deadwolfbones wrote:
Yes, just like most every m4/3 camera ever made, and most NEX cameras, and the Q, and Nikon's J1.
If you're saying that most of the competition does not have viewfinders, I take exception. A lot of the competing cameras have either integrated viewfinders or accessory viewfinders as an option and I think the trend is in that direction, especially for higher end cameras:
Panasonic m4/3 cameras either have an integratedl EVF or an accessory EVF option.
Olympus m4/3 has accessory EVFs as an option.
NEX 5N has accessory EVF and NEX 7 has integrated EVF.
Fuji X1Pro has hybrid viewfinder.
Nikon 1 V1 has EVF.
kwalsh wrote:
It really is the lens design that matters actually. CDAF requires very low mass focus groups to work with any speed at all compared to a PDAF system. That's how m43 is getting very fast CDAF, they've specifically designed the lenses for it. If you take a lens with a heavy focus group meant for PDAF and throw it on a CDAF system it is dog slow no matter what you do. CDAF requires difference measurements which means large momentum changes while PDAF does not. So unless you go out of your way to design a low mass focus group with a servo meant for difference measurements CDAF doesn't work well at all. This is why 4/3 lenses adapted to m43 have very poor AF performance and why Sony didn't even bother trying to do CDAF with their DSLR lenses - they designed an adapter that incorporated PDAF into it instead....Show more →
Got it. Thanks for the explanation. It only reinforces my decision to go with the MFT (OM-D).
kwalsh wrote:
P.S. The J1 system is a hybrid PDAF/CDAF system which is why DSLR lenses work well on it. Of course Pentax may be able to do the same thing!
DSLR-like size (compared to existing Pentax bodies which are quite compact).
Contrast-detect AF only, likely leading to poor tracking of moving subjects.
No viewfinder.
The improvements (focus peaking and such) could have been made to a DSLR just as well as to this contraption.
I could see losing the viewfinder and AF performance if there was some sort of trade-off, but as far as I can tell this camera is simply worse in several ways and better in none than a DSLR version...
Wow!, have to say that after seeing this thing that Pentax really dropped the ball and merely is playing the "me too" game of saying they have a mirrorless offering.
The size is hardly any smaller than the K5 and there is no VF, in addition to it being quite ugly.
Making matters worse, its apparently got the signature of some famous industrial designer whom I've never heard of on the thing just to taught users how some probably made millions of lending his trendy name to the thing. Maybe I just don't appreciate his "contemporary" art ?
K5 is a fantastic camera, but how many users really said to themselves, hmmm, if only I could get rid of the VF but otherwise keep the dimensions nearly the same, and if only they could make the camera come in yellow ?
millsart wrote:
K5 is a fantastic camera, but how many users really said to themselves, hmmm, if only I could get rid of the VF but otherwise keep the dimensions nearly the same, and if only they could make the camera come in yellow ?
Yeah, seems like they finally got some capable AF in the K-5, so let's throw that out together with the viewfinder, surely this plan can't go wrong.
millsart wrote:
K5 is a fantastic camera, but how many users really said to themselves, hmmm, if only I could get rid of the VF but otherwise keep the dimensions nearly the same, and if only they could make the camera come in yellow ?
thats exactly what I thought when I saw the size comparison...
Red button is surely video record, but wonder what the green button does on top ?
Kind of reminds me of something Fisher Price would make for kids with color coded buttons, all rounded edges and brightly colored rubberized grip wrapped around the camera
millsart wrote:
Red button is surely video record, but wonder what the green button does on top ?
Kind of reminds me of something Fisher Price would make for kids with color coded buttons, all rounded edges and brightly colored rubberized grip wrapped around the camera
1. The K-5 was already very very small for a dSLR and this is a good deal smaller.
2. It's got more natively compatible AF lenses than any other mirrorless system out there.
3. It's got the K-5's fantastic sensor at a much lower price (though not as low as the 5N).
4. It's got a new processing engine that may be a nice jump over what's found in the K-5/K-r.
5. It's got contrast AF, which will no doubt be more accurate and possibly quicker than what's in Pentax's dSLRs.
I'm willing to see what the early reviews say about performance before I write anything off.
As to the looks, I'm not hating them as much as most of you seem to be.