation of Canon sensors, the D3s does magnificently with these situations, but the question of whether the D800 can stand the same is as yet unresolved.
Any chance an early D800 owner can post some images at various ISO's to show the shadows after a 1 stop push?
The d800 has better SNR curves and great DR. It will do better than the D3s at low iso.
Mar 24, 2012 at 01:35 PM
p.3 #19D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
Read your post and went out and picked up a D800 this morning...I'm amazed by the detail.
Mar 24, 2012 at 01:46 PM
p.3 #20D800 REAL WORLD review and samples
Who pulled the bathtub plug in #7?
Mar 24, 2012 at 06:25 PM