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p.3 #1 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


Maybe, finally this is the one I want. I had high hopes for the NEX-7 but now that I've used it I'm not as impressed with the images as I thought I would be. Looking at the posted images of the Fuji, I'm really impressed.


Mar 12, 2012 at 06:03 PM
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p.3 #2 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


biggs55 wrote:
Looks like it will take nikon lenses with an adapter.


Have you got any info or a web link you can share to support this? If this is true the X-Pro1 will move right to the top of my wish list!



Mar 12, 2012 at 06:05 PM
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p.3 #3 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


EB-1 wrote:
Does it have a Nikon lens mount?

EBH



not yet, but I am willing to bet some 3rd party will come out with one.

Just like the NEX system, im sure there will be nicer and cheaper options.



Mar 12, 2012 at 06:24 PM
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p.3 #4 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


I really enjoy my Fuji X100. The image quality, file size, colors. The size of the camera is perfect for a small walk around and the focal length is good for what I shoot. My only comment with the X-pro 1 and cameras like the Nex 7 is that once you start putting on adapters and bigger lenses it eliminates the size advantage of a smaller system. You might as well just shoot with a DSLR at that point.

Jack



Mar 12, 2012 at 06:27 PM
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p.3 #5 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


Heres a link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Kipon-Adapter-for-NIkon-F-lens-to-Fujifilm-X-PRO1-camera-EXPRESS-MAIL-/280842283697?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4163812ab1

it makes the lens stick out though, but if you can use all your nikon lenses thats a plus.

Edited on Mar 12, 2012 at 06:33 PM · View previous versions



Mar 12, 2012 at 06:31 PM
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p.3 #6 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


allstarimaging wrote:
I really enjoy my Fuji X100. The image quality, file size, colors. The size of the camera is perfect for a small walk around and the focal length is good for what I shoot. My only comment with the X-pro 1 and cameras like the Nex 7 is that once you start putting on adapters and bigger lenses it eliminates the size advantage of a smaller system. You might as well just shoot with a DSLR at that point.

Jack



Which is exactly why I'm holding onto my X100. The camera is deadly silent and will not alert others when I'm doing street photography.



Mar 12, 2012 at 06:32 PM
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p.3 #7 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


The camera might be awesome, we just don't know that yet.

However people are literally peeing their pants wanting it so bad I am not sure they can have a cool head about it - with that I mean seeing past the hype, before deciding to part with the cash. I wish they would.

I also _wish_ the X-Pro 1 is as good as it seems. I just don't assume it is.

Keep it cool, let people buy a few and try them out, maybe there are a couple of lemons in the first run so I'd keep it cool and wait a while. Prices might even drop a few hundred $ in the process. Until then, work with what you have.

I am seasoned enough to investigate the shortcomings first, and make sure they are not of the kind that makes the camera a no go for me, no matter how appealing it might look apart from the shortcomings.
Most people just go blind, deaf and dumb as soon as the next big thing arrives.

Maybe one day the "near perfect" camera will come, I am already sure the X Pro 1 isn't it. Just as I was sure the NEX7 wasn't it either. The X Pro 1 might be awesome, but not awesome enough to replace my current gear. I will pass on this generation and wait and see what the follow up from Fuji will be. I am in no rush though.




Mar 13, 2012 at 02:00 PM
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p.3 #8 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


Wise words there, Kosmoskatten.

I have seen some extremely good images, in terms of quality, produced by the X1-Pro and I have seen some that are truly awful, with the focus missed by some margin. Of course, those could be down to the photographer, although some of the reviews say that focusing with the OVF is not as easy as with the EVF.

The less than stellar AF seems to be downplayed by most of the reviews, as does the aperture-blade chatter.

The 18mm and 35mm lenses also seem to produce what I consider to be extremely ugly bokeh when shot wide open, with an inordinate amount of purple fringing.

Another concern is the comment made in the WhatDigitalCamera review, which stated that the black paint was starting to come off after only two days of use. That does not augur well in terms of build quality in my book.

My interest in this camera when it was first announced has faded considerably in the past couple of weeks as more people have had hands-on experience with the X1-Pro. Like many of us who are growing older, I was looking for a less bulky option to a DSLR but have come to realize that at heart I am and always will be a DSLR/SLR man.



