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p.1 #1 · Luma Labs New Strap.


The original Luma Loop was discontinued due to possible patent infringement.

But....they do have a new one here:
http://luma-labs.com/products/cinch



Dec 25, 2011 at 11:50 AM
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p.1 #2 · Luma Labs New Strap.


Looks like a cool idea. I wish that it had the quick release attachments like the ones on the original Luma Loop. And a comment about the possible patent infringement -- I can't see why that other company was granted a patent seeing there was prior art going back to the 1800's.


Dec 25, 2011 at 12:29 PM
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p.1 #3 · Luma Labs New Strap.


i threw an order in for one to see if it works for me.


Dec 26, 2011 at 09:16 AM
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p.1 #4 · Luma Labs New Strap.


oh so true


Dec 26, 2011 at 12:25 PM
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p.1 #5 · Luma Labs New Strap.


I have the original Luma loop and it is a great strap. This new strap looks as though it does it have quick release.


Dec 26, 2011 at 12:33 PM
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p.1 #6 · Luma Labs New Strap.


no but easily adapted


Dec 26, 2011 at 12:59 PM
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p.1 #7 · Luma Labs New Strap.


I ordered one too. Although it doesn't have the quick releases, the cinch feature looks interesting enough for me to give it a try.


Dec 26, 2011 at 03:13 PM
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p.1 #8 · Luma Labs New Strap.


I ordered one too, seems promising.


Dec 27, 2011 at 12:24 AM
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p.1 #9 · Luma Labs New Strap.


So does this look like a solution to the concerns of the tripod mount not being made to hold the weight of the camera hanging upside down? (See Black Rapid threads.) In other words would this strap take the weight off the tripod screw? Thanks!


Dec 27, 2011 at 11:52 AM
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p.1 #10 · Luma Labs New Strap.


if you watch the video tou will see current and future options for connection


Dec 27, 2011 at 01:56 PM
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p.1 #11 · Luma Labs New Strap.


if you watch the video you will see current and future options for connection


Dec 27, 2011 at 01:57 PM
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p.1 #12 · Luma Labs New Strap.


mrbig wrote:
Looks like a cool idea. I wish that it had the quick release attachments like the ones on the original Luma Loop. And a comment about the possible patent infringement -- I can't see why that other company was granted a patent seeing there was prior art going back to the 1800's.

Yeah... I would have one if they would have been in stock at any point for the longer strap and the left handed version..... checked and see they went away. I don't understand why that "other" company was able to stop these guys but not the other dozen versions... like the sun sniper

Interesting.... might wait for some reviews first.... it's easy to hide details in a promo video.

I already run a strap on the left side and the hand strap on the right, so this looks like what I have already but with the added adjustment on the fly... interesting idea.



Dec 27, 2011 at 09:13 PM
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p.1 #13 · Luma Labs New Strap.


Looks really neat, although I'm not sure if I want to give up the tripod socket. I think I'm with robstein, I'll wait for a couple reviews.


Dec 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM
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p.1 #14 · Luma Labs New Strap.


looks cool I have owned the lumi in the the past and they are pretty nice. might want to try this one seems like one would have less swinging around than the original


Dec 28, 2011 at 11:12 AM
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p.1 #15 · Luma Labs New Strap.


just noticed one thing this strap connects to the body so this means your heavy lens will be dangling from the camera not like the old style that connected to the lens. I am not sure I would like this


Dec 28, 2011 at 11:20 AM
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p.1 #16 · Luma Labs New Strap.


An open letter to our customers, past and future
November 09, 2011

You’ve no doubt heard about patent battles in the world of software. Companies such as Nokia, Apple, and Microsoft use their incredibly large patent portfolios against each other in a multitude of ways. Often defensively, sometimes offensively. While there are many patents for truly inventive things, there are also a great number that are for things that already exist. Patents are a good idea that have been appropriated over the decades as a corporate tool for establishing limits to competition, no matter if the ideas described by those patents are truly inventive. Furthermore, this kind of use of patents isn’t just limited to the world of computing.

