Ralph Conway wrote:
It always was a choice of technical restrictions. Those do not longer exist. I would bet, in 5 years a "3000" and any XXX or XXs are FF, too.
No, not at all. There will always be demand for a smaller lighter camera. Even if FF is cheap, 1.6x is much cheaper and can be made smaller. Most people aren't hung about FF and would care less.
YES. Fully behind your opinion M Vers. It was done to feed the forums. No stupid company can be that stupid to leak that new body (it never concerned the lenses) in that way.
RobDickinson wrote:
Theres no point in the 7d2 being 1.3 crop.
What does that mean? I know it won't happen, but I see plenty of point for a 1.3x crop 7D II. They wouldn't change format and leave model name the same, so it wouldn't be a 7D II, but there's still a point.
Pixel Perfect wrote:
No, not at all. There will always be demand for a smaller lighter camera. Even if FF is cheap, 1.6x is much cheaper and can be made smaller. Most people aren't hung about FF and would care less.
I know really many people using crop bodys. I would say 95% of them dream about FF.
And I was not talking about what users want. Crop was NOT done because photographers asked for it. It was done because manufacturers where not able to do better.
There is a crop fangroup today. Yes. It will be extinct when FF at 100 MP and lowest noise at high Iso will be standard. This will be before the end of this decade.
M Vers wrote:
And you think a safari open to non-Canon employees is an ideal choice? There are plenty of other places Canon can choose where there is zero chance of being 'caught'...unless, of course, they wanted to be. My point is Canon doesn't use those ridiculous black boxes for nothing and they sure as hell wouldn't risk an unreleased, unannounced product to be seen by anyone outside 'the know' if they didn't want to. A 'mistake' like this doesn't just happen--it's designed to happen.
Yup, like I mentioned earlier, it is a "deliberate and controlled" leak. The question is not only the name (I care less about the name) but more importantly, when the official announcement will take place and even more important than that is, when the new camera will be available .
Ralph Conway wrote:
I know really many people using crop bodys. I would say 95% of them dream about FF.
And I was not talking about what users want. Crop was NOT done because photographers asked for it. It was done because manufacturers where not able to do better.
There is a crop fangroup today. Yes. It will be extinct when FF at 100 MP and lowest noise at high Iso will be standard. This will be before the end of this decade.
You are kidding 95%! Not sure what sort of crop users you know, but none of the ones I know care about that and many don't see the point of FF. Sure some would like a 5D II, but when you can get a 600D kit for $700 and the 5D II kit is $2500+ they aren't deciding for long which way to go.
I also disagree with your premise crop only exists because it was cheaper.
AGeoJO wrote:
The question is not only the name (I care less about the name) but more importantly, when the official announcement will take place and even more important than that is, when the new camera will be available .
I'm with you on that, Joshua...but then again I'm trying not to get my hopes up just yet--I still have flashbacks of when the 5DII was announced...sad times.
@ PP:
It was not cheaper only. It was just what was technical possible at a price that gives a DSLR to many shooters and made manufacturers sales. It was not a decision of "we want to do that, because it is great", but just: "We do it, because we will sell big numbers."
What do you think, why there is no new EFS lens done? Because that market is dead for Canon after they created FF a standard. The future is croping by the photographer not by technical restriction. There is no any longer. 1.3 in "pro" died because there is no advanadge any longer. Crop will be death in a couple of years (or month) in the consumer market, too.
Not likely. Why would they invent something that is already the 5D II? Canon makes small incremental changes, not something radically different. Last photo camera looks like a 7D, may the new 7D II?
Not likely. Why would they invent something that is already the 5D II? Canon makes small incremental changes, not something radically different. Last photo camera looks like a 7D, may the new 7D II?
Take another look at the photos. No pop-up flash and large pentaprism hump indicate a full frame sensor. Not a crop, which has been stated already.
bobbytan wrote:
I've only just joined the party but the camera in the last photo looks like it's got a 16:9 widescreen or is it just a compression of the photo?
I think it's 16:9 and that will become standard in next update cycle for at least the larger cameras like 7D and 5D. What would be nice is if the screen has a native resolution to show 720p playback 1:1
artsupreme wrote:
That turkey vulture looking thing he was shooting must have been posted up.
Looks like a helemeted guinea fowl.
The * and focus point buttons don't seem to have the zoom function anymore (both 7D and 5D2 do). It looks like the magnifying glass tool for zooming in and out has been moved to a control wheel and is selected by a button on the left of the LCD, but the joystick moves you around the image as before. This presumably would give quicker zoom in and out, compared to multiple button pushes on the old + and - buttons. "Speed chimping" anyone?
Pixel Perfect wrote:
I think it's 16:9 and that will become standard in next update cycle for at least the larger cameras like 7D and 5D. What would be nice is if the screen has a native resolution to show 720p playback 1:1
That would be fantastic.
I'm really exciting about the joystick added to the grip.No more overextending thumbs.