Mar 14, 2012 at 01:14 AM
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p.3 #9 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


thedigitalbean wrote:
The leaked roadmap (which Fuji later said was accurate) includes:

2012:
14mm f/2.8
18-72mm f/4.0 with Image Stabilization

2013:
28mm f/2.8 pancake
23mm f/2.0
72-200mm f/4.0 Image Stabilization
12-24mm f/4.0 Image Stabilization


Thanks for that. The 14m f/2.8 and 12-24mm UWA are intriguing to me. Might be enough to convince me to think about this camera as a replacement for µ4/3d.

Arka C.



Mar 14, 2012 at 03:22 AM
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p.3 #10 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


Lloyd Chambers has something interesting to say about the X-Pro1's sensor cover glass:

link to his blog



Mar 14, 2012 at 03:38 AM
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douglasf13 wrote:
Lloyd Chambers has something interesting to say about the X-Pro1's sensor cover glass:

link to his blog


2.5mm glass cover

That is completely absurd. I wonder how thick the glass cover on the M9 is...



Mar 14, 2012 at 03:44 AM
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p.3 #12 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


edwardkaraa wrote:
2.5mm glass cover

That is completely absurd. I wonder how thick the glass cover on the M9 is...


Yeah, I have no idea. This sounds like a good question for Joakim.



Mar 14, 2012 at 04:45 AM
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p.3 #13 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


M9 cover glass is 0.8mm IIRC


Mar 14, 2012 at 07:52 AM
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p.3 #14 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


Sony Nex5N forever! Right douglasf13?


Mar 14, 2012 at 07:54 AM
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p.3 #15 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


vovkinson wrote:
Sony Nex5N forever! Right douglasf13?


What's the point of this post?



Mar 14, 2012 at 07:55 AM
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p.3 #16 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


X-Pro1 shots from a working photographer at last. Scroll down to Dubai :: Day 06 and start from there.




Mar 14, 2012 at 08:14 AM
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p.3 #17 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


This photographer has the M mount adapter for the XP1 and has posted a shot with the CV12. I asked him to try some additional shots at farther distances where edge color shift and sharpness will be more problematic than at near minimum focusing distance. He indicated he also has the CV15 and will give it a try...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kinson12/6829096888



Mar 14, 2012 at 08:23 AM
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p.3 #18 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


douglasf13 wrote:
Lloyd Chambers has something interesting to say about the X-Pro1's sensor cover glass:

link to his blog


Interesting but I wonder if Lloyd's conclusions are logical given that the NEX-7 he uses as the basis for his reasoning also has an AA filter whereas the X-Pro1 does not. I thought it was the AA filter, not the cover glass, which causes the issue?

From Lloyd's blog:

"But wait— there is a fly in my soup. I have since learned that the Fuji X-Pro1 has a 2.5mm thick sensor cover glass (same as the Sony NEX-7). My testing of wide angle rangefinder lenses on the Sony NEX-7 shows that ray angle issues with sensor cover glass result in color shading and degraded sharpness off-center (badly degraded with some lenses, tolerable with others).

In short, wide angle Leica M and Zeiss ZM lenses are unlikely to perform to their potential on the Fuji X-Pro1."



Mar 14, 2012 at 08:56 AM
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rscheffler wrote:
This photographer has the M mount adapter for the XP1 and has posted a shot with the CV12. I asked him to try some additional shots at farther distances where edge color shift and sharpness will be more problematic than at near minimum focusing distance. He indicated he also has the CV15 and will give it a try...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kinson12/6829096888


Ron, any updates about MF ability on the X-PRO1? I hear that is has an EVF but dont no the rest. Thanks



Mar 14, 2012 at 09:06 AM
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p.3 #20 · X-Pro1! Am I the only one...


Zeiss paper: From the series of articles on lens names: Distagon, Biogon and Hologon (pdf link)

Lenses with a very large beam tilt react in a much more sensitive manner to a change of refractive index in the image space caused by filter plates in front of the sensor (such as low pass and IR-blocking filters). If the filter plate is not considered in the design of the lens, the edge definition will suffer. The effect of the additional path through the glass grows exponentially with the beam inclination. A Distagon which never achieves more than 20° beam tilt in the corner of the image reacts more tolerantly than a symmetrical wide- angle lens, which might reach a 45° tilt. This is why filters in digital Leicas are very thin – to remain compatible with older optics. If the filter is significantly thicker, the contrast transfer for the image edge becomes worse for tangential structures.



Mar 14, 2012 at 09:09 AM
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