Offering pre-orders on Amazon only - and only Amazon - before camera and lenses are even officially announced seems almost like Fuji may be putting their toe in the water/ doing market research for pricing. The lenses seemed very reasonably priced yesterday but then we get a body only price even higher than what we expected to see lens + body. Really curious to hear what Fuji officially announces with regard to pricing. I'm starting to think a $1700 16MP APS body might be hard to swallow as now the "kit" becomes about $800 more than we previously expected.
Yeah, at that price I would probably throw in the towel and get the E-P3. I have to say though that $1300 for the body + 35/1.4 did seem pretty unbelievable. I doubt that was ever real. $1700-1800 for the pair sounds a lot more realistic, but $2300 is too much, IMO. This is still an APS-C camera after all.
carstenw wrote:
Yeah, at that price I would probably throw in the towel and get the E-P3. I have to say though that $1300 for the body + 35/1.4 did seem pretty unbelievable. I doubt that was ever real. $1700-1800 for the pair sounds a lot more realistic, but $2300 is too much, IMO. This is still an APS-C camera after all.
I agree. At $1300 for the kit I was all the way in.
At $1700-1800 I would probably be in.
At $2300 I would have to seriously think about options.
I have been SUPER excited about this camera ever since I had an X100. If the price is $1699 for the body, I'm gonna have to pass unless the iso performance, MF performance, AF performance and Image quality are all top notch. I guess only time will tell. I'm anxiously awaiting the announcement tomorrow.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
Offering pre-orders on Amazon only - and only Amazon - before camera and lenses are even officially announced seems almost like Fuji may be putting their toe in the water/ doing market research for pricing. The lenses seemed very reasonably priced yesterday but then we get a body only price even higher than what we expected to see lens + body. Really curious to hear what Fuji officially announces with regard to pricing.
I think you might be right. I would do the same thing if i were them. They (Fuji or their distributor) could also be capturing the segment of their customers who will pay a premium to be the first to get the product.
I would have to agree with some of the recent sentiment expressed about pricing. If the kit with the lens comes in at over $2K, they are going to get a lot of resistance. At the initially rumored (leaked?) price of around $1300 they will have a winner and they will sell boat loads of them (and they would easily be profitable at that price). At $1700,people will seriously consider alternatives. Lets see how smart Fuji is about pricing.
Zeiss has been wise to wait for better sensor anti-aliasing filters. It is only those that have diminished some of the zm line.
Now we read about no anti-aliasing filters on the new Fuji Pro-1 in addition to an intriguing random no-Bayer pixel array with a very fast processor. Fuji does thing big.
It's far too early but there appears to be a design benefit to zm lenses in the new the Fuji X Pro-1. Would Zeiss and Fuji collaborate for an improved Zeiss Ikon? Hmmm.
Adapters Galore
The nascent cottage industry in adapters fostered by the NEX and MFT lines will get yet another channel. They may be buying corporate jets before long.
The sea change in small CSC cameras is in full swing now that the baseline rangefinder has been seriously threatened by EVF's AND the flapping mirror has freed lens designers.
This has occurred amid a general post-2000 revolution in optical materials technology that is fully ramped up. The old ways are falling.
The 35mm mirror players probably won't last as we know them today. Their legacy lenses will survive but Sony/Panasonic and Fuji look ti inherit the field.
The order screens (lens and body) go to 404s now, not just the page with 'sold out.' I wouldn't take any of the pricing as gospel, particularly since nothing has been announced. More likely someone at Amazon screwed up and took unofficial pages live.
sector99 wrote:
It's far too early but there appears to be a design benefit to zm lenses in the new the Fuji X Pro-1. Would Zeiss and Fuji collaborate for an improved Zeiss Ikon? Hmmm.
Zeiss depends on Cosina-Voigtlander to build the ZI, and supposedly C-V has no interest in pursuing another digital RF, so Zeiss would have to work around any contracts they have with C-V.
I'll be on board for $1700 if it includes the 35mm lens.
Also, reading some of Steve Huff's articles about the X-P1, he brought up a rumor that Fuji may be releasing a larger than Full Frame mirrorless body at some point. At a reasonable price point, that'd be a world beater. Although I wonder what that'd be priced at? They could probably easily get away with $4,000 plus I think considering the complete lack of any products in such a segment.
Beni wrote:
That is a mindbendingly beautiful camera and with a fast normal, swoon...
Agreed, but I also agree with much of the sentiment here that the price of the body is quite steep. If it were FF $1700 would be reasonable, but not for APS-C.
miloz wrote:
Zeiss depends on Cosina-Voigtlander to build the ZI, and supposedly C-V has no interest in pursuing another digital RF, so Zeiss would have to work around any contracts they have with C-V.
Interestingly though, their is already a relationship between Fuji and Cosina with the Fuji/ Voigtlander Bessa III MF folders.
bluetsunami wrote:
I'll be on board for $1700 if it includes the 35mm lens.
Also, reading some of Steve Huff's articles about the X-P1, he brought up a rumor that Fuji may be releasing a larger than Full Frame mirrorless body at some point. At a reasonable price point, that'd be a world beater. Although I wonder what that'd be priced at? They could probably easily get away with $4,000 plus I think considering the complete lack of any products in such a segment.
I'm afraid such a camera would probably be closer to 8-10K!
michael49 wrote:
Agreed, but I also agree with much of the sentiment here that the price of the body is quite steep. If it were FF $1700 would be reasonable, but not for APS-C.
That's quite the wishful thinking, no manufacturer has ever released a FF digital for under $2500. The APS-C Canon 7D came out at $1700, body only. The $1000-2000 bracket will continue to be dominated by APS-C for at least a few more years, with cameras of different quality, style, and demand falling at all different places in that spectrum.
