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p.2 #1 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


Yes, just like most every m4/3 camera ever made, and most NEX cameras, and the Q, and Nikon's J1.


Feb 01, 2012 at 01:26 PM
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p.2 #2 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


deadwolfbones wrote:
Yes, just like most every m4/3 camera ever made, and most NEX cameras, and the Q, and Nikon's J1.


If you're saying that most of the competition does not have viewfinders, I take exception. A lot of the competing cameras have either integrated viewfinders or accessory viewfinders as an option and I think the trend is in that direction, especially for higher end cameras:

Panasonic m4/3 cameras either have an integratedl EVF or an accessory EVF option.
Olympus m4/3 has accessory EVFs as an option.
NEX 5N has accessory EVF and NEX 7 has integrated EVF.
Fuji X1Pro has hybrid viewfinder.
Nikon 1 V1 has EVF.





Feb 01, 2012 at 01:51 PM
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p.2 #3 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


No one has said anything about accessories yet.


Feb 01, 2012 at 01:53 PM
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p.2 #4 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


kwalsh wrote:
It really is the lens design that matters actually. CDAF requires very low mass focus groups to work with any speed at all compared to a PDAF system. That's how m43 is getting very fast CDAF, they've specifically designed the lenses for it. If you take a lens with a heavy focus group meant for PDAF and throw it on a CDAF system it is dog slow no matter what you do. CDAF requires difference measurements which means large momentum changes while PDAF does not. So unless you go out of your way to design a low mass focus group
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Got it. Thanks for the explanation. It only reinforces my decision to go with the MFT (OM-D).

kwalsh wrote:
P.S. The J1 system is a hybrid PDAF/CDAF system which is why DSLR lenses work well on it. Of course Pentax may be able to do the same thing!


Kudos for Nikon. I wish Pentax would follow.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Feb 01, 2012 at 02:35 PM
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p.2 #5 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/k-01-announcement-today-price-749-for-body/

Today Pentax will announce the K-01. The price will be the following:

Body only: $749.

Body+40mm kit: $899.

Body+18-55mm +50-200mm: $999.




Feb 02, 2012 at 02:53 AM
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p.2 #6 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


Yeah, not feeling this one.

DSLR-like size (compared to existing Pentax bodies which are quite compact).

Contrast-detect AF only, likely leading to poor tracking of moving subjects.

No viewfinder.

The improvements (focus peaking and such) could have been made to a DSLR just as well as to this contraption.

I could see losing the viewfinder and AF performance if there was some sort of trade-off, but as far as I can tell this camera is simply worse in several ways and better in none than a DSLR version...



Feb 02, 2012 at 03:10 AM
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p.2 #7 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


The kit looks very cute but the lack of any VF bugs me.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Feb 02, 2012 at 06:20 AM
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p.2 #8 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/02/Pentax_K-01_announcement

Wow!, have to say that after seeing this thing that Pentax really dropped the ball and merely is playing the "me too" game of saying they have a mirrorless offering.

The size is hardly any smaller than the K5 and there is no VF, in addition to it being quite ugly.

Making matters worse, its apparently got the signature of some famous industrial designer whom I've never heard of on the thing just to taught users how some probably made millions of lending his trendy name to the thing. Maybe I just don't appreciate his "contemporary" art ?

K5 is a fantastic camera, but how many users really said to themselves, hmmm, if only I could get rid of the VF but otherwise keep the dimensions nearly the same, and if only they could make the camera come in yellow ?



Feb 02, 2012 at 07:30 AM
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p.2 #9 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


millsart wrote:
K5 is a fantastic camera, but how many users really said to themselves, hmmm, if only I could get rid of the VF but otherwise keep the dimensions nearly the same, and if only they could make the camera come in yellow ?


Yeah, seems like they finally got some capable AF in the K-5, so let's throw that out together with the viewfinder, surely this plan can't go wrong.



Feb 02, 2012 at 07:33 AM
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millsart wrote:
K5 is a fantastic camera, but how many users really said to themselves, hmmm, if only I could get rid of the VF but otherwise keep the dimensions nearly the same, and if only they could make the camera come in yellow ?


thats exactly what I thought when I saw the size comparison...

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Feb 02, 2012 at 07:37 AM
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p.2 #11 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


How could someone possibly consider this a progress? Don't they have some people who actually use cameras at Pentax?


Feb 02, 2012 at 07:47 AM
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p.2 #12 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


I could never understand what Pentax engineers are smokin'.


Feb 02, 2012 at 08:10 AM
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p.2 #13 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


Red button is surely video record, but wonder what the green button does on top ?

Kind of reminds me of something Fisher Price would make for kids with color coded buttons, all rounded edges and brightly colored rubberized grip wrapped around the camera



Feb 02, 2012 at 08:16 AM
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p.2 #14 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


The yellow one looks like it's made out of Lego!






Feb 02, 2012 at 08:25 AM
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p.2 #15 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


millsart wrote:
Red button is surely video record, but wonder what the green button does on top ?

Kind of reminds me of something Fisher Price would make for kids with color coded buttons, all rounded edges and brightly colored rubberized grip wrapped around the camera


The green button is the same as on other Pentax cameras. It's a great feature.
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-beginners-corner-q/60081-usage-green-button.html



Feb 02, 2012 at 08:33 AM
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p.2 #16 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


I think it's pretty much a failure as well. I wrote a blog post about it, which basically summarizes much of what you guys feel as well.


Feb 02, 2012 at 09:02 AM
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p.2 #17 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


Wow - I so don't get this. Same size as a DSLR but with none of the benefits...

Oh, favorite comment about the design from DPR:

"Does it shoot water when you press the shutter button?"

Ken



Feb 02, 2012 at 09:26 AM
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p.2 #18 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


Well, let's put it this way:

1. The K-5 was already very very small for a dSLR and this is a good deal smaller.
2. It's got more natively compatible AF lenses than any other mirrorless system out there.
3. It's got the K-5's fantastic sensor at a much lower price (though not as low as the 5N).
4. It's got a new processing engine that may be a nice jump over what's found in the K-5/K-r.
5. It's got contrast AF, which will no doubt be more accurate and possibly quicker than what's in Pentax's dSLRs.

I'm willing to see what the early reviews say about performance before I write anything off.

As to the looks, I'm not hating them as much as most of you seem to be.



Feb 02, 2012 at 09:36 AM
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p.2 #19 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


Spyro P. wrote:
thats exactly what I thought when I saw the size comparison...

http://1.s.img-dpreview.com/files/news/4846894009/side-by-side.jpg?v=1322

http://1.s.img-dpreview.com/files/news/4846894009/side-by-sideRr.jpg?v=1322


Those colors kinda remind me of those clown water squirt cameras from back in the day...



Feb 02, 2012 at 09:51 AM
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p.2 #20 · Pentax K-01 mirrorless coming soon?


No EVF = dead camera

And its seriously ugly, designer needed to make something fast before his next dose of LSD arrives?

If I want mirrorless without EVF, I can buy NX200 anytime.

Market really doesnt need this. And its like insult towards Pentax users. Colorful ugly shaped fist into da face.



Feb 02, 2012 at 09:55 AM
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