We’ve been aware for quite some time that one of our competitors applied for a patent relating to camera slings in 2007. Their patent application contained dozens of claims that centered around two primary concepts. One of these concepts—that of using a sliding connection to connect a camera to a sling—applied to our product line. We did our research, consulted our lawyers, and found more than enough prior art related to this concept.

That prior art starts with the US 1885 Carbine Sling, which clearly features an attachment that slides along a leather strap and connects to the rifle with a hook. It goes onto Leica’s 1938 TROOV wrist strap which connects to a tripod-based connection with a hook assembly that would slide freely if not for the way that the strap was constructed. Leica went on to develop a neck strap with sliding screw mounts that seems to have first appeared in their catalog in 1969. Many other makers—especially in the specialty Leica marketplace—developed these variants further. For example, thanks to the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine, we know that leicagoodies.com was selling their version of this concept in 2005. One look at the photo on that page of a product made of a keyring, hook, and webbing tells the story.

In short, the idea of a sliding camera sling isn’t an amazing new invention. It’s just a really good idea that’s been around for a while and which has been iteratively developed. Neither we nor our lawyers believed that the USPTO would grant a patent for the claims related to this concept. It was a surprise, then, when our competitor was granted a patent covering the concept on November 1st, 2011. To say that we’re disappointed that the USPTO couldn’t find the prior art around the idea is an understatement.

Our disappointment doesn’t matter much in the scheme of things, however. Our competitor now has a legal tool and we’re pretty sure that they desire to use it. This is, as they say, a problem. We and our counsel are more than confident that we can defend ourselves, and will do so vigorously if necessary. On the other hand, we’re a very small company that sells our products in limited volumes and mounting such a defense would consume the majority of our resources. After all, it took three years to rescind a patent about a method of using a swing. In other words, we have a Hobson’s choice on our hands. We could very well lose everything even if we won.

Therefore, we’re acting unilaterally and conceding the market by immediately discontinuing the Loop and LoopIt. Full stop. We apologize for the sudden nature of this decision and our implementation of it, but we feel like our options on this matter are limited.

This isn’t the end of Luma Labs LLC, however.

We’ve been working on an interesting new camera strap concept for the last six months. It’s nearing completion and we were planning on introducing it soon as a companion to our existing product line. Now, it will be our primary product. We’re planning to bring it to market in December, the month we’ve traditionally introduced new products. Furthermore, we’ll continue to support our existing customers. Our accessories, including the PodMount, will become available for sale again soon as we take this opportunity to retool and reinvent ourselves. And, we will continue to implement all of our current service and support policies.

It’s a bet the company moment. It’s not without risks. Big risks, especially for a company of our size. But looking at all the alternatives, we’ll take it.





Dec 28, 2011 at 12:22 PM
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p.1 #17 · Luma Labs New Strap.


i like it. no whining just rework and look foward.


Dec 28, 2011 at 01:56 PM
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p.1 #18 · Luma Labs New Strap.


sjms wrote:
i like it. no whining just rework and look foward.



I am thinking of getting one I think I can connect the bottom to the lens so this would relieve the weight of the lens to the camera mount



Dec 28, 2011 at 02:01 PM
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p.1 #19 · Luma Labs New Strap.


Some odd reason I can't open the video says to download the adobe flash which I have even more weird I viewed it the first time I opened this post


Dec 28, 2011 at 02:03 PM
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p.1 #20 · Luma Labs New Strap.


tanglefoot47 wrote:
I am thinking of getting one I think I can connect the bottom to the lens so this would relieve the weight of the lens to the camera mount


it is a 2 point mounting setup so it is a shared load between the base camera mount and the neckstrap mount. both together will hold a 70-200/2.8



Dec 28, 2011 at 02:14 PM
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